Bitshares DEX Telegram History

Fabian Schuh15:34:59 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

depends on your definitions of 'being rich'. If all you're looking for is money, then you're probably poor for good reasons.

Digital Lucife®15:37:25 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Again, defined myself as far from poor and happy where i am in original statement :)

nutela15:43:27 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

xeroc

depends on your definitions of 'being rich'. If all you're looking for is money, then you're probably poor for good reasons.

I'm rich in good friends 😂

Fabian Schuh15:55:10 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

nut3l4

I'm rich in good friends 😂

thats what i am talking about

Fabian Schuh15:55:29 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

that said, i am back to family to enjoy my richness :)

Digital Lucife®15:59:23 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

xeroc

that said, i am back to family to enjoy my richness :)

+++

kenCode16:16:22 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

xeroc

that said, i am back to family to enjoy my richness :)

exaaaactly ❤️

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RC16:24:34 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

nut3l4

I'm rich in good friends 😂

Now that the subject of riches has come up, why not read: *The Parable of the Rich Fool* Someone in the crowd said to him, "Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me." But he said to him, "Man, who made me a judge or arbitrator over you?" And he said to them, "Take care, and be on your guard against all covetousness, for one's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions." And he told them a parable, saying, "The land of a rich man produced plentifully, and he thought to himself, 'What shall I do, for I have nowhere to store my crops?' And he said, 'I will do this: I will tear down my barns and build larger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. And I will say to my soul, "Soul, you have ample goods laid up for many years; relax, eat, drink, be merry."' But God said to him, 'Fool! This night your soul is required of you, and the things you have prepared, whose will they be?' So is the one who lays up treasure for himself and is not rich toward God."” Luke 12:13-21

nutela16:39:41 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

No bible studies?

nutela16:40:05 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

xeroc

that said, i am back to family to enjoy my richness :)

The end. 👏

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Gilbert Jenkins18:27:12 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Hi people

Dani18:32:32 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

here is the official group？

Once Uponatime18:34:23 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

BiansDani131

here is the official group？

No "official" group. This is one bitshares related groups of many.

Gilbert Jenkins18:35:01 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

i'm beginner in trading, what stock exchange can you recommend for saling?

Dani18:35:24 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

thx I’m trying to find the official group of bitshares on telegram

fav18:35:40 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

This is probably the biggest group

Dani18:35:50 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Could you tell me how to get into that group?

fav18:36:10 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

mygilbert

i'm beginner in trading, what stock exchange can you recommend for saling?

Wat?

R18:36:44 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

mygilbert

i'm beginner in trading, what stock exchange can you recommend for saling?

Wrong channel.

Gilbert Jenkins18:36:56 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I decided to start trading but I do not know where and how to do it

Fuzzy18:37:09 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

BiansDani131

here is the official group？

this is the largest groups im aware of

Fuzzy18:37:21 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

favdesu

This is probably the biggest group

almost definitely.

Fuzzy18:37:34 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

mygilbert

i'm beginner in trading, what stock exchange can you recommend for saling?

oh no 😮

Dani18:37:52 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Thanks for answering!

Fuzzy18:37:52 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

mygilbert

I decided to start trading but I do not know where and how to do it

best to pretend trade at first then

Fuzzy18:38:05 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

see if you would have made money or lost based on the pretend sessions

Fuzzy18:38:07 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

;)

Gilbert Jenkins18:40:20 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

thx

Gilbert Jenkins18:41:04 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

btw, i seen new cashback service for blockchain

Gilbert Jenkins18:41:32 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Has anyone already tried this?

kenCode18:41:57 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

mygilbert

btw, i seen new cashback service for blockchain

ban hammer in 3, 2, ...

Gilbert Jenkins18:42:03 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

i can drop link here, if it necessary

Gilbert Jenkins18:42:11 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

kenCode

ban hammer in 3, 2, ...

???

Gilbert Jenkins18:42:37 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

i don't know, maybe who tried it)

Gilbert Jenkins18:45:26 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Here is a link that I received https://cryptofor.org/?promo=cashback4u

Gilbert Jenkins18:46:16 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

oh, i can't send links here

bench19:32:54 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

hehe guess why?

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Ayorinde Joseph20:34:28 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Hey guys

Ayorinde Joseph20:35:25 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I am new .... Please tell me how to run this trade

FarmerD20:57:15 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

xeroc

that said, i am back to family to enjoy my richness :)

+1 😊

Fuzzy21:01:54 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Happy easter everyone!

Signe21:05:44 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

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Signe21:05:58 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

@etrstudio instagram giveaway

da Lexx21:11:15 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Ayorinde Joseph

I am new .... Please tell me how to run this trade

Just buy as much as you can

FarmerD21:11:17 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

SirFuzzalot

I'm not a fan of rabbits, but that☝️ is cute 😍

FarmerD22:10:28 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

....is that?

funkit 🐝💋🍯22:14:29 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Have no idea. Look like a crossover dog/zebra/antelope. And a nice change from favs lama

FarmerD22:32:56 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

funkit

Have no idea. Look like a crossover dog/zebra/antelope. And a nice change from favs lama

🤣true and true🤣

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Lorddog23:02:01 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Go figer i know its closes relative is a graff

Lorddog23:03:07 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Okapi is what its called

FarmerD23:30:24 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]

lordOfTheDogs

Okapi is what its called

Oh cool. Never heard of it 👍

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Alex M - clockwork05:18:29 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

FarmerD

I'm not a fan of rabbits, but that☝️ is cute 😍

They make excellent stew

FarmerD05:27:46 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

They make excellent stew

Indeed ☝️😆

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Favour08:46:12 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Hello

Favour08:46:31 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

R10:00:36 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Any hackthedex updates?

Stefan10:09:43 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

cmmob

Any hackthedex updates?

https://www.bitshares.foundation/workers/2019-04-hackthedex

R10:11:21 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

sschiessl

https://www.bitshares.foundation/workers/2019-04-hackthedex This is current draft. If voted in, all submissions past the old worker will be processed/paid out. Plan is to put up tomorrow

"Several critical reports have been submitted and fixed through Hackthedex" no issue has been assigned a critical severity/reward though

Stefan10:11:59 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

cmmob

"Several critical reports have been submitted and fixed through Hackthedex" no issue has been assigned a critical severity/reward though

Ah, correct. The wording is not meant in owasp scale.

R10:22:57 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Could the new wp have a documented owasp rating to reward conversion calculation? The chart is difficult to interpret for anticipating rewards. Also could you tell me why 20180728A and 20180801A have a medium impact where as 20180918A has a high impact? The former are persistent stored xss compared to reflective xss (not as severe as stored).

Stefan11:03:11 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

cmmob

Several factors go into that calculation that would require full disclosure of reports, e.g. - quality of report - extent of attack vector provided, analysis and deduction of possible exploits - completeness of report (hidden attack vectors that were found in review) Disclosing that information would not be recommendable due to to increased security concerns, and as such the calculation of reward can't be transparently comprehensible, not to the public, and in cases not towards the reporter itself (at least not without NDA). I understand your need, do you have suggestions how the calculation can be improved without disclosing critical details?

Leonid The King11:03:41 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Keep calm, bro, so emotional :DD

Andrea Jenna11:04:00 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

How are you monitoring?

A D11:05:01 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

andreajen

How are you monitoring?

Tradeview/Taklimakan/Crypto Influensers

Leonid The King11:05:28 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Some people just have senseless brain :D

A D11:05:42 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

LOL

funkit 🐝💋🍯11:05:47 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Bot bonanza? 😉=

Andrea Jenna11:06:02 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Leonid The King

Some people just have senseless brain :D

ahahaha, nice

A D11:06:36 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Leonid The King

Some people just have senseless brain :D

Any luck? :)

bench11:13:13 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Any feedback from Blockfolio listing? https://feedback.blockfolio.com/exchange-requests/p/bitshares-dex

Mr. Shobi12:13:54 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Hi is something going on with bts? Price hit .07 now slowly going down when btc and other alts going up. Dan ok SEC Calm or just markets

Mr. Shobi12:14:07 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Ppl buy at .035 now dumping

FarmerD12:16:24 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

SLVGLD

Hi is something going on with bts? Price hit .07 now slowly going down when btc and other alts going up. Dan ok SEC Calm or just markets

Just mrkts dude 😆 please take trade talk to bts trade channel

FarmerD12:16:46 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

t.me/Bitshares_Traders

Mr. Shobi12:16:51 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Oh ok my bad

Mr. Shobi12:16:52 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Thx

Favour12:56:03 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

https://t.me/Ethereum_Hourly_Mining_Bot?start=ODhVeGk9RxaKZtB

Jeff13:11:04 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Why do I get this error when trying to permanently reject a proposal?

webpasco13:17:33 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Is Ethereum pivoting with their DeFi (Decentralize Finance)? It's what Bitshares is been doing since 2014.

Suppoman13:32:31 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

HelloAdmin

Suppoman13:32:46 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Where will I find my bit share address

funkit 🐝💋🍯13:33:11 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

In the upper right corner of the wallet

Suppoman13:33:57 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

funkit

In the upper right corner of the wallet

How will someone send BTS to my account??

funkit 🐝💋🍯13:34:21 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

By using that name

Suppoman13:34:30 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

What name??

Suppoman13:34:44 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Name I registered with??

funkit 🐝💋🍯13:34:56 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

The user name is the address

R14:21:57 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

sschiessl

Several factors go into that calculation that would require full disclosure of reports, e.g. - quality of report - extent of attack vector provided, analysis and deduction of possible exploits - completeness of report (hidden attack vectors that were found in review) Disclosing that information would not be recommendable due to security concerns, and as such the calculation of reward can't be transparently comprehensible, not to the public, and in cases not even towards the reporter itself (at least not without NDA). I understand your need, do you have suggestions how the calculation can be improved without disclosing critical or private details?

The report form limits feedback & tracking progress of submitted reports is a lengthy manual process spanning months rather than being coordinated within the website. I believe those two xss aught to have had high impact similar to 20180918A & am waiting on further correspondence on other reports. In terms of disclosure of details, will htd do so to vulnerability databases or should the researcher do this post reward? Looking forwards to the activation of the second hackthedex worker proposal on the Bitshares platform, cheers 👍

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FarmerD14:49:52 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

funkit

The user name is the address

😊 imho still one of coolist features of bitshares, ❤️

Stefan15:58:16 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

cmmob

Hack the DEX has a mailing list for vulnerabilities that you can sign up for notifications. After the grace period the researcher can notify or publicize in any way desired

Mathew16:39:29 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Hi guys - I can get us listed on cryptomate.co.uk for a very reasonable fee. I can stick in a worker but I havent used them. Have any of the UK guys here? Spread is quite big. Their traffic on alexa is all UK like you'd expect but I'm not sure where the ranking sits against other UK only crypto purchase sites! They've sold > £12M apparently

Mathew16:40:16 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I came across them a few weeks back through google as they come up when you search 'buy crypto uk'

Mathew16:41:22 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Good score on trustpilot: https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/cryptomate.co.uk

Mathew16:44:38 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I basically want it to be easier for Joe blogs to grab a small bag of BTS

Syed Tehseen Haider17:02:31 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

https://chat.whatsapp.com/DvIfutFfVpPKJDkaDoSIc2

kenCode17:03:15 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

matle85

Hi guys - I can get us listed on cryptomate.co.uk for a pretty reasonable fee. I can stick in a worker but I havent used them. Have any of the UK guys here? Spread is quite big. Their traffic on alexa is all UK like you'd expect but I'm not sure where the ranking sits against other UK only crypto purchase sites! They've sold > £12M apparently

they are listed on cmc (https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/cryptomate/) but I don't see them on bti.live which imo is a bad sign. do you think they fake their volume?

kenCode17:03:34 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

matle85

I basically want it to be easier for Joe blogs to grab a small bag of BTS

Telllers are the future, they compete on a local scale

Syed Tehseen Haider17:04:04 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

new AIRDROPS group for whatsapp. https://chat.whatsapp.com/DvIfutFfVpPKJDkaDoSIc2

Syed Tehseen Haider17:04:08 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

new AIRDROPS group for whatsapp. https://chat.whatsapp.com/DvIfutFfVpPKJDkaDoSIc2

Syed Tehseen Haider17:04:20 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

matle85

I basically want it to be easier for Joe blogs to grab a small bag of BTS

new AIRDROPS group for whatsapp. https://chat.whatsapp.com/DvIfutFfVpPKJDkaDoSIc2

Syed Tehseen Haider17:04:28 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

matle85

I basically want it to be easier for Joe blogs to grab a small bag of BTS

new AIRDROPS group for whatsapp. https://chat.whatsapp.com/DvIfutFfVpPKJDkaDoSIc2

Mathew17:06:04 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

kenCode

they are listed on cmc (https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/cryptomate/) but I don't see them on bti.live which imo is a bad sign. do you think they fake their volume?

I don't think their volume is fake...I think it would probably be higher if it was. @Cryptokong123 could you search "buy crypto UK" to see if they come up? Maybe I've skewed my Google search by having visited them but I think they are paying to be a top 3 result for that (implying some decent turnover)

Mathew17:14:01 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Maybe I'll buy some through them just to run the process and see how it is...

Mathew17:14:28 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

kenCode

Tellers are the future imo, they compete on a local scale

Agree re: tellers, the challenge I have is how you get fiat back in

kenCode17:15:39 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

matle85

Agree re: tellers, the challenge I have is how you get fiat back in - probably one for the Agorise channel more than here

yeah, or Hareem, Sapiens, John, etc. those guys are setting up bitshares/bitsy teller networks

kenCode17:15:50 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

best to dm them

Mathew17:16:00 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

kenCode

best to dm them

👍

Syed Tehseen Haider17:16:04 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

https://t.me/f1m1t

milan prijatelj17:16:07 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Hi, I made ETH withdrawal on ESCODEX exchange and I have not receive it. That was 10 hours ago. How to resolve this and what can be the cause?

Syed Tehseen Haider17:16:08 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

https://t.me/f1m1t

kenCode17:16:37 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

milan prijatelj

Hi, I made ETH withdrawal on ESCODEX exchange and I have not receive it. That was 10 hours ago. How to resolve this and what can be the cause?

@escodex group

milan prijatelj17:18:40 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

kenCode

@escodex group

I did, no response, just want to know from technical standpoint, Bitshares DEX in general if this is common issue, I never experinced this on any other exchanges

kenCode17:20:01 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

milan prijatelj

I did, no response, just want to know from technical standpoint, Bitshares DEX in general if this is common issue, I never experinced this on any other exchanges

they are a 3rd party company. bitshares is just software, not a company, and said software cannot hold your funds if you use your private key to remove it.

milan prijatelj17:21:12 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Not sure if i understand but thanks

Ayorinde Joseph17:24:50 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Who knows who buy bears or BSD.....Link me up with the person please

Zach Adam17:28:14 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Hello everyone

FarmerD17:39:17 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

matle85

I basically want it to be easier for Joe blogs to grab a small bag of BTS

☝😊 Nice. Talk to @rosswlkr for UK and worker info

funkit 🐝💋🍯17:44:18 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

milan prijatelj

I did, no response, just want to know from technical standpoint, Bitshares DEX in general if this is common issue, I never experinced this on any other exchanges

Escodex (and other gateways) have one more problem that you don’t find in other exchanges: they have two live blockchains that need to “talk” to each other. Other exchanges have one. So the complexity escalate. But I’m sure Emma and Charley will take care of your problem once they notice your problem. I see they are very active on discord. Might be a better forum. One thing is for sure: you won’t find them here.

Ross Walker17:44:58 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

FarmerD

☝😊 Nice. Talk to @rosswlkr for UK and worker info

There is a BitShares UK group, trying to get the link

Crypto Kong17:53:53 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

matle85

5th result

Brian Barton19:25:30 - 22 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I successfully created a BEOS account on bitshareswallet.beos.world. I successfully sent my BTS from bianance to my new BEOS wallet. Do I need to do anything else to recieve the rain shower? I read several days ago that you need to send 500 BTS to either get wallet or recieve rain shower not sure which. Has this changed? I can't see anything else I need to do.

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Digital Lucife®06:33:10 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

https://twitter.com/BitSharesOrg/status/1120575945004294144

Mathew06:50:10 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

murda_ra

https://twitter.com/BitSharesOrg/status/1120575945004294144

💪💪

Digital Lucife®06:50:31 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

im not stopping until there is minimum half milion followers

Digital Lucife®06:50:33 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Stefan06:50:50 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

murda_ra

https://twitter.com/BitSharesOrg/status/1120575945004294144

don't call it hard fork though. it's a protocol upgrade

Digital Lucife®06:51:09 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

cant edit, but i did said

Digital Lucife®06:51:13 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Hard-fork/Upgrade

Digital Lucife®06:51:15 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

to be clear

Stefan06:51:26 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

"Few hours until full #activation and hard-fork of #Consensus to new release"

Stefan06:51:29 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

see no upgrade

Stefan06:51:51 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

hard fork is easy, but not appropriate wording for what bitshares does, considering how the crypto community uses that word

funkit 🐝💋🍯06:53:47 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

You say fork, I say upgrade, we all say 'morning peeps!

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Zeto08:19:13 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I'm expecting a bts rally this week. You are not prepared.

Admin08:28:32 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Hell9

Admin08:28:34 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Hello

Dexy Bitshares09:13:32 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

is there an opensource script to run a bridge(gateway)? from btc to bitshares (for example)

Stefan09:15:57 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

dexy_cc

is there an opensource script to run a bridge(gateway)? from btc to bitshares (for example)

Never seen one so far

Digital Lucife®09:20:07 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

dexy_cc

is there an opensource script to run a bridge(gateway)? from btc to bitshares (for example)

that is much more than a "script" and costs dozen of thousands of dollars to be built properly

Digital Lucife®09:20:16 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

so no - not gonna find it open-source anywhere

Dexy Bitshares09:23:22 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

really 🤔 ok. thanks guys

Digital Lucife®09:24:42 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

you have cheaper solutions for few grans, but they are not reliable/stable never and requires a lot of "manual" interraction on stucks/misses, etc...

Feyzi Kurşun11:25:39 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

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Fabian Schuh14:02:51 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

**FYI: Worker proposal for integration of BTS with wirex:** https://www.bitshares.foundation/workers/2019-05-wirex-integration

Allforyou14:02:52 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

**FYI**: Worker proposal for integration of BTS with wirex: https://www.bitshares.foundation/workers/2019-05-wirex-integration

Fabian Schuh14:02:56 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Allforyou14:04:05 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I was so close...

Stefan14:05:54 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

SPAM!

shulthz14:08:47 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

56587318-e3933d00-6613-11e9-9238-965d4400da13.png (1470×559)

shulthz14:08:57 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

56587318-e3933d00-6613-11e9-9238-965d4400da13.png (1470×559)

shulthz14:10:07 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

what's wrong with the call limit?

Stefan14:10:44 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

shulthz

56587318-e3933d00-6613-11e9-9238-965d4400da13.png (1470×559)

Wasn't me 😳

LOLO LOLO14:11:29 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

What's wrong with the call price?

LOLO LOLO14:11:59 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

UI issue?

shulthz14:12:07 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

shulthz14:12:35 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

180808 has the same problem

Digital Lucife®14:13:05 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

confirmed its not UI issue

Digital Lucife®14:13:08 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

190423 same

LOLO LOLO14:13:14 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

werid....

shulthz14:14:15 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

core problem

R14:21:17 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

shulthz

core problem

What do you mean? Raise a relevant github issue?

Stefan14:23:10 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

An API changed that I guess no one had on the radar. The call price is no longer given but needs to be calculated

Tumor 🚀14:35:39 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

syslictl

OpenLedger DEX Gateways Re-Enabled Dear OpenLedger DEX users, We are glad to inform you that all the gateways that were disabled due to the BitShares hard fork have been re-enabled. https://dex.openledger.io/news/openledger-gateways-reenabled/

Bitshares hardfork?

Arlind14:43:17 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Amyone selling leads ?

Europa14:50:21 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

😀Congratulations to all users Bitshares to the Bitshares 3.0 protocol upgrade!

Jane Fon14:53:12 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Good evening everyone. What's new ? Mm

bench14:57:54 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

we have margin calls, which should not be margin called ?

fav14:58:58 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Arlind

Amyone selling leads ?

???

Jane Fon15:04:53 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

habibi7

we have margin calls, which should not be margin called ?

Wow. For how long now????

螃蟹

螃蟹15:29:45 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I want to know when MCR can be allowed to lower.

R15:39:12 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

syslictl

Grc still down after 1 year with no info. Fail

R15:40:03 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

finnbts

I want to know when MCR can be allowed to lower.

Just top up your debt instead?

螃蟹

螃蟹15:45:31 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

cmmob

Just top up your debt instead?

I am a businessman who provides exchange services for RMB with bitcny. The reduction of MCR is closely related to me.

Dino Devon16:32:47 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

what is new in bitshares3.0?

Crypto Kong16:37:32 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

wrong way round?

Stefan16:41:47 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Api has changed that UI doesn't know about it yet

Crypto Kong16:46:09 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

ah ok cool :)

Crypto Kong16:46:43 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

when can i get my free coins from the hard fork? 😜

Crypto Kong16:47:03 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

🤣🤪

Stefan16:54:25 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

when can i get my free coins from the hard fork? 😜

Never, I took them

Andrey Semenov16:54:56 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

sschiessl

Api has changed that UI doesn't know about it yet

seriously? core was released almost month ago. Today was released second release UI after that

Stefan16:56:54 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

akledirs

seriously? core was released almost month ago. Today was released second release UI after that

Main problem is that UI was not aware just until couple houra ago

fractalnode16:59:10 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

sschiessl

Main problem is that UI was not aware just until couple houra ago. No excuse for that, still the unfortunate fact

when does the team plan to fix it?

Stefan17:04:30 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

fractalnode

when does the team plan to fix it? It does not bother me but some people ask questions

@startail is working on it

fractalnode17:04:54 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

sschiessl

@startail is working on it

thanks

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Hello everyone

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Hello everyone. Good evening. What's happening here?

Daniel Hart21:53:28 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Hello people

Ryan R. Fox (BitShares Core)21:54:27 - 23 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Well, we did just have a Protocol Upgrade a few hours ago. You can learn more within our Release Notes: https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-core/releases

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What's happening?

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Robrigo | EOS Detroit02:59:38 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

gateway validation is broken

Robrigo | EOS Detroit02:59:52 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

1750 > 3

Robrigo | EOS Detroit03:00:58 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

guess I gotta sell him 3000

George (Bitspark)04:16:02 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

https warning on how.bitshares.works ? @murda_ra ?

Digital Lucife®04:16:31 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

George_Bitspark

https warning on how.bitshares.works ? @murda_ra ?

Not me on that one :)

George (Bitspark)04:16:41 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

oh my bad

Digital Lucife®04:16:43 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

only bitshares.org related domains :D

George (Bitspark)04:16:45 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

who do we yell at

Digital Lucife®04:17:03 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

believe Stefan or Fabian :D

George (Bitspark)04:17:13 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

George_Bitspark

https warning on how.bitshares.works ? @murda_ra ?

@sschiessl

funkit 🐝💋🍯04:28:03 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

@billgates 🤓 my go-to yell-at

funkit 🐝💋🍯04:30:52 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Btw, is there a valid reason for the documentation being separate?

George (Bitspark)04:32:33 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

also not sure if docs is updated, theres no reference in dev.bitshares.works about core protocol level things like `Bridges`

Stefan04:43:52 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

George_Bitspark

also not sure if docs is updated, theres no reference in dev.bitshares.works about core protocol level things like Bridges

Bridge is 3rd party build on top

funkit 🐝💋🍯04:47:15 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Should be a plug-in

George (Bitspark)04:52:05 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

sschiessl

Bridge is 3rd party build on top

yes however a bridge transaction is handled atomically on the blockchain afaik, and things like where/how do you get an exchange rate when using a bridge as its not an orderbook

George (Bitspark)04:52:09 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

would assume that'd be covered in docs

George (Bitspark)04:52:26 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

also UI used to have bridge as a separate option but now its disappeared?

Digital Lucife®04:52:44 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

George_Bitspark

yes however a bridge transaction is handled atomically on the blockchain afaik, and things like where/how do you get an exchange rate when using a bridge as its not an orderbook

are we talking bridge/gateway (deposits/withdrawals) ?

George (Bitspark)04:52:54 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

murda_ra

are we talking bridge/gateway (deposits/withdrawals) ?

theyre 2 different things

George (Bitspark)04:53:16 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

and no bridge was originally like a shapeshift on chain

George (Bitspark)04:53:20 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

and was defined as such in old docs

George (Bitspark)04:53:38 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

https://how.bitshares.works/en/master/user_guide/bridge_gateway.html?highlight=bridge

Alex M - clockwork04:55:28 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

blocktrades is a bridge

Alex M - clockwork04:55:32 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

it's not atomic

Alex M - clockwork04:55:45 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

"the only risk you experience when using a bridge is during the short time it takes to complete the transfer."

George (Bitspark)04:56:07 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

where does a birdges exchange rate come from?

Alex M - clockwork04:56:08 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

rates are set by bridge owner/operator

Alex M - clockwork04:56:14 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

wherever they want

George (Bitspark)04:56:17 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

rates are set by bridge owner/operator

how to 'set'?

Alex M - clockwork04:56:21 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

CEXs usually

George (Bitspark)04:56:37 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

how does UI get an exchange rate if there is no orderbook

Alex M - clockwork04:56:43 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Alex M - clockwork04:56:45 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

API call

Alex M - clockwork04:56:57 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

it asks the gateway

Alex M - clockwork04:57:04 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

not our chain's api call

George (Bitspark)04:57:06 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

API call

hence my question saying why its not covered in docs 😄

Alex M - clockwork04:57:13 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

an api call to the gateway operator

Alex M - clockwork04:57:20 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

nothing to do with core

Alex M - clockwork04:57:47 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

docs and API bein refactored currently

George (Bitspark)04:57:51 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

"the only risk you experience when using a bridge is during the short time it takes to complete the transfer."

if its exchanging between 2 bitshares assets thn how is there risk?

George (Bitspark)04:57:55 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

should be atomic?

George (Bitspark)04:58:20 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

if depositing btc yeh sure depends on some gateway

Alex M - clockwork04:58:27 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

bridges don't do that though

Alex M - clockwork04:59:21 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

docs and API bein refactored currently

https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/issues/2477 relevant

Esco Admin05:02:27 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

milan prijatelj

Hi, I made ETH withdrawal on ESCODEX exchange and I have not receive it. That was 10 hours ago. How to resolve this and what can be the cause?

generally it does not happen , still DM your detail

Esco Admin05:02:32 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

we will resolve quickly

George (Bitspark)05:04:02 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

bridges don't do that though

dont do what? exchange on chain bts assets? pretty sure blocktrades does this

George (Bitspark)05:05:03 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

so bridge has their own api endpoint in some structure (not defined anywhere?) bitshares-UI integrates that specific endpoint and adds the 'bridge' functionality (as was present previously when blockctrades was part of UI), users get rates from bridge which gets rates from bridges API which gets rates from third party (maybe gateway)

George (Bitspark)05:05:23 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

requires bitshares-UI to do custom integration with a third party bridge operator and their specific API endpoint correct?

Alex M - clockwork05:07:27 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

George_Bitspark

dont do what? exchange on chain bts assets? pretty sure blocktrades does this

not from bitshares-native to bitshares-native i dont think

Alex M - clockwork05:08:01 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

George_Bitspark

requires bitshares-UI to do custom integration with a third party bridge operator and their specific API endpoint correct?

if i'm following ...yes

Alex M - clockwork05:08:23 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

let me check if we actually get the rate for bridges

Alex M - clockwork05:10:21 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

yep

Alex M - clockwork05:10:33 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

you're right btw

Alex M - clockwork05:10:44 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

blocktrades offers e.g. bts-> bitCNY

Alex M - clockwork05:10:52 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

i guess that could be made atomic

Alex M - clockwork05:10:58 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

havent checked to see how it works

Alex M - clockwork05:11:06 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

still...rate is set by operator

George (Bitspark)05:11:13 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

so therefore this stuff should be somewhere in docs, on docs.bitshares.works when u search bridge nothing turns up 😄

Alex M - clockwork05:11:39 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

nought to do with core really

Alex M - clockwork05:11:43 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

it's UI related

Alex M - clockwork05:11:50 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

guess it should be there

Alex M - clockwork05:11:56 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

but being refactored anyway

Alex M - clockwork05:12:13 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

trying to standardise the API specifically so we dont have to do custom integration work witch each operator

George (Bitspark)05:12:43 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

trying to standardise the API specifically so we dont have to do custom integration work witch each operator

👍👍

Giacomo Bethereum05:29:23 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

@bitconsultant

Stefan05:41:44 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

George_Bitspark

if its exchanging between 2 bitshares assets then how is there risk?

Bridge simply takes your token, and some external server from them triggers another transfer of the equivalent amount of another token to your account. Not on-chain, completely centralized and for profit through the exchange rate

Stefan05:42:50 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I'd love a second bridge in reference besides blocktrades :)

Stefan05:43:04 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Open ledger had one iirc but discontinued

Alex M - clockwork05:44:42 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

a bridge could be made completely trustless via HTLC

Stefan05:45:01 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

a bridge could be made completely trustless via HTLC

Jap

Alex M - clockwork05:45:11 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

will be an interesting business case

Mathew05:45:21 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

a bridge could be made completely trustless via HTLC

That would be very exciting

Stefan05:46:10 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

will be an interesting business case

Quit dayjob already and do it 😄

Mathew05:46:24 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I'm still scratching my head a little on what exactly we'll be rolling out on HTLC...my understanding is most of the cool use cases (like that) need businesses to take the core functionality and build on it

Alex M - clockwork05:47:01 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

matle85

just the core functionality

Alex M - clockwork05:47:14 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

anything interesting will have to be built

Stefan05:47:28 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

matle85

You would still need a centralized business that listens on chain with an off chain order book, but the execution of asset swap will come with no risk for the user

Mathew05:48:44 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

To be fair the core functionality is really good / a cool addition. Hopefully we'll some businessess taking advantage of it.

Mathew05:52:38 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Bitfinex mainly got traction by listing / executing Bitstamp trades right? (I'm quoting @George_Bitspark there from his margin trading post). If we could do something similar connecting into bigger liquidity pools then that would be cool.

George (Bitspark)05:53:56 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

matle85

yep

George (Bitspark)05:54:34 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

matle85

Possible to connect to other DEXs maybe via HTLC, DEX to DEX would be good, but DEX to CEX would be centralised so eventually you might aswell just run a CEX

bench06:09:44 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

George_Bitspark

Possible to connect to other DEXs maybe via HTLC, DEX to DEX would be good, but DEX to CEX would be centralised so eventually you might aswell just run a CEX

Komodo has a Decentralized Order Matching (Market Maker 1.0) Version 2 is in development

Stefan06:10:31 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

habibi7

Komodo has a Decentralized Order Matching (Market Maker 1.0) Version 2 is in development

Via HTLC?

bench06:10:39 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

yes

Stefan06:11:22 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

habibi7

yes

Cool. Our operative businesses could make the markets now with BTS

tbone06:26:36 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

George_Bitspark

Possible to connect to other DEXs maybe via HTLC, DEX to DEX would be good, but DEX to CEX would be centralised so eventually you might aswell just run a CEX

HTLC swap always needs the liquidity to come from somewhere. if it comes from CEX, that doesn't make the swap centralized

George (Bitspark)06:28:23 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

tbone123

HTLC swap always needs the liquidity to come from somewhere/someone. if it comes from CEX, that doesn't make the swap centralized

In order for a CEX to deliver another cryptocurrency it requires someone to push it from a CEX wallet

George (Bitspark)06:28:41 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

DEX to DEX can be handled on your own wallets without requiring third party auth

George (Bitspark)06:28:58 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

afaik...

tbone06:29:55 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

George_Bitspark

In order for a CEX to deliver another cryptocurrency it requires someone to push it from a CEX wallet

regardless of where it comes from, whoever is facilitating it can trustlessly swap with the other party

Mathew06:30:13 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

If it is a HTLC swap with a CEX wallet then I guess it remains trustless...?

Mathew06:30:25 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

The order on the CEX it's filling is the trust part?

Mathew06:31:28 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

🤔

tbone06:31:49 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

bridge services get their liquidity largely from CEXs. yet i see no reason why such services couldn't use HTLC swaps (instead of their own servers) to provide the same exact service, except trustlessly

shulthz06:32:39 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

wallet to wallet?

tbone06:33:00 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

yes, wallet to wallet just as bridge services already operate

shulthz06:33:17 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

how about LTC?

tbone06:33:21 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

except without the internediat step of the service holding all the coins

tbone06:34:41 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

i assume LTC has HTLC, so someone could develop atomic swaps between BTS and LTC

George (Bitspark)06:37:25 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

tbone123

i assume LTC has HTLC, so someone could develop atomic swaps between BTS and LTC

the swap is atomic, the holding of asset is not, someone gotta run a BTS wallet and an LTC node

George (Bitspark)06:38:17 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

hence why HTLCs on bitshares is not trustless cross chain dex assets....gateways still got to manage their wallets...maybe they get hacked etc.

Fabian Schuh06:38:42 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

George_Bitspark

hence why HTLCs on bitshares is not trustless cross chain dex assets....gateways still got to manage their wallets...maybe they get hacked etc.

A trade BTS<->ETH **is** trustless

Fabian Schuh06:39:11 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

HTLC as a proecedure is trustless ... it's the assets inherint risk that stays ..

George (Bitspark)06:39:24 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

yeh..

tbone06:40:13 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

all that matters is that the swap is trustless

tbone06:41:05 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

sure, it won't work without SOMEONE supplying the liquidty, but there is no risk to the "user"

tbone06:41:24 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

that's the whole point

shulthz06:41:35 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

if we need to run a ltc node?

tbone06:43:15 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

i doubt it

shulthz06:43:19 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

or a BTC node?

shulthz06:44:09 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

🤔

tbone06:44:36 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

each of the 2 parties needs wallets for the chains they are swapping coins from. so if swapping ETH for BTS, both parties need wallets for those chains

tbone06:44:56 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

both parties need a send and receive wallet

tbone06:45:18 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

so one sends ETH and receives BTS, and the other sends BTS and receives ETH

tbone06:46:32 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

there is no risk, regardless of whether one party needs to source coins from a CEX

shulthz06:50:07 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

how about the wallet like imtoken?

tbone06:50:49 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

have no idea about that token

tbone06:51:11 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

or that wallet

shulthz06:51:47 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

or we need to build a wallet can

shulthz06:51:51 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Multiple Chain Wallet

Mathew06:53:22 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

shulthz

Multiple Chain Wallet

I've pondered a few times whether we could embed / link BTC, ETH etc wallets into wallet.bitshares.org, it's on my list of things to read up on and understand better

tbone06:53:57 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

yes, i've thought about that for the last couple years

tbone06:55:06 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

seems logical. although ETH—>BTC for example really has nothing to do with Bitshares

tbone06:56:24 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

although if we could someone how make a UI wher the users have to pay the fees in BTS, regardless of which tokens they are swappinmg, maybe it would make sense in a Bitshares wallet

shulthz06:56:32 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

magicwallet is the Multiple Chain Wallet

shulthz06:58:04 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

🤔

tbone06:58:06 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

i think the key will be to somehow use the DEX order books to provide liquidity to the atomic swap service

tbone06:59:11 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

not sure if it can be done seamlessly or not

shulthz07:00:50 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

bts maybe like a gateway

shulthz07:01:58 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

BTS.BTC

tbone07:02:06 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

not sure what you mean

shulthz07:02:43 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

BTS

shulthz07:05:24 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

to make the bts as the Multiple Chain Wallet, every BTC send to the BTS Multiple chain wallet will be bts.BTC?

tbone07:09:39 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

to me, bts.BTC implies it's a representation of BTC on the Bitshares blockshain. kind of like open.BTC. but for ACCS (atomic CROSS CHAIN swap) the whole point is that the user has control over the NATIVE wallets of the chains on both sides of the swap

Mathew07:10:09 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

shulthz

to make the bts as the Multiple Chain Wallet, every BTC send to the BTS Multiple chain wallet will be bts.BTC?

You could do this by letting bitBTC be backed by BTC with. 1:1 ratio?

Mathew07:10:31 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Still needs some thought on how that wallet backing the 1:1 would be set up and who holds the key etc.

Mathew07:11:01 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Anyway, I seriously have to get to work and stop telegraming / reading about HTLC 😅 😅

shulthz07:11:31 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

😅

Crypto Kong07:11:50 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

matle85

Anyway, I seriously have to get to work and stop telegraming / reading about HTLC 😅 😅

Fuck work, bitshares is life.

Alex M - clockwork07:13:10 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

Fuck work, bitshares is life.

This

tbone07:13:46 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

matle85

Still needs some thought on how that wallet backing the 1:1 would be set up and who holds the key etc.

yes, i was talking about something like this in the HTLC Telegram chat. i was thinking the real BTC could be held in an automated multisig with the witnesses having the keys or something. but in this case i don't see why to use bitBTC, just use multsig.BTC

tbone07:14:21 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

of course, i have no idea how doable any of this really is!

Mathew07:16:38 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

Fuck work, bitshares is life.

Is this available in a t-shirt I can wear to the office?

Crypto Kong07:16:56 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

matle85

Is this available in a t-shirt I can wear to the office?

Speak to @litepresence

Mathew07:16:58 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Ok I'm out now, don't tag me 🙈🙈🙈

Crypto Kong07:17:10 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

@matle85

Crypto Kong07:17:31 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

@matle85

Crypto Kong07:17:38 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

@matle85

Alex M - clockwork07:20:51 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

You're not doing it right

Alex M - clockwork07:20:55 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Watch

Alex M - clockwork07:21:21 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

@matle85 OMG! WHAT A PUMP!

Mathew07:39:54 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

@matle85 OMG! WHAT A PUMP!

Haha f*ck you guys I'm uninstalling telegram

Fabian Schuh07:44:12 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Please help spread awareness a little and consider upvoting: https://steemit.com/bitshares/@bitshares.fdn/spokesperson-report-new-opportunity-for-bts

Crypto Kong07:45:21 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

matle85

Haha f*ck you guys I'm uninstalling telegram

Mission accomplished

Alex M - clockwork07:57:35 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

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Crypto Kong08:26:43 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

https://twitter.com/BryceWeiner/status/1120564458437402624?s=19

Alex M - clockwork10:08:59 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I am tempted to remove my votes for MCR reduction

Alex M - clockwork10:09:07 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

to all those screaming for lower MCR

Alex M - clockwork10:09:14 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

this is why you cant have nice things

Alex M - clockwork10:10:38 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

bar a quick pump to 0.073 when bitusd revived..., BTS has been around the 0.06 mark for the last couple of weeks

Alex M - clockwork10:11:09 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

who the fuck margins to a call price of 0.0624 in this market?

Alex M - clockwork10:11:40 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

and then they blame witnesses , greedy bastards

Fabian Schuh10:12:22 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

confirmed ... greed everywhere

Alex M - clockwork10:12:46 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

58 million BTS sell pressure

Alex M - clockwork10:12:50 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

completely unwarranted

Alex M - clockwork10:12:56 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

not like we had some kind of huge dump

Fabian Schuh10:13:15 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

But .. but .. I was told there's going to be a huge pump ..

Alex M - clockwork10:13:15 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

simply people setting their margin call price to teh fucking resistance level

Alex M - clockwork10:13:27 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

what teh fuck are you thinking?

R10:18:34 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

what teh fuck are you thinking?

Time to label bad debt holders in client?

Alex M - clockwork10:18:47 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

cmmob

Time to label bad debt holders in client?

wall of shame

Allforyou10:19:40 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

A lot of these accounts are marginal bots, I saw these accounts in margin many months ago...

R10:19:51 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Idd, similar to scam warnings there could be a "bad credit rating" warning in transfer screens or even profiles if they are near to causing gs (or did cause it)

Alex M - clockwork10:20:01 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

allfory0u

A lot of these accounts are marginal bots, I saw these accounts in margin many months ago...

yes...but their params are still set by individuals

R10:20:49 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Minimizing the size of gs to only those below mcr would be great

Alex M - clockwork10:21:30 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

cmmob

Minimizing the size of gs to only those below mcr would be great

did you see my suggestion in Dev channel?

Alex M - clockwork10:21:35 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

with the insurance fund?

R10:22:08 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

No? But Im not sure about socialising loss

Alex M - clockwork10:22:38 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

quick recap:

Alex M - clockwork10:22:57 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

we keep MSSR high-ish for the shorter/bad-debt holder

Alex M - clockwork10:23:08 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

but lower it as far as the market is concerned

Alex M - clockwork10:23:44 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

e.g. bad-debt holder pays 10% more BTS on margin call

Alex M - clockwork10:24:00 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

but margin is placed on the market at 5% more

Alex M - clockwork10:24:11 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

the other 5% goes to an insurance fund

Alex M - clockwork10:24:25 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

sell pressure is reduced, bad debt holder still penalized

Alex M - clockwork10:24:46 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

if bad debt holder reaches a critically low CR near GS

R10:24:53 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Fee modifier if bad-debt user flag activated? Lose LTM benefits

Alex M - clockwork10:25:14 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

he is liquidated, position is transferred to a committee-owned account and recollateralised from the insurance fund

R10:25:38 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Most of the norns have activated so those not interested in gs risk can check it out now 👍

Alex M - clockwork10:25:52 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

that's the very rough high-level description of it

Dima BLCKCHND10:25:56 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

what teh fuck are you thinking?

To make money on some one "good intentions"

R10:26:09 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

that's the very rough high-level description of it

Sounds good

Andrey Semenov10:29:24 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

publishers of feed price, you will rise up MSSR for USD and CNY if minimal Collateral Ratio will be breakdown?

Vishal Jha10:29:50 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Why cant i message in this group?

Andrey Semenov10:31:39 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

mssr = 1.02 similar not enough - CR on CNY 1.652 and this rise up risk blackswan

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Alex Pu10:37:21 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

I am tempted to remove my votes for MCR reduction

it was obvious from the start. Have to wait a little longer and the same thoughts will be about 2% of the incentive for buying out other people's debts, 2% is not enough incentive to buy out someone debt. Just have to wait for the understanding to come ...

shulthz10:37:39 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

most of you didn't understand why the margin call not be eaten

Dima BLCKCHND10:38:22 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

serdrdoor

Andrey Semenov10:38:35 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

the other 5% goes to an insurance fund

insurance fund... again money in somebody hands... it's corruption (potencially)

Alex Pu10:38:37 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

akledirs

mssr = 1.02 similar not enough - CR on CNY 1.652 and this rise up risk blackswan

The market is a cruel thing, and it will adjust, do not worry

shulthz10:38:45 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

MSSR=200%, the margin call still no one to eate it

Alex M - clockwork10:41:22 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

akledirs

insurance fund... again Money and Votes in somebody hands... it's corruption (potencially)

not if automated/rule driven

Andrey Semenov10:45:39 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

not if automated/rule driven

This fund mustn't be in hands of committe too. Else committe can votes for themselves - this bad. If fund will be meet such requirements - maybe-maybe)

shulthz10:45:59 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

the margin call squeezed the market, the market buyer will stay away quickly from the margin call price

Alex M - clockwork10:46:57 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

akledirs

This fund mustn't be in hands of committe too. Else committe can votes for themselves - this bad. If fund will be meet such requirements - maybe-maybe)

again...talking automated system...only mention committee cause they're asset owners

shulthz10:47:36 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

this fund can handle the GS with the TCR

Mathew10:47:37 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

the other 5% goes to an insurance fund

Great idea and completely support

R10:48:42 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

akledirs

This fund mustn't be in hands of committe too. Else committe can votes for themselves - this bad. If fund will be meet such requirements - maybe-maybe)

They own the bitassets like cny, so why not?

Alex M - clockwork10:49:35 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

also , committee has handled enough funds in the past and never voted despite having the ability

shulthz10:51:50 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

i think we can learn something from the bitmex

Alex Pu10:52:40 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

e.g. bad-debt holder pays 10% more BTS on margin call

If allow to borrow money uncontrollably, without interest - a default will happen sooner or later, if you do not have markets to sell excess money. BitAssets loans with a minimum premium of 2% are not enough. When the premium was 10c - the BitShares quietly dropped from 45 cents to 3.6 (2017) and there were no Swans. Is very useful to learn and remember the story. But at the end of last year, after a long protraction, over the 10c BitShares just dropped to 5c and the Black Swan happened on USD. Strange misunderstanding, right? It is necessary to find what the differences are, why it was not before and now it has happened, because the experiments are carried out by incompetent people who are not able to simulate the situation or are acting specifically in their own interests misleading the community

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Alex M - clockwork10:57:15 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

shulthz

i think we can learn something from the bitmex

their perpetual markets?

Nicole10:57:44 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

It was a good and smart move today. Bitcoin is here to stay

shulthz10:57:54 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

yes, some need we to learn

Alex M - clockwork10:58:17 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

the difficult part is paying yield

shulthz10:58:20 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

serdrdoor

you still didn't understand why

shulthz10:59:27 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

the difficult part is paying yield

yes

Alex Pu11:01:21 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

shulthz

you still didn't understand why

I really believe in Bitshares and inspired by her ideas. And I do not care about its price. And I have long understood what was happening. The market will put everything in its place, do not piss against the wind

shulthz11:01:48 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

serdrdoor

the bitusd had GS in the 2017 if bitcrab didn't hold the bitusd debt, the MSSR still is 110%

shulthz11:03:51 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

if didn't have enough buyer, MSSR=300%, still can't stop the GS

Nicole11:04:36 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Buyers are out there

shulthz11:05:43 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

respect the market is very import

shulthz11:06:34 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

respect the market is very important

shulthz11:07:28 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

We didn't need the larger MSSR to squeeze the market

shulthz11:09:05 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

We can learn from the bitmex to see they how to settle the margin handle the margin call

Dima BLCKCHND11:09:10 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

shulthz

if didn't have enough buyer, MSSR=300%, still can't stop the GS

it hard to have enough buyer when you change the rules everytime

Andrey Semenov11:09:49 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

blockchained

it hard to have enough buyers, when you change the rules everytime

👍

Dima BLCKCHND11:11:06 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

business need STABILITY of rules, money will wait when we fed anouth with experiments

shulthz11:11:18 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

blockchained

it hard to have enough buyers, when you change the rules everytime

YES, but the bad rules will turn the buyer out, MSSR=110% is the bad rule

Dima BLCKCHND11:12:17 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

shulthz

YES, but the bad rules will turn the buyer out, MSSR=110% is the bad rule

it works for years

Andrey Semenov11:12:48 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

shulthz

YES, but the bad rules will turn the buyer out, MSSR=110% is the bad rule

Some bitassets live only thanks this "bad rule"

Dima BLCKCHND11:12:59 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

akledirs

Some bitassets live only thanks this "bad rule"

Dima BLCKCHND11:13:13 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

no crab involvment thanks "god"

shulthz11:13:58 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I think you will hardly to understand why MSSR=110% is the bad rule, even if it works for years

shulthz11:14:29 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

akledirs

Some bitassets live only thanks this "bad rule"

most of the bitasset has GS

Dima BLCKCHND11:14:42 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

shulthz

I think you will hardly to understand why MSSR=110% is the bad rule, even if it works for years

but I easy can see where leeds "understanding" of experemintators to the GS

Crypto Kong11:15:22 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

cmmob

Idd, similar to scam warnings there could be a "bad credit rating" warning in transfer screens or even profiles if they are near to causing gs (or did cause it)

I suggested a credit rating system before, it should determin an accounts minimum allowed collateral ratio

shulthz11:15:23 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

why? didn't you think about it?

Alexey "Безликий" Petrov11:15:29 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

shulthz

YES, but the bad rules will turn the buyer out, MSSR=110% is the bad rule

0_о

Crypto Kong11:15:45 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Those getting called all the time should have their minimum ratio raised

Dima BLCKCHND11:16:05 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

shulthz

most of the bitasset has GS

ruble where we obay crab initiative survive through all drama

Dima BLCKCHND11:17:28 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

easy as that

Fabian Schuh11:17:31 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

Those getting called all the time should have their minimum ratio raised

this ..

Andrey Semenov11:17:43 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

bitEUR also was with good CR. 110% rulez)

R11:17:43 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

blockchained

business need STABILITY of rules, money will wait when we fed anouth with experiments

This is true, I'd prefer wacky experiments to be tested on privatized mpa first

Fabian Schuh11:17:47 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

blockchained

ruble where we do not obey crab initiative survived through all drama

Quick reminder: watch your language, please

shulthz11:18:20 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

no, this is not the cause, with or without the BSIP42, the bitusd still will be GS

Fabian Schuh11:18:22 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

cmmob

This is true, I'd prefer wacky experiments to be tested on privatized mpa first

There is a reason for these experiments ... we had "stability" during the first 2-3 years of bitassets ...

Fabian Schuh11:18:25 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

no one cared ..

Fabian Schuh11:18:27 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

no one used it ..

Dima BLCKCHND11:18:36 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

xeroc

Quick reminder: watch your language, please

sorry englush is not my native language but am I wrong and it is not a crab iniative?

Fabian Schuh11:18:57 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

the term "crab" is kind of misleading considering there is a community called bitcrab

Dima BLCKCHND11:19:40 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

xeroc

the term "crab" is kind of misleading considering there is a community called bitcrab

I meant bitcrab, he called himself like this in a forum and he was initator

Fabian Schuh11:22:08 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Well, then .. excuse me.

shulthz11:25:08 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

when the MSSR=110%, we will have almost 15% deposit fees

Stan Larimer12:38:47 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

https://whaleshares.io/@stanlarimer/bitshares-eos-on-the-radiance-of-the-seas

Stan Larimer12:46:45 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Someone want to explain why my little post on testing BitShares EOS at sea - something incredibly significant to BitShares, keeps getting deleted?

Stan Larimer12:46:47 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

https://whaleshares.io/@stanlarimer/bitshares-eos-on-the-radiance-of-the-seas

Stan Larimer12:46:57 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

https://whaleshares.io/@stanlarimer/bitshares-eos-on-the-radiance-of-the-seas

Stan Larimer12:48:01 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

https://whaleshares.io/@stanlarimer/bitshares-eos-on-the-radiance-of-the-seas

Stan Larimer12:48:55 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

You can find it on my blog at steemit/@stan if you want to bypass the rank censorship on this channel

Tumor 🚀12:49:58 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

😩😩😩

Stan Larimer12:50:00 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

You can find it on my blog on steemit @stan if you want to bypass the outrageous censorship of this channel.

Fabian Schuh12:50:11 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

It's a Telegram bot called "Pimp Slapper"

Fabian Schuh12:50:22 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

don't know what conditions must be met ..

Fabian Schuh12:50:30 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

i suspect that you must not post links

Stan Larimer12:50:35 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Yes, who sic'ed it on my posts.

R12:50:41 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

It's on all

George (Bitspark)12:50:42 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

Someone want to explain why my little post on testing BitShares EOS at sea - something incredibly significant to BitShares, keeps getting deleted?

A post about a cruise for a non bitshares project is off topic

Stan Larimer12:50:45 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I've been posting links, now I cant.

George (Bitspark)12:51:02 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Welcome to post in the relevant chat group

Fabian Schuh12:51:06 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Google: "Telegram Pimp Slapper"

Stan Larimer12:51:11 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Hell it isn't. It's about testing a bitshares eos node in international water.

George (Bitspark)12:51:24 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

That’s not bitshares

Fabian Schuh12:51:35 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

You seem to still not understand ... Pimp Slapper is about protecting spam .. and it is fully automated ..

Stan Larimer12:51:45 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

It's outrageous that you would ban that and not all the other topics happening here.

R12:52:06 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Its a bot not a human, complain to the repo or meet the min reqs for posting links

Fabian Schuh12:52:10 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Everyone that is not longer than 30 days in this channel has this limitation ..

Stan Larimer12:52:20 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I don't

Stan Larimer12:52:56 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

And whoever set it back to off is doing this community a disservice.

R12:53:01 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Then wait until you do? The bot can't be turned off because of how bad telegram spam bots are.

R12:53:28 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Non stop pump groups and advertisements, it's bonkers

Stan Larimer12:53:36 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

No, i had that ability for weeks prior to this. Someone turned it off on me.

George (Bitspark)12:53:36 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

lets keep this chat related to bitshares

Once Uponatime12:54:00 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

George_Bitspark

A post about a cruise for a non bitshares project is off topic

It is hardly a non bitshares project. And let me see if I can post the link (I hve been in this channel forever): https://steemit.com/bitshares/@stan/beos-aboard-the-radiance-of-the-seas

Stan Larimer12:54:06 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

This IS related to bitshares. Over 10 % of the bitshares community is participating.

R12:54:11 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Probably the bot. It manages durations itself.

Once Uponatime12:54:40 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

George_Bitspark

lets keep this chat related to bitshares

This isall about bitshares.

George (Bitspark)12:54:40 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Off topic posts about projects should be directed to their own channels

Once Uponatime12:55:17 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

My link to stan's post was also deleted. and I have been in this channel forever.

George (Bitspark)12:56:10 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Yep i deleted offtopic posts. Just like posts related to other projects like OL, Rudex, bitspark, agorise etc should all directed to their own channels

Stan Larimer12:56:10 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

This is a huge win for BitShares. Everybody here will want to know about bitshares assets being able to run in smart contracts in international waters.

Stan Larimer12:56:43 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Yes, George, you are doing the community a disservice. Criminal really.

George (Bitspark)12:57:03 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

ok sure 👍

Stan Larimer12:58:13 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

There have been hundreds of posts off topic on every conceivable topic. Why pick on BitShares EOS?

Stan Larimer13:00:04 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

The first milestone tested is operating an enterprise node to issue transactions every five minutes onto the beos network. You can see them here. [https://explore.beos.world/accounts/cruise](https://explore.beos.world/accounts/cruise) Meanwhile, the node collects GPS coordinates from an attached antenna which will ultimately be used to log the coordinates where each transaction takes place. Here's their path to Tahiti from New Zealand over the past 36 hours.

Stan Larimer13:00:31 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

The first milestone tested is operating an enterprise node to issue transactions every five minutes onto the beos network. Meanwhile, the node collects GPS coordinates from an attached antenna which will ultimately be used to log the coordinates where each transaction takes place. Here's their path to Tahiti from New Zealand over the past 36 hours.

Fabian Schuh13:00:59 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

See ... no link, no deletion .. oh wonders

Stan Larimer13:01:21 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Yeah, but I've been posting links for weeks.

fav13:01:54 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

No actually it's fav restricting Mr Larimer from linking in this group. This is the last warning.

Stan Larimer13:02:20 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I thought so.

Stan Larimer13:02:35 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Bad fav, bad bad fav.

fav13:02:47 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Feel free to leave.

Fabian Schuh13:02:57 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

I thought so.

Maybe you should appologize to George then

Stan Larimer13:03:30 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Linking to my articles is the least intrusive way to get my content out, far better than long arguments about censorship.

Stan Larimer13:03:41 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

And George admitted to deleting my posts.

Once Uponatime13:03:52 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

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Once Uponatime13:04:14 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Once Uponatime13:04:31 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

link didn'tget deleted.

Fabian Schuh13:05:05 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Complain with Pimp Slapper

Stan Larimer13:05:42 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

It's not Pimp Slapper, its fav censoring my totallly reasonable and infrequent content.

Stan Larimer13:06:12 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Which he doesn't do for many other content provides.

Fabian Schuh13:06:34 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Who cares about facts ... let's call the trolls

Stan Larimer13:06:53 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Blocking people from hearing about new features we are giving to BitShares is ourtrageous.

Stan Larimer13:23:13 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I thought it was particularly interesting the GPS ship route plotted on Google Maps showing the node in international waters. You'll have to check it out on my steemit or whaleshares blog.

Stan Larimer13:24:07 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

This will soon be available for smart contracts using all sorts of leading bitshares assets - including bitassets and quint.

Stan Larimer13:24:55 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

These smart contracts will only execute on nodes in international waters.

Stan Larimer13:25:14 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

(and eventually international space)

Alex M - clockwork13:25:57 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

and what is teh advantage of that?

Stan Larimer13:26:29 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

If you haven't got your free beos yet, there's still 90% out there to give away

Stan Larimer13:27:52 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

and what is teh advantage of that?

Anyone who want's to do a transaction in a specified jurisdiction can soon do so. I'll leave what kinds of transactions to your fertile imaginations.

Alex M - clockwork13:28:09 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

so why not geodistributed nodes?

Alex M - clockwork13:28:18 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

would be cheaper/easier

Alex M - clockwork13:28:33 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

as is the default in dpos pretty much

Stan Larimer13:30:10 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

But companies wanting certainty that they are legal will be able to guarantee that as opposed to having it occur in, say New York City and come under its nefarious bitLicense.

Alex M - clockwork13:30:19 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

sure

Stan Larimer13:30:45 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Working together with bitshares we have the best of both options.

Alex M - clockwork13:30:46 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

i get the advantage of having a specific node bundle the tx in a block

Alex M - clockwork13:30:54 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

one that is in a favourable jurisdiction

Alex M - clockwork13:31:19 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

not sure what the advantage of space/cruise ships is compared to simply voting in witnesses in favourable jurisdtictions

Fabian Schuh13:31:26 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Can we define "favourable juristiction" for a moment?

Fabian Schuh13:31:43 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Have we seen any cases where a block producer has been sued for ... erm ... bundling tansactions into a block?

Stan Larimer13:32:03 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

There is no more favorable jurisdiction than international waters or international space.

Alex M - clockwork13:32:10 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

why?

Fabian Schuh13:32:21 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

FWIW, a bitshares node in liberland would serve that too, no?

Alex M - clockwork13:32:32 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

any activity on a manmade vessel in open seas or space

Fabian Schuh13:32:36 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

There is no more favorable jurisdiction than international waters or international space.

Please elaborate, what makes you think so?

Alex M - clockwork13:32:43 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

(you are right....the law is quite similar for both)

Alex M - clockwork13:32:57 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

is governed by the jurisdiction of the vessel's state of registry

Alex M - clockwork13:32:59 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

e.g.

Stan Larimer13:33:05 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Sure, but how do you select that lieberland node for your transaction?

Alex M - clockwork13:33:06 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

radiance of teh seas is under the bahamas flag

Fabian Schuh13:33:07 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Then, there is also always the option of *hiding* the true geolocation via proxies and VPNs

Fabian Schuh13:33:19 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

Sure, but how do you select that lieberland node for your transaction?

timing ..

Alex M - clockwork13:33:19 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

hence thats the same as having a node in the bahamas

Fabian Schuh13:33:28 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I know when liberland node will produce a block ..

Stan Larimer13:33:28 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Some of our nodes are in Utah, using its favorable legal tender laws.

Fabian Schuh13:34:01 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

Some of our nodes are in Utah, using its favorable legal tender laws.

Legal tender means "tokens" that have value that can be transfered on chain.. right?

Stan Larimer13:34:15 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Pretty awkward, vs just specifying it in a smart contract that won't execute outside its GPS box.

Fabian Schuh13:34:24 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

How does legal tender law apply for other kinds of smart contracts? Think: tokenized real estate?

Fabian Schuh13:34:59 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

Pretty awkward, vs just specifying it in a smart contract that won't execute outside its GPS box.

bitshares transactions could carry an extension field that says which block producer/goelocation is allowed to include the tx into a block

Fabian Schuh13:35:06 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

quite simple actually ..

Stan Larimer13:35:08 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Legal tender applies to quint gold backed tokens. And beos which is quint backed.

Alex M - clockwork13:35:14 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

@xeroc

Alex M - clockwork13:35:24 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

i'm quitesure thats what Stan is describing as well

Stan Larimer13:35:30 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Yes! It would be good to add that to BitShares.

Alex M - clockwork13:35:42 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

as I said...I understand "picking" the witness to execute the tx

Fabian Schuh13:35:46 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

How do I ensure that a block producer is located in an area/country?

Crypto Kong13:36:04 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Can someone unban litepresence, he got pimp slapped again lol

Fabian Schuh13:36:07 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

GEOip tracking won't help

Fabian Schuh13:36:18 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

Can someone unban litepresence, he got pimp slapped again lol

@favdesu ..

Stan Larimer13:36:21 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

All BEOS nodes have gps antennas as a requirement.

Alex M - clockwork13:36:38 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

true

Stan Larimer13:36:43 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

That's what we are demonstrating in my Brilliancs of the Seas post.

Dima BLCKCHND13:36:53 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

xeroc

FWIW, a bitshares node in liberland would serve that too, no?

sure Vít be happy to have one)

Alex M - clockwork13:37:09 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

however there is no way to track where the witness is

Stan Larimer13:37:13 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

And that's why it is such a relevant post for this forum.

fav13:37:19 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

blockchained

sure Vít be happy to have one)

And a VPN server would be cool too

Fabian Schuh13:37:23 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

blockchained

sure Vít be happy to have one)

you have a connetion to liberland? Maybe we should really try get one up there :D

Alex M - clockwork13:37:31 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

the only proof a specific block producer created a block

Alex M - clockwork13:37:36 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

is use of its private key

Fabian Schuh13:37:38 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Is there anything in liberland, other than a fee tents and trees?

Stan Larimer13:37:42 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Witnesses must be trusted to correctly log their location.

Stan Larimer13:37:58 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

But we trust them to execute the right code already.

fav13:38:03 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Wrong blockchain if you want to deanon witnesses

Alex M - clockwork13:38:16 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

even if you did

Alex M - clockwork13:38:38 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

there is no way to prove where the tx took place

Stan Larimer13:38:43 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

We'll be adding a GPS location field to every BEOS block in the next month.

Alex M - clockwork13:38:47 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

same key in 30 different locations

Alex M - clockwork13:38:52 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

any could sign the block

Fabian Schuh13:38:57 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

there is no way to prove where the tx took place

I confirm that .. because a transaction, nor a block has a location

Fabian Schuh13:39:08 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

same key in 30 different locations

In fact ... you want that ..

Fabian Schuh13:39:12 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

you need backup servers

Fabian Schuh13:39:20 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

those should be located somewhere else ..

Fabian Schuh13:39:24 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

wouldn't be redundent otherwise

Alex M - clockwork13:39:29 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

unless you can track block origin via the p2p connections

Stan Larimer13:39:30 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

So every block gets signed by a node reading its GPS coordinates.

Alex M - clockwork13:39:34 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

but if you can

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Alex M - clockwork13:39:37 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

so can anyone else

Fabian Schuh13:39:45 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

unless you can track block origin via the p2p connections

p2p goes ontop of tcp/ip .. can tunnel through proxy/vpn

Alex M - clockwork13:39:45 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

which is a whole different can of worms

Dennis Brand13:39:52 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

fav13:39:58 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

xeroc

@favdesu ..

Sent a PDF to the group. Instaban

Stan Larimer13:40:06 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

And if you switch to backup, it will report the backup's location and not execute the contract.

George (Bitspark)13:40:13 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

xeroc

you have a connetion to liberland? Maybe we should really try get one up there :D

hes was on my FB a while ago, am a friend is one of their ambassadors lol. Note sure theres much in liberland yet though other thana shack maybe with a power connection so liklihood of Bitshares node is low

Alex M - clockwork13:40:26 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

George_Bitspark

lol

John Williams13:40:33 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Dennis Brand13:40:48 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Fabian Schuh13:41:06 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

No power there .. lol

Alex M - clockwork13:41:18 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

in any case

Dennis Brand13:41:31 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I am willing to teach everyone who sends me a dm how to manipulate the bitcoin mining process and earn up to 2.33BTC from home while mining bitcoins.

Alex M - clockwork13:41:34 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

assuming all that works and is tamper proof

Stan Larimer13:41:46 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I'd love to host a few bitshares nodes on our ships or satellites and give this capability to bitshares.

Alex M - clockwork13:41:48 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

still dont understand the advantage of a cruise or space ship

Dennis Brand13:41:52 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I am willing to teach everyone who sends me a dm how to manipulate the bitcoin mining process and earn up to 2.33BTC from home while mining bitcoins.

Alex M - clockwork13:42:15 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

why onboard the radiance of the seas and not in a bahamas data center?

Alex M - clockwork13:42:24 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

same jurisdiction

Fuzzy13:42:31 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

I'd love to host a few bitshares nodes on our ships or satellites and give this capability to bitshares.

Id love if the communitu has an audit and found people who invested money in prior projects of your and lost it.

Fuzzy13:42:43 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

So u guys could help them

Stan Larimer13:42:51 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Well cruise ships open their casinos when they reach international waters and close them when they enter ports. Why is that?

Fuzzy13:42:56 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Instead of telling them "trust us and ull get coins"

Alex M - clockwork13:43:19 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

Well cruise ships open their casinos when they reach international waters and close them when they enter ports. Why is that?

because within 12 miles of teh coast, jurisdiction -> country of coast

Alex M - clockwork13:43:26 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

international waters -> country of registry

Stan Larimer13:43:31 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Yes.

Alex M - clockwork13:43:38 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

point being

Alex M - clockwork13:43:43 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

if bahamas is favourable

Alex M - clockwork13:43:47 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

put a node in the bahamas

Alex M - clockwork13:43:56 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

cruise ship is irrelevant

Fuzzy13:44:23 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Just think stan...if there wasnt a list of 13 projects that went nowhere and some that asked for money that was gone forever...u might not have to bribe trust

Stan Larimer13:44:26 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

We can do that too. But international waters and international space is special.

Alex M - clockwork13:44:33 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

We can do that too. But international waters and international space is special.

not really

Alex M - clockwork13:44:44 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

law is clear....jurisdiction is state of registry

Alex M - clockwork13:44:47 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

in fact its worse

Stan Larimer13:44:57 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Fuzzy, I'm ashamed of you.

Alex M - clockwork13:45:06 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

because if an activity can be proven to be bad/serious enough

Dima BLCKCHND13:45:12 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

xeroc

you have a connetion to liberland? Maybe we should really try get one up there :D

I support his efforts, it is nice experiment, he have a fire as must have leader of micronation)

Fuzzy13:45:17 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

Fuzzy, I'm ashamed of you.

Are u stan?

Alex M - clockwork13:45:18 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

ANY country can prosecure over an activity in international waters

Alex M - clockwork13:45:35 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

thats the special part about international waters

Stan Larimer13:45:40 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

People will have to verify what laws apply.

Fuzzy13:45:50 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

After all the nonfake projects ive had

Fuzzy13:46:00 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

None of which u seem to care about

Stan Larimer13:46:20 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I just published to WhaleShares last night.

Fuzzy13:46:23 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Im ashamed of u

Dima BLCKCHND13:46:27 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

xeroc

Is there anything in liberland, other than a fee tents and trees?

1 house

Fuzzy13:46:47 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

I just published to WhaleShares last night.

Good...then u wont be censored theee

Once Uponatime13:46:49 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

SirFuzzalot

After all the nonfake projects ive had

You going to reimburse me my investment in sharebits?

Alex M - clockwork13:46:53 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

blockchained

1 house

sweet

Fuzzy13:47:04 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

onceponatime

You going to reimburse me my investment in sharebits?

I did

Fuzzy13:47:10 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I gave u beyondbits

Fuzzy13:47:17 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

A long time ago if u recall

Fuzzy13:47:27 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

And u sure used them on ur account in steem

Fabian Schuh13:47:29 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

blockchained

1 house

nuf room for a bunch of servers then :D

Fuzzy13:47:36 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

And ironically i got 4k from the community

Fuzzy13:47:41 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

And sharebits works!

Fuzzy13:47:51 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Https://sharebits.io

Stan Larimer13:47:54 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Well fuzzy, other than John Gotts betraying us all, what the hell are you carping about?

Fuzzy13:47:57 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Look at it

Stan Larimer13:48:09 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I lost 50K to John.

Fuzzy13:48:44 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

Well fuzzy, other than John Gotts betraying us all, what the hell are you carping about?

Im talking about u actually expecting anyone to believe u after all this track recoed

Alex M - clockwork13:48:44 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

can we not mention Gotts?

Stan Larimer13:48:50 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

And called him out as soon as he went rogut.

Alex M - clockwork13:48:55 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

yes

Alex M - clockwork13:49:03 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

and a lot of peopel called him out MUCH before that

Fuzzy13:49:07 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

can we not mention Gotts?

Please do

Alex M - clockwork13:49:10 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

due to his track record

Fabian Schuh13:49:22 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

And called him out as soon as he went rogue.

If I recall correctly, you have been warned of him way in advance ... but you didn't listen

Alex M - clockwork13:49:26 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

but were bad fudsters until then

Stan Larimer13:49:38 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

You recall incorrectly.

Alex M - clockwork13:50:34 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

the search function in this group works btw...anyone can search back and see how many people brought up gotts' shady past

Once Uponatime13:50:39 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

xeroc

If I recall correctly, you have been warned of him way in advance ... but you didn't listen

Like the way we were warned about kencode?

Fabian Schuh13:50:54 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

You recall incorrectly.

Email ... 2017/10/18

Stan Larimer13:50:57 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

People I objected to Fudding Arise and getting an innocent guy in trouble with the Feds. Not the same as an endorsement. Fudding to bring down the feds on someone is reprehensable and I stand by my stand.

Fuzzy13:51:03 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Lets look at the track record of the guy stan is dissappointed in: Stakemine.io Sharebits.io Sharebitstalk.io Whaleshares.io (dropped 100% on community) Crosschain whale tokens between eos, bts, and other chains.

Fuzzy13:51:23 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Best that u continue being dissappointed in me

Mathew13:51:24 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

We managed to have a quite interesting talk there about jurisdictions and how things apply etc but we've descended into back and forth again 🙈🙉

Stan Larimer13:51:44 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Thanks to fuzzy.

Fuzzy13:51:44 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

But dont try to pretend its because im an asshole

Fuzzy13:51:51 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

Thanks to fuzzy.

Nawww

Fuzzy13:52:02 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Thanks to lots of good people

Fuzzy13:52:12 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Good people who earned trusr

Dima BLCKCHND13:52:18 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

blockchained

https://liberlandpress.com/2016/05/winners-liberlands-architectural-competition/

Alex M - clockwork13:52:22 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

Not talking about arise

Fuzzy13:52:22 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Maybe a lesson worth learning stan

Alex M - clockwork13:52:29 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

But gotts

Fuzzy13:52:33 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

Not talking about arise

Fudding?

Mathew13:52:33 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

matle85

We managed to have a quite interesting talk there about jurisdictions and how things apply etc but we've descended into back and forth again 🙈🙉

I was scrolling through thinking: - oh we've gone off the rails - oh no wait interesting talk on legality, jurisdiction etc... - oh god no wait we are off the rails again

Stan Larimer13:52:45 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

You pretend to be my friend then betray me with outrgeous claims.

Fuzzy13:52:55 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Fudding = bringing up uncomfortable truths?

Fuzzy13:53:03 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

You pretend to be my friend then betray me with outrgeous claims.

Outrageous?

Stan Larimer13:53:07 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Evander backed out due to the fudding or Arise.

Alex M - clockwork13:53:09 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

As to whose fault it is Jared got into so much shit ..let's not go there

Mathew13:53:13 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

blockchained

Get a few solar panels on the roof and a node in there. They probably need a libreland currency too

Fuzzy13:53:42 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

U mean like people losing lots of money and tyen being told to get in on beos they need to send bts to u?

Fuzzy13:53:50 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Thats NOT fud

Fuzzy13:53:55 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Damnit stan...

Fuzzy13:54:00 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

U are not the victim here

Fuzzy13:54:10 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

many people who TRUSTED U are

Dima BLCKCHND13:54:25 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

matle85

Get a few solar panels on the roof and a node in there. They probably need a libreland currency too

they like bitshares we talk alot but mass adaption is a btc so they choose it for the national currency

Fuzzy13:54:25 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Its why we made stakemine

Stan Larimer13:54:31 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

It's under control in escrow with Dan Notestein's company. You gonna fud him too?

Fuzzy13:54:46 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I was tired of people promising the world in return for money and doing nothing with the funds

Fuzzy13:54:53 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Now u have to have a working producg

Stan Larimer13:55:25 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Well', I've just spent 700K bringing BEOS to BitShares.

Fuzzy13:55:26 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

It's under control in escrow with Dan Notestein's company. You gonna fud him too?

U really have such a hard time seeing the issues?

Fabian Schuh13:55:28 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Email "John Gotts information" from 17/10/16 ...

Fuzzy13:55:36 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

This is why im dissappointed in you...

Stan Larimer13:55:40 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I put my money where my mouth is.

Once Uponatime13:55:42 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

SirFuzzalot

I was tired of people promising the world in return for money and doing nothing with the funds

BEOS hs not asked anyone for money.

Fuzzy13:55:55 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

onceponatime

BEOS hs not asked anyone for money.

Naw...just that u let them hold it

Fuzzy13:55:57 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Lol

Fuzzy13:56:10 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Dont go pretending that bullshit

Fuzzy13:56:40 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

whaleshares never required anyone give us anything

Fuzzy13:56:53 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

you only had to prove you owned your bts account to claim your tokens

Fuzzy13:57:01 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

and that was done using zero knowledge proofs

Fuzzy13:57:09 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

meaning....NO TRUST NEEDED

Fuzzy13:57:23 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

this of course is after we actually completed the chain

Fuzzy13:57:28 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

and multiple other projects

Fuzzy13:57:51 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

i have an idea stan

Fuzzy13:57:54 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

you talk about principles

Fuzzy13:57:58 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

stand up for them

Fuzzy13:58:02 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

not just talking it

Fuzzy13:58:03 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

doing it

Fuzzy13:58:10 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

then you wont have "fud" like this.

Stan Larimer13:58:49 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

We decided we wanted to give voting power in our network to people who trust us. If you don't you have no reason to expect us to trust you.

Fuzzy13:58:55 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

or...keep picking new projects and telling people that if they dont trust you enough to send bts to a central account that they dont deserve beos

Fuzzy13:59:06 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

which his bullshit

Fuzzy13:59:10 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

hurt them twice why dont you

Once Uponatime13:59:31 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

SirFuzzalot

this of course is after we actually completed the chain

The BEOS chain is quite functional.

Fuzzy13:59:34 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

"oh i was screwed in the past projects so im not sure if i should send my remaining bts to this single wallet"

Fuzzy13:59:48 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

onceponatime

The BEOS chain is quite functional.

yep...sure is. just like all forks of eos

Fuzzy13:59:54 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

finally one projects half done

Fuzzy14:00:04 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

now you deserve all the trust in the world

Fuzzy14:00:28 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

and now everyone who is LEGITIMATELY concerned about others getting hurt can be called fudders

Fuzzy14:00:44 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

such a good thing i wont be banned for saying this

Stan Larimer14:00:50 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Where does all this hate come from fuzzy? I've always been a loyal friend to you.

Fuzzy14:00:59 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

Where does all this hate come from fuzzy? I've always been a loyal friend to you.

hate?

Fuzzy14:01:02 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

why do you call this hate?

Fuzzy14:01:07 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

im saying there are GOOD PEOPLE who lost alot

Fuzzy14:01:11 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

fix it!

Fuzzy14:01:15 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

that is LOVING

Fuzzy14:01:25 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

stop connecting me with this "hatred" bullshit

Fuzzy14:01:51 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

it makes me want to cry thinking how many people will never trust bts again because of all this crap

Fuzzy14:02:03 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

especially since i have 150k bts to my name

Fuzzy14:02:16 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

after years of sacrifice

Fuzzy14:02:23 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

and im an asshole

Henry W14:02:26 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

BTS no hope

Fuzzy14:02:29 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

(somehow)

Henry W14:02:40 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

broken my heart

Fuzzy14:02:45 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Henry W

BTS no hope

well lots of hope left when the money changers came in

Crypto Kong14:03:02 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I thought we were killing conversations that turned into shit shows?

Once Uponatime14:03:21 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

SirFuzzalot

fix it!

BEOS fixes many things. And I don't think anyone lost more than I did on failed projects. I gave almost everyone a chance to prove themselves. But, like in the rest of life, most projects do fail for many different reasons.

Fuzzy14:03:27 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

conversations that turn to shitshows?

Digital Lucife®14:03:38 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Henry W

BTS no hope

why no hope ? When I put this into log script and email some directors in Holywood you'll see Moon!

Fuzzy14:03:52 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

onceponatime

im pretty sure that although you think you speak for all of them...you dont

Alex M - clockwork14:03:55 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

I thought we were killing conversations that turned into shit shows?

orthodox easter...i'm on holiday till tuesday...you guys are on your own

Crypto Kong14:03:58 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Not sure how else you would describe the above lol

Fuzzy14:04:09 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

Not sure how else you would describe the above lol

you mean uncomfortable truths?

Fuzzy14:04:21 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

maybe you should talk about all the good things i mentioned us having

Crypto Kong14:04:22 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Whatever you say man... lol

Joe, Son of Bob, Uncle to Tom14:04:22 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I have plenty to say on it, but no time ATM. Nothing that I haven't said already...

Stan Larimer14:04:23 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Not truths.

Fuzzy14:04:28 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

during this conversation

Fuzzy14:04:40 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

Not truths.

i am still waiting for a list of the successful projects stan

Once Uponatime14:04:48 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

orthodox easter...i'm on holiday till tuesday...you guys are on your own

I'm doing the last week fast. First time.

Fuzzy14:04:49 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

please post it in here

Fuzzy14:04:53 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

instead of dm's

Alex M - clockwork14:05:05 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

onceponatime

I'm doing the last week fast. First time.

same...mostly for my kids

Stan Larimer14:05:08 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I've given six years of my life to this community. All give and no take.

Alex M - clockwork14:05:12 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

not a big believer personally

Fuzzy14:05:35 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

now with that said...im now concerned we are moving onto eos...and people are going to trust all this because of the connections to dan.

Crypto Kong14:05:36 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I ate 2 easter eggs, does that count?

Fuzzy14:05:48 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

when good people were harmed...

Wehrrr14:05:59 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Is taconator here? I love his shilling of beos on steemit. It's the worst.

Fuzzy14:05:59 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

but hey ...seriously

Stan Larimer14:05:59 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Not fair to blame me for failures of others.

Fuzzy14:06:08 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

i have no reason to continue talking about it

Fuzzy14:06:14 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

i have more important things to do with my time

Crypto Kong14:06:18 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

SirFuzzalot

i have no reason to continue talking about it

Phew

Fuzzy14:06:19 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

however it did need said

Once Uponatime14:06:26 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

not a big believer personally

It's probably good for health.

Alex M - clockwork14:06:38 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

onceponatime

It's probably good for health.

oh yeah sure...no question about that

Fuzzy14:06:42 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

I've given six years of my life to this community. All give and no take.

how do we know this?

Fabian Schuh14:06:53 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

I ate 2 easter eggs, does that count?

choclate ones .. right?

Stan Larimer14:07:01 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Read my blogging record.

Alex M - clockwork14:07:01 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

xeroc

choclate ones .. right?

scotch probably :P

Stan Larimer14:07:13 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

I've been at it constantly.

Fuzzy14:07:14 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

Read my blogging record.

i asked you for a short list

Fuzzy14:07:18 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

of successful projects

Fuzzy14:07:22 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

and still have not received it

Crypto Kong14:07:22 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

xeroc

choclate ones .. right?

Lol yes, boiled eggs not so exciting 😂

Fuzzy14:07:28 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

instead i need to walk through a bunch of blogs

Fuzzy14:07:40 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

i gave you a list of completed projects in here.

Fuzzy14:07:44 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

it was quite easy

Fuzzy14:07:54 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

because i have amazing people who care about other people who helped work on them

Fuzzy14:08:00 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

not because of me.

Fuzzy14:08:06 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

because i chose good hearted people

Crypto Kong14:08:25 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Fuzzy we dont care that you think your dicks bigger than stans

Alex M - clockwork14:08:31 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

SirFuzzalot

because i chose good hearted people

had a couple of lapses too admittedly

Fuzzy14:08:48 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

had a couple of lapses too admittedly

for sure

Fuzzy14:09:02 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

and i walked away from the people who harmed others and myself

Fuzzy14:09:08 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

and even in those cases I LOST the money

Fuzzy14:09:20 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

i never asked for anyone to trust

Fuzzy14:09:22 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

just got shit done

Fuzzy14:09:32 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

LOL

Fuzzy14:09:52 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

im not sure what kind of badass you are...but you just posted this with perfect timing.

Fabian Schuh14:09:56 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

Fuzzy we dont care that you think your dicks bigger than stans

wow .. I dare you talk like this with fuzzy

Gabriel14:10:01 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

: I couldnt resist not too

Crypto Kong14:10:12 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

😝

Fabian Schuh14:10:22 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

SirFuzzalot

just got shit done

BUIDL ... also much more fund

Fuzzy14:10:31 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

xeroc

BUIDL ... also much more fun

and alot less drama

Crypto Kong14:10:38 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

These petty arguments are tiring

Fuzzy14:10:39 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

which is what id prefer.

Fuzzy14:10:43 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

These petty arguments are tiring

petty /

Stan Larimer14:10:52 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Very sad to have lost a good friend today.

Fuzzy14:10:56 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

its petty to be upset good people lost trust in bts because of losing money?

Fuzzy14:11:02 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

Very sad to have lost a good friend today.

you think you lost a friend?

Fuzzy14:11:07 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

wrong way of thinking about it

Fabian Schuh14:11:12 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

Very sad to have lost a good friend today.

Well .. you've lost me too .. that makes it two, I suppose

Fuzzy14:11:14 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

unless of course you want to lose me as af riend.

Fuzzy14:11:21 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

xeroc

Well .. you've lost me too .. that makes it two, I suppose

stan has not lost me...

Fuzzy14:11:26 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

as a friend

Fabian Schuh14:11:27 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Although, you lost me 10 days ago when you called me troll on steemit

Fuzzy14:11:39 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

i want to make that very clear

Fuzzy14:11:48 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

BUT stan you are the one who said you are dissappointed in ME

Fuzzy14:11:53 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

lets not confuse things

Fuzzy14:11:56 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

i didnt say it...you did

Fuzzy14:12:00 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

i responded

Fuzzy14:12:08 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

with truth btw

Stan Larimer14:12:09 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

My apologies. You got lumped in with all the real trols.t.

Fuzzy14:12:12 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

and real things that are done

Fuzzy14:12:20 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

My apologies. You got lumped in with all the real trols.t.

i honestly do give a shit about all of you guys

Nicole14:12:27 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

SirFuzzalot

BUT stan you are the one who said you are dissappointed in ME

😁😁😂😂🤣🤣

Fabian Schuh14:12:36 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

My apologies. You got lumped in with all the real trols.t.

Put that on steem, I may believe you then

Fuzzy14:12:44 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

im just very very sad i feel like i havent paid off my house....because i believed in all of you guys

Stan Larimer14:12:51 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Ok, I'll edit the post.

Fuzzy14:12:58 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

and i did it because i WANT to believe

Alex M - clockwork14:13:06 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

group hug

Fuzzy14:13:08 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

but its NOT EASY in present circumstances

Alex M - clockwork14:13:15 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

too soon?

Crypto Kong14:13:17 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

group hug

😂

Fuzzy14:13:19 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

im asking for basic reasonable things to change that.

Nicole14:13:34 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

SirFuzzalot

im just very very sad i feel like i havent paid off my house....because i believed in all of you guys

What happened dude

Fuzzy14:14:15 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

ive sacrificed and had many good people sacrifice for things that we believed everyone in bitshares cared about.

Nicole14:14:20 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Wondering what this group is all about

Fuzzy14:14:24 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

but somewhere along the way all we started caring about is moon.

Fuzzy14:14:33 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

witht hat said...im going to give my baby a bath a nd love him

Fuzzy14:14:56 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

i frigging love him....and he has a way of making me smile even when im feeling grumpy :P

Nicole14:14:58 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Is it a room for fight and arguments ?

Alex M - clockwork14:15:02 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

nicolecoin

Wondering what this group is all about

South American soap operas ON blockchain

Nicole14:15:27 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

South American soap operas ON blockchain

Then why the fight and arguments

Nicole14:15:44 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Guys please can we be positive here

Nicole14:17:00 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

So any paying investment site here ?

spirit absolute14:18:05 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

when the moon?

Alex M - clockwork14:18:39 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

spiritabsolute

when the moon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKl4FE_W1Cs

spirit absolute14:19:19 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

you just need to keep working. need to live with the loss of money. those who invested on the wave of HYIP, lost money. forget about them :)

Stan Larimer14:19:26 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

Ok, I'll edit the post.

Fabian (not technically a troll, but with a legitimate question) BEOS doesn't follow social consensus on airdropping. BEOS is 100% raindropped on bitshares holders who support the project, which in my mind far exceeds a 20% one time airdrop on everybody, including those who don't like us and don't want us to succeed. So, we exceed the social consensus by a huge factor. It is not the same as the original BitShares consensus but, then exactly no projects have ever followed the 20% rule. We are giving the circulating supply all away, but only to believers in what we are doing.

Fabian Schuh14:19:52 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

I am not going to have that discussion again.

Alex M - clockwork14:20:31 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

i think he was just pointing out the edit he made

Fabian Schuh14:20:49 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Oh .. I see.

Fabian Schuh14:21:09 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Those statements look more reasonable to me.

Stan Larimer14:21:17 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Yep, proof of fix,

Fabian Schuh14:21:24 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

👍

Crypto Kong14:21:47 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

nicolecoin

Wondering what this group is all about

First rule of fight club is dont talk about fight club

Fabian Schuh14:22:08 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Was it really 20%? I had 10% in my mind .. but I also believe there were changes made over time ..

Crypto Kong14:22:23 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

South American soap operas ON blockchain

Lol

Fabian Schuh14:22:33 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Anyways, it's worth mentioning that PeerPlays was the only one (to my knowledge) that gifted 5% to all BTS hodlers ..

Fabian Schuh14:22:42 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Can't remember what MUSE did

Alex M - clockwork14:22:47 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

yoyow? or do i remember wrong?

Fabian Schuh14:22:53 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

No clue

Stan Larimer14:22:56 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Yes, the social consensus was 20%. Who did that?

Fabian Schuh14:23:05 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

No one

Fabian Schuh14:23:42 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

missed that first-mover, ehm :D

Alex M - clockwork14:23:44 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

whaleshares

Stan Larimer14:23:46 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

So we are doing 100% to all who are willing to use our system for 3three months.

Fabian Schuh14:24:05 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

clockworkgr

whaleshares

right .. They dropped 100%!

Stan Larimer14:24:14 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

And leaving out only those who don't want us to succeed.

Fabian Schuh14:24:14 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

or close to ..

Fabian Schuh14:24:20 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

can'T remember the details ..

Alex M - clockwork14:24:28 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

78% of initial supply iirc

Fabian Schuh14:24:35 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

And leaving out only those who don't want us to succeed.

sorry stan .. but you are drawing wrong conclusions

Fabian Schuh14:24:51 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

not being comfortable moving BTS into custody != not wanting BEOS to succeed

spirit absolute14:24:51 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

everything is simple! You need to deal with Bitshares as an opensource project. work for free, as a hobby :) budgets should be reduced by 10 times. you need to work on a specialty and buy bts for a salary :) and do not give your tokens to any projects like beos. :)

Alex M - clockwork14:24:55 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

11% on brownie and 11% on existing whalshare holders

Crypto Kong14:25:03 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

xeroc

not being comfortable moving BTS into custody != not wanting BEOS to succeed

Fair point

Fabian Schuh14:25:21 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

spiritabsolute

That works as long as you have part-time/hobbiest work for bitshares ..

Fabian Schuh14:25:38 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

we've left that realm over 2 years ago when people when full-time

Alex M - clockwork14:25:44 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

chain would have halted a long time ago with hobbyists

Fabian Schuh14:25:50 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

THIS!

Fabian Schuh14:26:00 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

bitUSD would have been GS indefinitely with hobbyists

Stan Larimer14:26:19 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Yep, I'm very impressed with what I see in the Witness Channel.

Fabian Schuh14:26:20 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

There is **plenty** of commitments to bitshares by **many** people

Alex M - clockwork14:26:44 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

and those of us who get paid by the chain for workers/witnesses

Crypto Kong14:26:47 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

Is a credit rating that affects min col ratio possible on bitshares?

Fabian Schuh14:26:48 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

StanLarimer

Yep, I'm very impressed with what I see in the Witness Channel.

Should look into the BitSharesDEV channel, or DexBot, or pybitshares channel ..

Fabian Schuh14:26:50 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

there are so many ..

Alex M - clockwork14:26:53 - 24 Apr 2019 [UTC]

probably have bitshares asa hobby too

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