Thursday 16 May 2019

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Crypto Kong12:50:29 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
George_Bitspark
its whatever people vote for and whatever refund worker gets voted in
yeah its tricky to allocate funds correctly with this system...
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Jonathan Bahai12:50:53 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
As important as core worker is... Does it really need 61% of funds allocated to it?
don't forget the 5% tax the BBF puts in its pocket for its 'favor'
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bench12:53:30 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
JBahai
don't forget the 5% tax the BBF puts in its pocket for its 'favor'
what happens with the 5%?
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Fabian Schuh12:53:31 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
JBahai
don't forget the 5% tax the BBF puts in its pocket for its 'favor'
it's an escrow fee ... they don't work for free
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Crypto Kong12:53:51 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Well that is what it is... the comunity voted the proposals in so must have been happy with it but it is certainly an interesting point that BitShares pays BBF more for escrowing workers than it spends on marketing.
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Fabian Schuh12:53:53 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
As important as core worker is... Does it really need 61% of funds allocated to it?
core worker doesn't pay nearly as much as 5% .. much less ..
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Fabian Schuh12:54:02 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
but who cares about the facts ...
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Crypto Kong12:54:35 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
I think perhaps the approach to workers needs to change
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Crypto Kong12:55:05 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
rather than the community just seeing a worker thinking yeah i like that idea and voting it in, we need to start considering how much is already being allocated to certain areas
JB
Jonathan Bahai12:55:12 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Well that is what it is... the comunity voted the proposals in so must have been happy with it but it is certainly an interesting point that BitShares pays BBF more for escrowing workers than it spends on marketing.
That's an interesting fact right there!
JB
Jonathan Bahai12:55:39 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
I think perhaps the approach to workers needs to change
testify!
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George (Bitspark)12:55:43 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
if anyone wants to setup a cheaper escrow pls go ahead
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George (Bitspark)12:55:48 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
nobody stopping you
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Fabian Schuh12:55:52 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Well that is what it is... the comunity voted the proposals in so must have been happy with it but it is certainly an interesting point that BitShares pays BBF more for escrowing workers than it spends on marketing.
Do you know where the 5% fee goes? You think the accounting page came for free? hosting? legal risk?
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Fabian Schuh12:55:59 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
George_Bitspark
if anyone wants to setup a cheaper escrow pls go ahead
This ..
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Fabian Schuh12:56:14 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
wonder how long it takes them to figure out how to set things up in a compliant way ..
JB
Jonathan Bahai12:56:31 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
George_Bitspark
nobody stopping you
lets be honest.. voting stops everyone... because they know they don't have a prayer for getting support without bowing down to that process.
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Crypto Kong12:56:41 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Im not saying that the escrow service is a problem or that it shouldnt exist, im simply stating that we as a community need to start looking at how funds are allocated better
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Fabian Schuh12:56:49 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
I think perhaps the approach to workers needs to change
How? I am looking for a better approach and am greatful for input
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George (Bitspark)12:56:55 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
JBahai
lets be honest.. voting stops everyone... because they know they don't have a prayer for getting support without bowing down to that process.
Dont need to vote in an escrow, thats private arrangement between the worker and someone else (the escrow)
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Fabian Schuh12:57:03 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
paying in workers in BTS sucks, but that's how the chain works
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Crypto Kong12:57:04 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
This wasnt a dig at the BBF this was more looking at how we better balance our budgets
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Fabian Schuh12:57:49 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Im not saying that the escrow service is a problem or that it shouldnt exist, im simply stating that we as a community need to start looking at how funds are allocated better
True .. that's also why i started rotating my votes for workers ... otherwise good workers are overfunded and others don't get a penny
JB
Jonathan Bahai12:58:06 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
This wasnt a dig at the BBF this was more looking at how we better balance our budgets
yes... the worker process needs optimizing.
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Crypto Kong12:58:34 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
xeroc
How? I am looking for a better approach and am greatful for input
we use polls for changin parameters on smart coins, perhaps we should use polls to vote in future budget allocations to each sector, ie: core, marketing, infrastructure, ui, etc
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Fabian Schuh12:58:41 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
This wasnt a dig at the BBF this was more looking at how we better balance our budgets
Personally, I like the idea of having another body on chain that has slightly more say over workers .. that would also allow to guarantee funding for a longer period of time ... it however removes power from voters which isn't in favor of everyone
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Crypto Kong12:58:50 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
so ie: 50% core, 10% marketing, etc
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Mr Robert12:58:52 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Hi
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Fabian Schuh12:58:55 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
we use polls for changin parameters on smart coins, perhaps we should use polls to vote in future budget allocations to each sector, ie: core, marketing, infrastructure, ui, etc
that's what you do by voting for the workers
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Fabian Schuh12:59:28 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
so ie: 50% core, 10% marketing, etc
if you want a corporate setup, you will have to also have to accept corporate pricing .. need to cover legal risk
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Crypto Kong12:59:35 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
i think if you put those polls up they would not reflect current budget allocation
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George (Bitspark)13:00:07 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
escrow also checks milestones in workers to sign off on payments right?
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Fabian Schuh13:00:08 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
think about an imaginary worker that pays some entity Xk$ a year and votes provide the percentages payed per "topic" .. there is huge management overhead in making sure the percentages are met and that budget is not overspent
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Fabian Schuh13:00:31 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
George_Bitspark
escrow also checks milestones in workers to sign off on payments right?
yes ... plus it assists in formulating worker proposals prior to seting them up on chain
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George (Bitspark)13:00:42 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
hm yeh ok thats alot of work
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Fabian Schuh13:00:57 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
prior consultation for worker proposals is a HUGE part of the worker that consumes a LOT of time at potentially ZERO outcome (see atomic swap worker)
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Crypto Kong13:01:36 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Yeah i have no problem with the BBF and escrow and the fee charged, just making a point about budget allocations...
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Fabian Schuh13:01:51 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
I agree ..
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Fabian Schuh13:02:02 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
currently, it's the proxies and voters that have to do budget allocations
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Fabian Schuh13:02:11 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
and not all of them are capable of doing so ...
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Fabian Schuh13:02:23 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
what makes it worse is that proxies need to agree on how to spend the budget .. to some extend ..
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Fabian Schuh13:02:44 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
else, they vote in different workers and there it goes .. the budget allocation planning ..
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Crypto Kong13:06:19 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
I think also that current spending in active workers doesnt neccesairily reflect the yearly budget, if we had a better way of tracking or displaying in the UI different types of workers we could see that at the mo we are on track to spend say 2% of yearly budget on marketing and then towards the end of the year people see that and be like no im not voting in another infrastructure or UI worker we need to spend money on marketing
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Crypto Kong13:07:38 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
So perhaps something in the UI or somewhere that helps display past allocations of spending would help people make better informed decisions on the future
JB
Jonathan Bahai13:14:13 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
I think also that current spending in active workers doesnt neccesairily reflect the yearly budget, if we had a better way of tracking or displaying in the UI different types of workers we could see that at the mo we are on track to spend say 2% of yearly budget on marketing and then towards the end of the year people see that and be like no im not voting in another infrastructure or UI worker we need to spend money on marketing
Yes.. this would in fact make it easier for people to more transparently see what is happening where and be able to make better decisions.. this has been talked about for a long time... still with all that comes out of the Worker though.. none of it goes towards making the process more transparent or more usable... in early days this was abundantly clear.
JB
Jonathan Bahai13:16:16 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
how about payouts in bitusd/cny? ... why can't we build processes in for that.. then we have something helping those markets
JB
Jonathan Bahai13:16:39 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
its not trivial.. but it deserve the attention for the sake of expanding our resources
JB
Jonathan Bahai13:16:54 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
the UI @Cryptokong123 suggests is a great first step
JB
Jonathan Bahai13:18:49 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
@sschiessl can something be done with the UI worker to make this better?
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Fabian Schuh13:32:13 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
JBahai
how about payouts in bitusd/cny? ... why can't we build processes in for that.. then we have something helping those markets
we had that discussion. search the forums
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Fabian Schuh13:34:07 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
JBahai
Yes.. this would in fact make it easier for people to more transparently see what is happening where and be able to make better decisions.. this has been talked about for a long time... still with all that comes out of the Worker though.. none of it goes towards making the process more transparent or more usable... in early days this issue with the Workers usability was abundantly clear... BFF stepped into the vaccum and now acts like a layer 2 solution to what should be a blockchain one.
as you know, off chain solutions are easier and more quickly inplemented .. also because they dont require a hard fork .. and offer more flexibility.
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JB
Jonathan Bahai13:38:16 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
xeroc
we had that discussion. search the forums
conclusion? execution?
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Thule13:44:08 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Core worker seems to be taking a massive chunk of this...
I checked it too last couple of days.The issue is even BTS price moved up it seems the demanded amount of BTS didn't went lower. On current price of 0.05 USD per BTS the worker would only need half of the demanded BTS.Add some extra amount for security but counting the amount of BTS based on 0.025 USD per BTS seems to be a bit low when we already hit 0.077 and are currently at 0.05
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Fabian Schuh13:46:17 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
thuleeee
I checked it too last couple of days.The issue is even BTS price moved up it seems the demanded amount of BTS didn't went lower. On current price of 0.05 USD per BTS the worker would only need half of the demanded BTS.Add some extra amount for security but counting the amount of BTS based on 0.025 USD per BTS seems to be a bit low when we already hit 0.077 and are currently at 0.05
true .. thats why the backoff factor has been reduced and will potentially be reduced further
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Fabian Schuh13:46:43 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
i probably dont need to remind you that the bear market made it difficult to pay workers even if the worker was active whole time
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Fabian Schuh13:47:06 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
for instance, the core worker only has a backoff factor of 1.5x
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Alex M - clockwork13:47:13 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
proxies need to stay on top of things and remove votes when workers are fully funded
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Fabian Schuh13:47:25 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
its a difficult balance between accepting currency risk and ensuring funding with volatile token
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Alex M - clockwork13:47:33 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
e.g. btspp mobile stayed active for a little while longer than needed
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Fabian Schuh13:47:36 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
bbf has taken a conservative approach so far
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Fabian Schuh13:47:49 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
clockworkgr
proxies need to stay on top of things and remove votes when workers are fully funded
this!
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Fabian Schuh13:48:09 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
though .. on a budget side, it doesnt matter, it just means more bts getting burned by bbf
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Alex M - clockwork13:48:30 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
it does allow more space for other workers though if they get voted out when funded
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Michael14:07:59 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
Doesnt GoogleDark own the BitSharesTV channel?
I do
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George (Bitspark)14:11:13 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Please take a look and support our proposal for the committee 😎👍 https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28395.0
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Stefan14:11:51 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
JBahai
@sschiessl can something be done with the UI worker to make this better?
Happy to. Could you create an issue please describing the desired visualization is?
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Stefan14:14:13 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
JBahai
Yes.. this would in fact make it easier for people to more transparently see what is happening where and be able to make better decisions.. this has been talked about for a long time... still with all that comes out of the Worker though.. none of it goes towards making the process more transparent or more usable... in early days this issue with the Workers usability was abundantly clear... BFF stepped into the vaccum and now acts like a layer 2 solution to what should be a blockchain one.
The legal setup will always be necessary, and among others if not carefully considered might end up paying way more in taxes when receiving worker pay. As to the bitUSD payout, a bitasset simply isn't feasible to support natively because it needs to be created and someone needs to carry the risk
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Stefan14:16:26 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
JBahai
how about payouts in bitusd/cny? ... why can't we build processes in for that.. then we have something helping those markets
The process is built, with one existing entity, and another is more than welcome. Direct stable coin payout would be something possible, as an IOU, then again escrow is much more than just paying out
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Crypto Kong15:42:23 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
JBahai
Yes.. this would in fact make it easier for people to more transparently see what is happening where and be able to make better decisions.. this has been talked about for a long time... still with all that comes out of the Worker though.. none of it goes towards making the process more transparent or more usable... in early days this issue with the Workers usability was abundantly clear... BFF stepped into the vaccum and now acts like a layer 2 solution to what should be a blockchain one.
Exactly, we want to encourage more engaged voters but we make it very hard for them to find any information, the more we can present to them in the UI the better
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Crypto Kong15:57:47 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
Happy to. Could you create an issue please describing the desired visualization is?
https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/issues/2682
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Crypto Kong16:20:58 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Please add comments on above feature request for UI
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John 17:01:53 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Please add comments on above feature request for UI
So pictures?
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Crypto Kong17:05:19 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
John
So pictures?
With colours and numbers yes lol
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John 17:06:19 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Those seem to get the people going haha
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Crypto Kong17:07:31 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
😁
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Calvin Froedge17:25:14 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Does anyone know if openledger BTC having withdraw issues?
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Calvin Froedge17:25:23 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Did a withdrawal a few hours ago still no BTC
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Mathew17:34:21 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
John
Those seem to get the people going haha
Ooo yeah I love a bit of colours and numbers
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Mr.Ocean17:46:41 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Who owns the Null account in bitshares? If I’m not wrong all fee goes in the same account?
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R18:13:50 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
I_m_Ocean
Who owns the Null account in bitshares? If I’m not wrong all fee goes in the same account?
Fees don't go to null-account, nobody owns it
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Giorgi18:55:48 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
3 hours waiting for BTC deposit, it's madness
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John 19:02:49 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
MAMLU
3 hours waiting for BTC deposit, it's madness
@MAMLU plz specify which gateway or speak with the gateway provider directly. Noobs may think this delay is an issue with BTS Dex as this is a BTS Dex channel
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Giorgi19:04:25 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
The BTC mempool. Calm your tits.
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Martin Jordán19:10:28 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Somewhere around 51k uncofirmed TXs. Is the bottom in ? 😄
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Giorgi19:12:22 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
tim3w4rp
Somewhere around 51k uncofirmed TXs. Is the bottom in ? 😄
The mempool is insanely clogged. My first confirmation just came in, 3 hours and 12 minutes after having made the transaction.
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Giorgi19:12:51 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
It is also May, a year before the halvening. Could the crypto oracles be true in their prediction?
MJ
Martin Jordán19:13:10 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Maybe.
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Giorgi19:14:13 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Time to acquire more BTS then. I figure only coins with real-use case will get a taste of the bull run.
MJ
Martin Jordán19:14:21 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
I'm at a point where it's more important for me to be able to tell my friends: "I told you so", rather than actually making money. 😄
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Giorgi19:15:19 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
That's priceless.
MJ
Martin Jordán19:15:44 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Yea. 😄
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fav19:45:15 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
MAMLU
The mempool is insanely clogged. My first confirmation just came in, 3 hours and 12 minutes after having made the transaction.
I waited some days last years, so 3 hours is nothing
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Teiva20:54:34 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Needs to be much more focus on marketing and improving the state of our markets
Couldn't we just proxy in BTS DEX the order books of some CEXs with high liquidity ? Could be market making by just forwarding orders to CEX (buy and sell) ?
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Teiva20:55:58 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
creating PROXY assets ?
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Teiva20:58:37 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
PROXY could be 'auditable' if running on some smart contract platform like EOS or even Stellar (as it looks like settlement of orders) ?
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Crypto Kong20:59:55 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
still need funds to place orders on the dex
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Crypto Kong21:00:07 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Such a stragey will be available on dexbot soon
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Crypto Kong21:00:15 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
its known as mirrored liquidity
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Teiva21:01:02 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
👍 gotta get into this dexbot ASAP
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Crypto Kong21:01:08 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
So you will use your funds to place on the dex, when an order is filled, dexbot will then take the CEX order and leave you with your designated profit
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Teiva21:02:00 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
but can't the funds be 'mirrored' as well as an UIA
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Teiva21:02:24 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
like PROY.BTC, PROXY.USD PROXY.CNY
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Teiva21:02:28 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
UIA like OL
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Crypto Kong21:02:36 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
I dont really understand what your saying
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Teiva21:03:13 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
If you create 1000 PROXY.BTC out of thin air
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Teiva21:03:30 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
can't you create a mirrored market with this 'false' asset ?
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Crypto Kong21:03:53 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
no cos why would anyone buy that worthless asset?
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Teiva21:04:01 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
the asset is just used as a bridge ?
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Crypto Kong21:04:15 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
who backs it?
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Crypto Kong21:04:27 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
who guarantees it can be redeemed for anything of value?
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Teiva21:04:59 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
You never buy it to keep it
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Teiva21:05:26 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
just to bridge a transaction on the real market 'mirrored' one
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Teiva21:06:25 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Bob WTB BTC for BTS, will buy BTS/PROXY.BTC
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Teiva21:07:08 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
but immediately, this BUY is transformed in a real BUY in Bitfinex ?
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Teiva21:07:24 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
real BTS is given by Bob
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Teiva21:07:46 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
real BUY in Bitfinex is mirrored (and hedged by Bob's real BTS) ?
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Teiva21:08:28 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
if the markets are only BTS at first (3 sec transaction time)
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Teiva21:08:38 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
the settlement can be fast
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Teiva21:08:49 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
exposure to risk is quite low
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Teiva21:10:02 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
real BTS of Bob can go to Bitrex proxy account in 3 seconds
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Teiva21:10:12 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
and be used to buy real BTC
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Teiva21:10:35 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
and the return trip for BTC is a bit longer 10 20 mn
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Teiva21:11:43 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
.... need a settlement reserve fund to cover this risk
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Teiva21:12:38 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
but this reserve fund could be some lending contract (when we'll have lending on BTS ...)
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Teiva21:15:46 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
@Cryptokong123 maybe too simplistic (not really a MM myself) but wanting to learn about your DEXBot ASAP 👍
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Crypto Kong21:33:18 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
I suppose something could be built like that on top of bitshares
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Crypto Kong21:33:55 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Teiva
@Cryptokong123 maybe this is a bit simplistic (I'm not really a MM myself but wanting to learn about your DEXBot ASAP 👍
best way is to download it and get started 😁
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Teiva21:40:51 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
For sure I'll give it a try !
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Thule21:51:24 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Teiva
Couldn't we just proxy in BTS DEX the order books of some CEXs with high liquidity ? Could be market making by just forwarding orders to CEX (buy and sell) ?
As higher the waiting time for BTC as better for BTS.Traders on major exchanges used very often BTS to switch their assets quickly from one to another exchange
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Thule21:52:43 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Also lets see what is going to happen next 7 days. 16k BTC moved to bitfinex
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Mathew21:56:00 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
So you will use your funds to place an order on the dex, when an order is filled, dexbot will then take the CEX order and leave you with your designated profit
People should read this and think through the liquidity implications for the DEX. Amazing.
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Crypto Kong21:58:54 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
matle85
People should read this and think through the liquidity implications for the DEX. Amazing.
just one of the bridges we are building to connect all the trade routes, few more are needed :)
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J-Rod The Anon22:05:16 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
am I still able to borrow bitUSD with the current state of the network?
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J-Rod The Anon22:05:34 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
I'm playing around with it on wallet.bitshares.org and am finding it maybe buggy?
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R22:06:30 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Jroddingham
am I still able to borrow bitUSD with the current state of the network?
Yes
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R22:06:49 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Jroddingham
I'm playing around with it on wallet.bitshares.org and am finding it maybe buggy?
Please report bugs to the Bitshares-ui github repo
JT
J-Rod The Anon22:07:07 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
I was more trying to fiure out if it's operator error first. :)
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J-Rod The Anon22:07:54 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
it was operator error.
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Mathew22:38:15 - 10 May 2019 [UTC]
Jroddingham
it was operator error.
We've all been there 😉
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Kings00:24:58 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
if i click settle flag on some shitcoin that i have 0.000001 cent worth will i waste BTS or its a dust cleaning that will work free?
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funkit 🐳➕🐝00:33:58 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Yes, the fee is quite high. Just click it and see in the confirmation box. It’s cheaper to sell them.
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Kings00:59:26 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
thanks
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Kings00:59:33 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
we need some way to delete all the spam/dust
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kenCode01:12:30 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
kingskingsking
we need some way to delete all the spam/dust
i agree, i get sent a lot of raindropped shitcoins and would love an algo to do the spring cleaning for me every once in awhile
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funkit 🐳➕🐝01:15:37 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Cheapest is to sell them. Then there is the option of settling or burning them. Or send them to null.
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kenCode01:17:34 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
if i could bundle them all up at once and sent them to null in 1 transaction that would be cool
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funkit 🐳➕🐝01:20:06 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Only way I know you can send multiple in one tx is Stefans barter fuction. But the fees add up, so there is nothing to save I think.
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Kings01:36:19 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
yea the fees are too big to burn shitcoins
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Stefan05:08:52 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Jroddingham
I was more trying to figure out if it's operator error first. :)
Go to menu > Spotlight and find the Collaterized Debt Position with some explanation to ir
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Kafka 昇珉 Lee05:10:43 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
I cannot import my bin file
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Kafka 昇珉 Lee05:10:52 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
it says password is wrong ..
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Kafka 昇珉 Lee05:11:04 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
I have been imported it many times though..
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George (Bitspark)05:22:39 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
KafkaLee
it says password is wrong ..
try clicking on the main login page on top left, i see sometimes if you go via menu it can be broken
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Kafka 昇珉 Lee05:31:15 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
no luck..
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Kafka 昇珉 Lee05:31:26 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
did i lost my account?
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Bohdan V (Bitspark)05:35:11 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
What if you click recover account instead of clicking login with key?
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Daniel Schwarz (liondani)06:25:55 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
Only way I know you can send multiple in one tx is Stefans barter fuction. But the fees add up, so there is nothing to save I think.
Would it make sense to lower or eliminating the fees on next bts version?
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Stefan06:27:16 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
liondani
Would it make sense to lower or eliminating the fees on next bts version?
One could make burning.tokens very cheap
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Daniel Schwarz (liondani)06:27:38 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
This ^^^
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Daniel Schwarz (liondani)06:32:08 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
kingskingsking
we need some way to delete all the spam/dust
Another hack for now is to hide the shitassets...
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Kafka 昇珉 Lee07:54:50 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Oh I recovered it! never mind .. thanks for tip all
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Crypto Kong08:41:18 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
One could make burning.tokens very cheap
could we not just have a filter where anything under 0.5BTS value (dust) goes into hidden section
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Daniel Schwarz (liondani)08:58:06 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
could we not just have a filter where anything under 0.5BTS value (dust) goes into hidden section
This, but the option to insert any value we want.
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Crypto Kong09:01:44 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
yeah that would be better
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Kings09:55:28 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
yea as some of those seem to have value
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Kings09:55:33 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
but then u have 0.0000001 of it :D
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funkit 🐳➕🐝11:42:29 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
liondani
Would it make sense to lower or eliminating the fees on next bts version?
No, because that’s not where they are set. And you should know that.
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Jam PR12:21:06 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
thuleeee
will be bitshares something worth IF 1.There will be no working fiat gateways 2.All major points like food,energy,water,flat,medicine will be controlled by an institute which is against giving away money control ?
focus effort on the loopholes. in US there are major alliances that will legally protect the right of idividuals and businesses to create money to exchange for goods and services. Read the NY bitlicense. The loopholes are there. grassroots, getting people who are producing goods and services to accept crypto is the clearest legal path forward.
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Thule12:24:34 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
jambitshares
focus effort on the loopholes. in US there are major alliances that will legally protect the right of idividuals and businesses to create money to exchange for goods and services. Read the NY bitlicense. The loopholes are there. grassroots, getting people who are producing goods and services to accept crypto is the clearest legal path forward.
I'm sorry but you won't find any significant institution who is really going to support you. Noone is going to work against the UN expecially not questioning who holds control over money......
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Thule12:27:38 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
the US elite made wars (like the civil war in the US) about the control of money. North vs South was a war about who will control the money supply.North was fighting for FED and south to get it back under governmental control. Today's explanation that it was a war to fee black people from slavery was just a side effect.Lincoln was one of the biggest racist in the US describing black people as monkey but he had to use them to win the war for the fed. Like i said most people are not aware against whom they really fight.
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Thule12:29:44 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Also don't look for actual law.This law will be changed soon.There is already a global law guideline created by the UN
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Thule12:31:14 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Some people need also to realise countries like US,Australia ,part of Germany etc are already allowed to put people into prison without a court hearing ,evidences or offical accusation.
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Thule12:31:34 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Why do you think they have these laws?
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John 12:42:36 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
thuleeee
Why do you think they have these laws?
A woman working a wafflehouse making $5/hour is subject to a 2,500 page tax code - nothing to see here
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John 12:43:14 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
@thuleeee imo, those who know don't care and those who care don't know
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John 12:44:31 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
jambitshares
focus effort on the loopholes. in US there are major alliances that will legally protect the right of idividuals and businesses to create money to exchange for goods and services. Read the NY bitlicense. The loopholes are there. grassroots, getting people who are producing goods and services to accept crypto is the clearest legal path forward.
would love to hear more about bitlicense loopholes
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Mathew12:45:46 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
John
@thuleeee imo, those who know don't care and those who care don't know
I don't think anyone should be bound by T&Cs they could not reasonably be expected to read through and understand - the same rule should apply to laws
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John 12:51:52 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Nice thought, should
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Thule12:54:10 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
matle85
I don't think anyone should be bound by T&Cs they could not reasonably be expected to read through and understand - the same rule should apply to laws
99% of people don't even understand the diffrence between being human and a person. People are singing papers they completly don't understand and are giving jurisdiction over themself to any commerical court just confirming to be the person and to stand under UCC
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Mathew12:59:27 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
People need simple messages they can clearly understand to empower them. Hard to achieve when all the institutions, money and background power will do everything they can to avoid that.
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Thule13:00:45 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
matle85
People need simple messages they can clearly understand to empower them. Hard to achieve when all the institutions, money and background power will do everything they can to avoid that happening.
You are wrong
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Thule13:00:50 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
people are conditioned
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Thule13:01:02 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
means they will instantly take the message as some BS
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Thule13:01:26 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Every human is at a level conditioned even being unaware of it.
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Thule13:07:12 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
The reason why i'm talking about it is because it seems in EU some really alternative people are starting getting hunted by governments even they didn't broke any law.An example are natural herbs tradesman. Being attecked and hunted by prosecutors for selling natural herbs like some kind of grass. The explanation of the prosecutors is that this grass has to much chloryphill and should be sold as medecine which needs to be licensed. Of course its bs and just a pretext because else they would need to close any greengrocer for selling products with chlorophill. What i want to say you don't need to provide any real reason to get attacked.If you get on their radar they will just make up something and there is nothing you can do or anybody who is going to protect you. Thats the sad reality
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John 13:15:31 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Bts showing up
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George (Bitspark)13:18:58 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
John
Nice hope it goes well!
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Mathew13:21:30 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
John
Enjoy!
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Jam PR13:39:34 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
thuleeee
I'm sorry but you won't find any significant institution who is really going to support you. Noone is going to work against the UN expecially not questioning who holds control over money......
I agree with you, and that is why I believe that people releasing real disruptive cryto projects should protect themselves with annonymity. loopholes dry up, but protection for things like gift cards is support by huge retail gaints ... they and their lawyers are a free ally in the US. we should take advantage while it lasts. People trying to build banks may as well paint a target on their back. Gift card programs for small businesses, for example, are still a clear legal way for crypto applications to progress. That's just one, we should be creative. Also, it is time to develop blockchain tech for non-financial applications — private communication tools are one example, the need for this is huge in protecting crypto people from both govs and hackers
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Jam PR13:46:09 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
John
A woman working a wafflehouse making $5/hour is subject to a 2,500 page tax code - nothing to see here
One other project I wish I had the technical expertise to build is a blockchain identity management system ... to uniquely identify a person online. This would be extremely powerful if implemented in a way that gives people control over their own identity AND the data associated with that identity. It's non-financial (wink wink) and could be done in a way that still fits through legal. To do it right, one should remain anonymous tho. People's data is more valuable than their savings ... and it's being stolen from us every day
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Ryan DaoStreet14:34:24 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
George_Bitspark
Nice hope it goes well!
Ryan King and I are here emphasizing the strengths of bitshares to bring devs building useful dapps on the platform
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kenCode14:58:25 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
could we not just have a filter where anything under 0.5BTS value (dust) goes into hidden section
good idea, and anything that gets raindropped on you too, at least until its value exceeds that 0.5BTS
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Andy16:32:20 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
i have ltm account and when i go to claim a vesting balance it is showing a fee of 50.52054 i thought it is supposed to be 10 for ltm accounts?
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R16:36:55 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Andy
i have ltm account and when i go to claim a vesting balance it is showing a fee of 50.52054 i thought it is supposed to be 10 for ltm accounts?
You pay it but you get the discount sent to vesting
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Andy16:38:42 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
so i would get another 40 bts sent to my vesting balance which i would have to pay another 50 bts to take out ?
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Andy16:39:29 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
or is it added to the withdrawl?
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Thule16:42:31 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=27328.msg330082;topicseen#msg330082
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Slavi16:45:58 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
HitBTC is a weird exchange, imho. :)
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Thule16:52:43 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Their support sucks when they have issues thats correct.But its a real liquidty exchange with real volume
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Alex M - clockwork17:16:15 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Andy
so i would get another 40 bts sent to my vesting balance which i would have to pay another 50 bts to take out ?
it's sent to your vesting balance again
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Alex M - clockwork17:17:16 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
i guess if you were to completely stop using the platform its kinda silly
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Alex M - clockwork17:17:42 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
but the idea is that you always get more added to your vesting balance and withdraw every once in a while
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Crypto Kong17:18:42 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
whats the reason for fees going into vesting balance rather than just into your account?
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fav17:20:59 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Most fees don't move to vesting
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Thule17:21:40 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
thuleeee
Their support sucks when they have issues thats correct.But its a real liquidty exchange with real volume used by a lot of traders
HitBTC probably would be also closing the big spreads for all major bitcny pairs on DEX via arbitrage making the own market more attractiv again
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Crypto Kong17:21:43 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
the fees returned through referal or lifetime members, should have been more specific
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Stefan18:00:41 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
https://www.soompi.com/article/1323711wpp/bts-takes-boy-with-luv-9th-win-and-triple-crown-on-music-core-performances-by-nam-woohyun-nuest-oh-my-girl-and-more 😁
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funkit 🐳➕🐝18:12:56 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
BTS is hot https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf-UXhCsUwA
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Jay18:28:27 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Hello is there a network maker?
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Giorgi19:06:23 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Are we really in a bull market?
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Giorgi19:06:31 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Looks too... easy.
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Thule19:09:37 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
May i ask who is again playing with the USD OMO fund without permission ?
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Thule19:11:20 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
That smart guy just put again the OMO fund at a CR of 1.86
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Thule19:11:54 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Seeing the trading ability and risk i guess it can be only one person
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Crypto Kong19:12:03 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Lol
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Crypto Kong19:12:51 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
How do we expect people to bother voting when those in charge do what they want anyway...
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Thule19:13:11 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
based on the increase of BTS price today we can say that OMO fund was already being margin called which haven't been eaten
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Crypto Kong19:13:45 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
When was this new margin taken out?
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Thule19:14:19 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
between april 14 and 21
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Crypto Kong19:14:26 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
I thought this operation ceased after bitcrab lost hundreds of thousands of dollars
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Crypto Kong19:15:59 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Why were the funds not sent back to the reserve pool?
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Crypto Kong19:16:34 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
This kind of stuff is proper amateur hour
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Crypto Kong19:17:02 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Is the committee not responsible for managing this?
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Alundari19:20:18 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
How do we expect people to bother voting when those in charge do what they want anyway...
Hopefully they get us margin trading before all bitshares exchanges are left trading dust
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Thule19:21:21 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
committee is doing currently bad work in my eyes.They claim that is not payable work but nobody forced them to join as committee and they should at least uphold some level.
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Crypto Kong19:31:52 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
There should be a way to stop people from being able to vote for you or withdraw from committee so those who claim to not want it for whatever reason can make way for others who do
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funkit 🐳➕🐝19:44:37 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
There should be a way to stop people from being able to vote for you or withdraw from committee so those who claim to not want it for whatever reason can make way for others who do
Yeah. Let’s kick out the sock puppets. Withdraw from BEOS now an vote fav.
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Crypto Kong19:46:16 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Not quite sure how you managed to turn a conversation about community funds being inappropriately misused into your own personal BEOS vendetta but ok
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Stefan19:46:22 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
Yeah. Let’s kick out the sock puppets. Withdraw from BEOS now an vote fav.
Nothing to do with BEOS in case of SmartCoin marketing and OMO
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funkit 🐳➕🐝19:47:42 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
So you haven’t noticed the sock puppets? Ignorance.
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Thule19:48:09 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Lol
We should report to chinese community that BTS isn't raising because bitcrab went long 😁😜😁 /sarcasm
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Stefan19:49:18 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
So you haven’t noticed the sock puppets? Ignorance.
BEOS voting has been noticed, did not affect the committee decisions in the above cases though
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Crypto Kong19:49:23 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
I thought those funds were in a multi sig?
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Stefan19:50:42 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Without transparency in the decisions and changes in the workers the funds should not be paid out imo. In the case of restarting OMO I don't know what happened. Can it be through funding from.other sources?
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Thule19:51:02 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
cnytrader has 5 owner, threshold of 3 where 2 are no more committee and all chinese in Bitcrabs favour
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Crypto Kong19:54:59 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Either way the funds should have been returned, shouldn't be in this situation. Nothing I can do, waste of time even talking about it to be honest. If the other committee members aren't going to keep any eye on this stuff and keep each other honest and There has to bring this up because he happens to notice it... It doesn't say much for confidence in the system.
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Slavi19:56:13 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Where is a bitcrab on the photo? :)
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Stefan20:00:35 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Either way the funds should have been returned, shouldn't be in this situation. Nothing I can do, waste of time even talking about it to be honest. If the other committee members aren't going to keep an eye on this stuff and keep each other honest and Thule has to bring this up because he happens to notice it... It doesn't say much for confidence in the system.
I suggest a different escrow for next time ☃
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Crypto Kong20:03:49 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
If that was Fiat rather than crypto they would likely be getting arrested for unauthorised gambling with company funds. This isn't cool and should be taken seriously.
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Crypto Kong20:05:00 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
You can't just do what you want with community funds
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Crypto Kong20:05:14 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
It's an absolute disgrace
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Crypto Kong20:06:36 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
What next? We gonna allow worker funds to be used to speculate in markets?
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Crypto Kong20:07:10 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
It's crazy, they can't be allowed to get away with this
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da Lexx20:11:41 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
😂😂😂
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Stefan20:11:47 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
...
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Thule20:12:53 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
based on the short trade history on bts.ai it seems he also bought purposeful his own debt
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funkit 🐳➕🐝20:14:34 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
It just shows market operations should 1. not use margin 2. should be a liquidity bot.
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Crypto Kong20:15:14 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
3. Should be authorised
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Stefan20:17:51 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Did the OMO worker ever specify what happens with the funds afterwards?
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Thule20:18:04 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
no
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R20:18:21 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
Did the OMO worker ever specify what happens with the funds afterwards?
AFAIK they were depleted
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Stefan20:18:48 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
cmmob
AFAIK they were depleted
Where are the funds from then?
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R20:18:52 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Omo for norns? Less risk :p
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R20:19:02 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
Where are the funds from then?
From market fees iirc
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Stefan20:20:25 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
In that case the OMO funds were granted without the notion of returning and market fees are unspecified anyways
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Stefan20:21:04 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
I think it warrants proper digging what went where. Speculation is useless. Committee should disclose by themselves though imo
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Stefan20:21:41 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Anyways, BitSpark is wanting to step up for committee.
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Crypto Kong20:22:22 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
There was a discussion on bitshares talk about restarting OMO where the notion was clearly rejected. Also, permission was not given to loose all the funds either...
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Thule20:23:08 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
There was a discussion on bitshares talk about restarting OMO where the notion was clearly rejected. Also, permission was not given to loose all the funds either...
And a minimum CR of 3
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Crypto Kong20:23:42 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
I thought it was 4 but yeah they ain't even sticking to their own rules
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Thule20:24:14 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
yes it was 3 and 4 depending on market condition
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Crypto Kong20:24:50 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
If this isn't fixed I wouldn't be surprised to see them cause another GS
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fav20:25:37 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Soo it's gin tonic time, why the fuck are ya'll still here
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Crypto Kong20:26:02 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Are there more funds to add to the position?
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Thule20:26:05 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
I don't wanna attack bitcrab directly but the first time he also bought millions of BTS from his own debt when it got margin called so he wouldn't need to pay the 10% penelty fee
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Crypto Kong20:26:29 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
favdesu
Soo it's gin tonic time, why the fuck are ya'll still here
Good point. F this I'm out lol
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Stefan20:33:02 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
favdesu
Soo it's gin tonic time, why the fuck are ya'll still here
I'm listening if questions from Hackathon are.imcoming... Currently BUIDL Hackathon in Boston!
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kenCode20:34:20 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
kenCode
committee and proxies, some points to consider when evaluating who to vote for.. 1) country represented, 2) involved with a possible conflict of interest, 3) has a product to sell or get usage of, 4) has at least 5+ years of business building experience, 5) has experience with finance, 6) has experience with trading (considering we are also a dex), 7) has experience with law (especially crypto regulations and contracting), 8) genuinely wants Bitshares to succeed and has proven such, 9) has enough hours in their day to stay on top of most of the projects and topics being discussed on the forum and on telegram, etc... speaking of BitSpark, they definitely have my vote 💪🏼
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fav20:34:58 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
kenCode
committee and proxies, some points to consider when evaluating who to vote for.. 1) country represented, 2) involved with a possible conflict of interest, 3) has a product to sell or get usage of, 4) has at least 5+ years of business building experience, 5) has experience with finance, 6) has experience with trading (considering we are also a dex), 7) has experience with law (especially crypto regulations and contracting), 8) genuinely wants Bitshares to succeed and has proven such, 9) has enough hours in their day to stay on top of most of the projects and topics being discussed on the forum and on telegram, etc... speaking of BitSpark, they definitely have my vote 💪🏼
And my gin
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kenCode20:35:17 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
oh yeah, and 10) support fav's gin
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John 20:39:03 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
I think it warrants proper digging what went where. Speculation is useless. Committee should disclose by themselves though imo
There was no mandate on how to use the OMO funds once USD global settled. If the OMO was used it was without committee consensus. Each account has a multisignature scheme so it is easy to see what has happened on a technical level. I hope the community knows even if this is a gray area, this is still a public blockchain. You can discover what has happened and I hope the community will express its opinions/hold committee members accountable.
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John 20:40:08 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
thuleeee
That smart guy just put again the OMO fund at a CR of 1.86
but for reference which OMO do you mean? I just looked at committee-usdoperator
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Thule20:41:06 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
this one
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John 20:42:47 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
no tx since 4/21 - are we discussing the same thing?
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Thule20:43:01 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
yes
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Jonathan Bahai20:43:21 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
kenCode
committee and proxies, some points to consider when evaluating who to vote for.. 1) country represented, 2) involved with a possible conflict of interest, 3) has a product to sell or get usage of, 4) has at least 5+ years of business building experience, 5) has experience with finance, 6) has experience with trading (considering we are also a dex), 7) has experience with law (especially crypto regulations and contracting), 8) genuinely wants Bitshares to succeed and has proven such, 9) has enough hours in their day to stay on top of most of the projects and topics being discussed on the forum and on telegram, etc... speaking of BitSpark, they definitely have my vote 💪🏼
Speaking for myself: 1. Canada 2. None 3. None 4. 25+yrs 5. Yup..public markets even 6. Yup 7. Yup... much more than most due to founding blockchain public company which btw promoted bitshares to Canadian financial institutions. 8. Yup 9. I'm always here.. though forums I have trouble turning too these days.
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John 20:44:35 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
thuleeee
yes
okay, this was addressed around that date. when I saw this talk again today I became frustrated thinking a committee member was using unilateral discretion with OMO again. Glad that's not the case.
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funkit 🐳➕🐝20:45:31 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Well. I wouldn't start an uproar over the ~1 mill in that account. Alex and Fabian are cosigners.
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Thule20:46:14 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
John
okay, this was addressed around that date. when I saw this talk again today I became frustrated thinking a committee member was using unilateral discretion with OMO again. Glad that's not the case.
I doubt the committee had the right to decide on that when there was a voting which clearly denied to reactivate the OMO fund
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funkit 🐳➕🐝20:49:12 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
I wonder if it was used to revive the USD. Thats what it looks like to me.
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John 20:49:39 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
thuleeee
I doubt the committee had the right to decide on that when there was a voting which clearly denied to reactivate the OMO fund
exactly right - the OMO should not have been used.. If you look at how the OMO was designed multisig it's important to note the "committee" as a group has nothing to do with it
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John 20:50:28 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
some individuals felt strongly about it, then it was running, then it failed. Good lesson for us all.
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Thule20:51:02 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Isn't the committee responsible to keep these accounts safe from abuse ?
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John 20:51:50 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
when you make an account with 1/3 multisig and only 3/11 committee members on it - what can the "committee" do?
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John 20:52:12 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
we allowed the entire project to be consolidated in a single key signer
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John 20:52:25 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
when I saw "we" I mean BTS
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Thule20:52:55 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
John
some individuals felt strongly about it, then it was running, then it failed. Good lesson for us all.
You gave a 1/3 multisig to somebody who already broke community consensus in the past
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John 20:53:16 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
thuleeee
You gave a 1/3 multisig to somebody who already broke community consensus in the past
The community allowed this yes
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Thule20:53:39 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
no the community myself included requested to take these funds away from bitcrabs control
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John 20:53:39 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Most this information is public.
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Thule20:54:56 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Bitcrab broke community consensus and lost millions of BTS which should be enough reason to limit his ability on these funds without a control function.
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John 20:55:10 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
thuleeee
Bitcrab broke community consensus and lost millions of BTS which should be enough reason to limit his ability on these funds without a control function.
how
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John 20:55:17 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
limit
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John 20:55:22 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
I think the votes speak for themselves. If the committee does a bad job I hope you vote us all out and replace us with people to carry out community will.
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Thule20:55:39 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
make it a 2/3 multi sig so xeroc or alex need to approve his actions.
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John 20:55:54 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
I hope stakeholders will not make the mistake of speaking about committee as a monolithic structure
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John 20:56:06 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
thuleeee
make it a 2/3 multi sig so xeroc or alex need to approve his actions.
great idea
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Thule20:56:37 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
on cnytrader account 2 of 5 owners aren't even committee......Shouldn't there be an update ?
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Stefan20:59:06 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
John
I hope stakeholders will not make the mistake of speaking about committee as a monolithic structure
I don't. I think committee alltogether is doing a good job, minus the workers. Committee simply shouldn't have workers imo, and if it has, all committee members need to confirm taking on that responsibility which hasn't happened for either workers I think. It's hiding behind committee credibility
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John 20:59:29 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
I don't. I think committee alltogether is doing a good job, minus the workers. Committee simply shouldn't have workers imo, and if it has, all committee members need to confirm taking on that responsibility which hasn't happened for either workers I think. It's hiding behind committee credibility
well said
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John 21:02:07 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
The OMO could have just had committee-account signer on it (unless devs know a technical obstacle to that) the gains of centralizing from 11 to 2 is not significant
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kenCode21:06:46 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
JBahai
Speaking for myself: 1. Canada 2. None 3. None 4. 25+yrs 5. Yup..public markets even 6. Yup 7. Yup... much more than most due to founding blockchain public company which btw promoted bitshares to Canadian financial institutions. 8. Yup 9. I'm always here.. though forums I have trouble turning too these days.
💪👍
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Alison Wayne21:50:49 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Hey
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Thule22:07:34 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
Somebody nows if you can deposit BTC using the BTS++ app ?
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Alison Wayne22:32:15 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
LETTER TO BITCOIN A. K. A (BTC) dear Btc show is traders and investors love by raising to 10-20k$, you know some month ago some people said some piece of shit that y'all not gonna go up again.. Please prove them wrong... Lol 😂 💃💃💃 let me dance breakdance... Smiles full ma face..
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Stefan22:45:43 - 11 May 2019 [UTC]
thuleeee
Somebody knows if you can deposit BTC using the BTS++ app ?
@btsplusplus
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Kings01:31:55 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
why does it ask me for COMUCEEDS as fee
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Kings01:32:02 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
i dont have that shittoken
K
Kings01:32:06 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
any way to change fee token?
K
Kings01:32:14 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
i want ot cancel some old orders
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Thomas William01:53:34 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
http://t.me/star_shine_bot?start=871334529
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Mr.Ocean01:54:30 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
cmmob
Fees don't go to null-account, nobody owns it
I found a null account, what does it do? And where the fee goes then? Are they burnt? Certainly not.
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R01:54:51 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
I_m_Ocean
I found a null account, what does it do? And where the fee goes then? Are they burnt? Certainly not.
if it's not 'null-account' then it's not the null account.
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Nitiya Muangsuwan03:37:33 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Is the committee not responsible for managing this?
Become active on forums or it’s gone in wind
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Deex Listing04:28:27 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
tigernid
Become active on forums or it’s gone in wind
Which kind of.forums
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R06:16:09 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
deexlisting
Which kind of.forums
Bitsharestalk
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George (Bitspark)07:02:25 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
kenCode
committee and proxies, some points to consider when evaluating who to vote for.. 1) country represented, 2) involved with a possible conflict of interest, 3) has a product to sell or get usage of, 4) has at least 5+ years of business building experience, 5) has experience with finance, 6) has experience with trading (considering we are also a dex), 7) has experience with law (especially crypto regulations and contracting), 8) genuinely wants Bitshares to succeed and has proven such, 9) has enough hours in their day to stay on top of most of the projects and topics being discussed on the forum and on telegram, etc... speaking of BitSpark, they definitely have my vote 💪🏼
thanks ! FYI still looking for more votes to get us over the line 😄
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Crypto Kong07:09:52 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
George_Bitspark
thanks ! FYI still looking for more votes to get us over the line 😄
Have suggested in https://t.me/beosvoting that the BEOS team consider you guys :)
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Alex M - clockwork07:13:53 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
George_Bitspark
thanks ! FYI still looking for more votes to get us over the line 😄
voted
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George (Bitspark)07:14:23 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
clockworkgr
voted
thanks 😎👍
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funkit 🐳➕🐝07:21:44 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
Good to hear George. Should suit you fine.
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Sophia Robert10:04:03 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
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Nina11:11:04 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
Hey! Well, I would like to share my opinion about this Chimera channel - @TheDigitalChimera - which was advertised everywhere. At first I was highly doubtful, and I thought this was another pump and dump group. But it turns out they are a legit group since I made some good profit with them actually and they do document EVERY trade in their public sheet. I didnt saw any pump or dump calls, so far.
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Kapil11:22:29 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
All of sudden returning this issue Please if anyone can help, urgent:(
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FarmerD12:34:09 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
kapilpatel21
All of sudden returning this issue Please if anyone can help, urgent:(
What's the issue? Please try at @btswallethelp
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Darion Miller13:08:14 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
kapilpatel21
All of sudden returning this issue Please if anyone can help, urgent:(
What is your issue?
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nutela14:06:16 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
favdesu
I'm not a big fan on bancor, and I doubt it'll incentivize creation of stablecoins that way
I just moved some of my EOS to DAI. Does that answer your question?
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fav14:29:33 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
I just moved some of my EOS to DAI. Does that answer your question?
No
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nutela14:30:28 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
favdesu
No
Guess you need more time then huh?
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nutela14:31:15 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
Isn’t LiquidApps also from Bancor?
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nutela14:32:46 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
Trying to find out how their key custody works. You can use Scatter but there’s problems. Trezor and another hw wallet Ledger?
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nutela14:33:36 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
And their support works on Sunday 😂👌
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Kapil14:35:21 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
Darion Miller
What is your issue?
Not generating block
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Darion Miller14:36:26 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
kapilpatel21
Not generating block
Sorry about that when did it started?
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kenCode15:27:59 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
the bots are talking to each other now..? 😳
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Wehrrr15:32:22 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
Yes
GW
Grace Walker16:54:49 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
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Elena Laura23:08:58 - 12 May 2019 [UTC]
Hello guys
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bench01:27:35 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Itsy-BiTSy-QR-Code Vers. 2
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Alice Belaïdi04:46:01 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
https://t.me/joinchat/LDfkeRXF4tKdo5KPbAy6ng
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Alice Belaïdi04:47:01 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
https://t.me/joinchat/LDfkeRXF4tKdo5KPbAy6ng
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fav05:19:05 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Hi
CG
Cherry Garcia05:23:25 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Hello
CG
Cherry Garcia05:24:47 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
I am having trouble restoring a wallet running the core client. wondering if anyone can help me out
CG
Cherry Garcia05:24:49 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
?
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Stefan05:30:17 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Cherry Garcia
I am having trouble restoring a wallet running the core client. wondering if anyone can help me out
@btswallethelp
CG
Cherry Garcia05:31:07 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Thank you @sschiessl
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JL @iBercryptodreams07:09:05 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
There is no important news for BTS? Why is he dying slowly?
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Crypto Kong07:26:42 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
JLiBercrypto
There is no important news for BTS? Why is he dying slowly?
It's an elaborate ploy to make everyone sell their precious BTS
IC
Ivan Cassiano07:29:32 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Hello
DS
Daniel Schwarz (liondani)07:43:16 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
JLiBercrypto
There is no important news for BTS? Why is he dying slowly?
Maybe because we have about 10 different bts related channels and it gives you a false feeling....
JB
Jonathan Bahai07:48:53 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
I'm heading to Consensus right now.. anyone else from here going to be there?
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Stefan07:50:34 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
JBahai
I'm heading to Consensus right now.. anyone else from here going to be there?
Ryan is gonna be there, but not through core worker iirc
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JL @iBercryptodreams07:52:25 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
But...
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Stefan08:10:26 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
JLiBercrypto
But...
Hm?
JB
Jonathan Bahai08:21:55 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
Ryan is gonna be there, but not through core worker iirc
Oh cool.. will msg him and see if we can connect
J@
JL @iBercryptodreams08:48:48 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
Hm?
🚀
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Stefan08:59:50 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
JLiBercrypto
🚀
🌖
MK
Max Kengale10:22:10 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Get paytm cash https://getdatagenie.com/i/?id=4801080 by downlaoding
MK
Max Kengale10:22:56 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Rs 100
MK
Max Kengale10:23:17 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
By downloading
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Michel13:34:06 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
john_on_chain
@ryanRfox and I are here emphasizing the strengths of bitshares to bring devs building useful dapps on the platform
👍
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Mr.Ocean14:46:05 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
cmmob
if it's not 'null-account' then it's not the null account.
Pls be more specific? I can see Null account in there.. this also makes me belief strong there is account type that differentiates lifetime members from others.
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R14:54:43 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
I_m_Ocean
Pls be more specific? I can see Null account in there.. this also makes me belief strong there is account type that differentiates lifetime members from others.
You be more specific, if you're looking at an user which is named anything other than "null-account" then you're looking at an user account not a burn account. You can look up ltm ownership easily, nothing secret about that.
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Darion Miller17:35:02 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
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Molly Phillips17:50:43 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Guys did anyone heard anything about it? Do you think they really planning to pay earnings to investors? Here is the post: https://t.me/chimpionio/102
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Yobit 675619:07:30 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Hey guys, jut finished the first part of the dev of a mutual fund on Bitshares! I need for anyone who has some time to try to test it. For now itis just a Bitshares account which is divided on independent subaccounts on which you can deposit, withdraw or trade independently. Next step is integrating dexbot https://cryptobridge.io/mutual_fund thx for the help and any suggestions
Y6
Yobit 675619:08:12 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
tou can just play with 5 BTS to try it out
J@
JL @iBercryptodreams19:09:36 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
🌖
👌
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fav19:43:50 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Yobit5678
Hey guys, jut finished the first part of the dev of a mutual fund on Bitshares! I need for anyone who has some time to try to test it. For now itis just a Bitshares account which is divided on independent subaccounts on which you can deposit, withdraw or trade independently. Next step is integrating dexbot https://cryptobridge.io/mutual_fund thx for the help and any suggestions
Is this a scam imoersonating crypto Bridge?
VR
Vanessa Ray19:46:11 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Rise up and attack the day with enthusiasm... Pm me 👉bitcion investment..
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Abit More19:51:42 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
kingskingsking
any way to change fee token?
Deposit some BTS
K
Kings19:52:01 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
i have BTS
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Kings19:52:05 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
but it choses compuceeds
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Abit More19:52:41 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Lol
AM
Abit More19:52:56 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
What client are you using?
AM
Abit More19:53:05 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Looks like an old bug
AM
Abit More19:53:11 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Years old
AM
Abit More19:55:18 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
kingskingsking
i have BTS
Hi?
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Kings19:55:30 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
openledter :D
VR
Vanessa Ray19:56:41 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Everyone has the fire. But only the champions know when to ignite the spark.😎 Pm me 👉bitcion investment
AM
Abit More19:58:18 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Not fixed.
AM
Abit More19:58:27 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Issue #1117
AM
Abit More19:58:59 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
@sschiessl
AM
Abit More19:59:42 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
kingskingsking
openledter :D
you really have BTS?
K
Kings20:01:24 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
yes
K
Kings20:01:42 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
and i DOTN have compuceeds
K
Kings20:01:57 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
i have 100 tokens but not fuckin compuceeds
AM
Abit More20:03:01 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
God knows
AM
Abit More20:03:39 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Try another wallet?
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Kings20:04:19 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
and i have 10k BTS
K
Kings20:04:21 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
ok
AM
Abit More20:04:27 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Shoe me the screenshot
AM
Abit More20:04:33 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Where is your BTS
K
Kings20:05:47 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
so u say im making this up?
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Marconmars20:05:48 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Hello. Is there a bitshares dev telegram channel?
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Abit More20:06:08 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
kingskingsking
so u say im making this up?
No, but looks like a stupid bug
AM
Abit More20:06:30 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
If you still have BTS in account
AM
Abit More20:06:56 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
marconmars
Hello. Is there a bitshares dev telegram channel?
yes
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Abit More20:07:09 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Who are you?
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Marconmars20:08:47 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
hi, im marc. i started so investigations and wondering why the graphene technology isnt activily deployed
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Marconmars20:09:13 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
...as far as i understood, bitshares uses the graphene technology as a toolkit
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Marconmars20:10:35 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
...there is the link to the github repro:https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene
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Marconmars20:10:55 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
there is the link to the github repro: https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene
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Abit More20:11:07 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
There are lots of blockchains running the technology
AM
Abit More20:11:31 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
But the original GitHub repository is abandoned
AM
Abit More20:11:42 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
At least not maintained
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Marconmars20:12:03 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
sound resonable
AM
Abit More20:12:05 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
So all projects stopped linking back to it
AM
Abit More20:12:53 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-core
AM
Abit More20:13:17 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
You can check how different and similar
AM
Abit More20:13:31 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Between the two repositories
AM
Abit More20:15:20 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Btw you are not allowed to post link in this channel because you are new
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Marconmars20:15:23 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
so there is no dependency to a graphene lib anymore
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Marconmars20:15:44 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
thats okai 🙂
AM
Abit More20:16:33 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
marconmars
so there is no dependency to a graphene lib anymore
We still claim we are a graphene chain
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Abit More20:17:26 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Just let you know, the old repository has lots of bugs so don't use it
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Marconmars20:18:16 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
bitshares/bitshares-core has much more impressive contributions!
Y6
Yobit 675620:18:43 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
favdesu
Is this a scam imoersonating crypto Bridge?
Lol no scam i'm helping cryptobridge
Y6
Yobit 675620:19:08 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
You can see that the site is on their official twitter
AM
Abit More20:20:35 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
marconmars
bitshares/bitshares-core has much more impressive contributions!
Are you a C++ developer?
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Marconmars20:21:23 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Unfortunatey not. JS & ruby
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Abit More20:23:00 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
You may have interest in the UI repository then
AM
Abit More20:23:18 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
We don't use Ruby
AM
Abit More20:24:35 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui
AM
Abit More20:25:04 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Try https://wallet.bitshares.org
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Marconmars20:25:05 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
I just wanted to know actively bitshares is developed in general
AM
Abit More20:27:01 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Ok
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Stefan21:10:41 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
marconmars
I just wanted to know how actively bitshares is developed in general
Yes a lot!
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Sandra Wills22:42:45 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
When I first started I was skeptical I don't know if this was the right program. The more testimonies I saw made me confirm is genuine and from that moment my experience has been amazing.i have gone from homeless to owning my own mansion.i want to say,stop thinking and join this great company 💯 best. Instant withdraw http://cryptospro.co.uk/?ref=Sandra Follow us on telegram @ https://t.me/joinchat/JcKkvhcOceQurHlOJ32ZCg
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A22:44:11 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
What's actively being worked on in the bitshares roadmap? In layman's terms. Is it incremental improvement of existing functionality or are there some market differentiators? None of the BEOS stuff please.
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kenCode22:51:16 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
A
What's actively being worked on in the bitshares roadmap? In layman's terms. Is it incremental improvement of existing functionality or are there some market differentiators? None of the BEOS stuff please.
expanding our htlc support
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kenCode22:51:35 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
atomic swaps with multiple chains
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kenCode22:52:26 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
i ithink a few guys are working on an atomic order book too
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A23:02:04 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Atomic swaps and order book is a differentiator
A
A23:02:09 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Thanks
DK
Doris Kal23:03:53 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Hello anyone here
DK
Doris Kal23:03:55 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Hello anyone here
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Robbie23:10:39 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
DualMine Cloud Bitcoin: t.me/dualmine_cloud_bitcoin_bot?start=778698682
SD
Satoshi Deexomoto deex.exchange23:20:38 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Hi all
SD
Satoshi Deexomoto deex.exchange23:22:47 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Deex have launched decentralized otc, as we were announcing earlier. At the moment on eth smart contracts. Soon will make graphene based system please have a look and provide some feedback if possible: https://deex.blog/en/news/launch-of-the-deex-otc-trading-platform/
SD
Satoshi Deexomoto deex.exchange23:30:52 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Brother! You???
SD
Satoshi Deexomoto deex.exchange23:30:59 - 13 May 2019 [UTC]
Lost you in 2010
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Sandra Wills00:01:21 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
When I first started I was skeptical I don't know if this was the right program. The more testimonies I saw made me confirm is genuine and from that moment my experience has been amazing.i have gone from homeless to owning my own mansion.i want to say,stop thinking and join this great company 💯 best. Instant withdraw http://cryptospro.co.uk/?ref=Sandra Follow us on telegram @ https://t.me/joinchat/JcKkvhcOceQurHlOJ32ZCg
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Quir (Binance Angel) 🇵🇭01:38:51 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Hello guys got question
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Quir (Binance Angel) 🇵🇭01:39:56 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Is the bitshare and openledger dex just the same coin or are they different?
B
bench01:40:57 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
quinonesquir
Is the bitshare and openledger dex just the same coin or are they different?
OL is a gateway build on top of Bitshares
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Quir (Binance Angel) 🇵🇭01:41:20 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Is OL a coin?
B
bench01:41:58 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
quinonesquir
Is OL a coin?
they have a own coin called OBITS
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Quir (Binance Angel) 🇵🇭01:44:24 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Thanks
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Satoshi Deexomoto deex.exchange01:55:22 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
And deex.exchange has its own coin deex
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Quir (Binance Angel) 🇵🇭02:03:56 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
satoshideexomoto
And deex.exchange has its own coin deex
Lemme check that
BS
Billy Stones02:39:35 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Hi
BS
Billy Stones02:40:26 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
An admin should please pm me
KL
Kristin Low03:34:29 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Does anyone have the contact details for the person that wrote the awesome documentation on how.bitshares.works? Looking to engage them for something!
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Stefan03:49:33 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Kristin_Low
Does anyone have the contact details for the person that wrote the awesome documentation on how.bitshares.works? Looking to engage them for something!
@tsugimoto transitioned it into the new repository from the old docs, original authors I don't know, but @xeroc probably does (since he is one of them)
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Stefan03:50:08 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
satoshideexomoto
Deex have launched decentralized otc, as we were announcing earlier. At the moment on eth smart contracts. Soon will make graphene based system please have a look and provide some feedback if possible: https://deex.blog/en/news/launch-of-the-deex-otc-trading-platform/
Built on HTLC?
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Stefan03:51:08 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
A
What's actively being worked on in the bitshares roadmap? In layman's terms. Is it incremental improvement of existing functionality or are there some market differentiators? None of the BEOS stuff please.
BSIP 40 is coming for next upgrade, ILP is also being looked into.
KL
Kristin Low03:51:38 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
@tsugimoto transitioned it into the new repository from the old docs, original authors I don't know, but @xeroc probably does (since he is one of them)
Thank you!
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kenCode04:22:54 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
BSIP 40 is coming for next upgrade, ILP is also being looked into.
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Stefan04:39:38 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
The marketing worker (https://www.bitshares.foundation/workers/2019-02-marketing-interviews-articles-and-visibility) is fully funded. Thanks for all the support, you can now unvote it to make room for others!
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kenCode04:48:29 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
satoshideexomoto
Deex have launched decentralized otc, as we were announcing earlier. At the moment on eth smart contracts. Soon will make graphene based system please have a look and provide some feedback if possible: https://deex.blog/en/news/launch-of-the-deex-otc-trading-platform/
atomic swaps too? 😳 htlc/accs would be ideal 💪
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Satoshi Deexomoto deex.exchange05:24:00 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
kenCode
atomic swaps too? 😳 htlc/accs would be ideal 💪
Soon
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Satoshi Deexomoto deex.exchange05:24:05 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Studying it
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Stefan05:33:16 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
satoshideexomoto
Soon
How do you currently do OTC trustlessly?
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George (Bitspark)05:34:00 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
How do you currently do OTC trustlessly?
using barter on bitshares-UI 😎
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Mason Gu05:56:48 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
satoshideexomoto
Hi all
Now you use eth smart contracts. How on you realize it on graphene?
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Alex M - clockwork06:10:48 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
What's wrong with barter feature?
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Fabian Schuh06:11:58 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Kristin_Low
Does anyone have the contact details for the person that wrote the awesome documentation on how.bitshares.works? Looking to engage them for something!
Most of the content of that page was written by me some years ago as part of paid documentation worker by the BitShares DAC. Today, there are much more people involved in those docs.
KL
Kristin Low06:12:22 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
xeroc
Most of the content of that page was written by me some years ago as part of paid documentation worker by the BitShares DAC. Today, there are much more people involved in those docs.
I see, thank you for the context!
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Satoshi Deexomoto deex.exchange07:21:08 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Mason Gu
Now you use eth smart contracts. How on you realize it on graphene?
As I mentioned, at the moment only eth on smart contracts. I know, shame on us, but need to start something with. Soon sure graphene with barter and escrow
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Mathew07:34:17 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
😉
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Mathew07:34:34 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
It would be great to see the barter function implemented too. Works pretty well.
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Satoshi Deexomoto deex.exchange07:49:00 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Will make our best
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Mathew07:50:19 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
satoshideexomoto
Will make our best
😃
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Satoshi Deexomoto deex.exchange07:50:23 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
How do you currently do OTC trustlessly?
We provide it with decentralised technology based on smart contracts within blockchain Ethereum. Every transaction goes peer to peer with no intermediaries. The role of intermediary is taken by escrow smart contract that are programmed with having no human access except only arbitration in case of disputes. However, arbitrators have no access to ETH, but only dispute resolution and ETH moving between counterparties
IK
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i am Kim-Jong Un08:24:08 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Any update, please admin tell me about project,
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R08:27:21 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
iamkinjongun
Any update, please admin tell me about project,
Do your own research
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i am Kim-Jong Un08:28:13 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
cmmob
Do your own research
Ok admin
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Alex M - clockwork08:42:30 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
lol
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fav09:12:56 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Ok
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Milena Nuna09:16:20 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
cmmob
Do your own research
Exactly 👍
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JL @iBercryptodreams09:20:10 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
BEOS is live?
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Mathew09:36:48 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
JLiBercrypto
BEOS is live?
https://t.me/officialbeos
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Billy Stones09:40:00 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
https://t.me/joinchat/K68ADBU389kYTSSk_SwaZA
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Billy Stones09:41:32 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
https://t.me/joinchat/K68ADBU389kYTSSk_SwaZA
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Billy Stones09:41:32 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Be part of the Replace energy coin
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Varun Goyal09:47:14 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Blockchain Weekly – Trends in Blockchain https://blog.quillhash.com/blockchain-weekly-trends-in-blockchain-1/
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Alex M - clockwork10:51:34 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
congrats @George_Bitspark
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Mathew10:59:43 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
clockworkgr
congrats @George_Bitspark
Committee?
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Alex M - clockwork10:59:53 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Yap
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Mathew11:00:18 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Great stuff, congrats George and the team!
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Knl11:21:07 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4AUkSBdDTOY
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Alex M - clockwork11:51:27 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
on another interesting note
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Alex M - clockwork11:51:39 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
top witness (abit) nearing a 1b BTS vote approval
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funkit 🐳➕🐝11:56:25 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Hardly abits fault but it just underline how fucked vote buying is.
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Mathew12:00:54 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
clockworkgr
top witness (abit) nearing a 1b BTS vote approval
If this carries on he'll have to change his name to alot...
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lee Z12:24:08 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Where to download Mac version client
LZ
lee Z12:24:12 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Where to download Mac version client
LZ
lee Z12:24:13 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Where to download Mac version client
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Fabian Schuh12:28:49 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
matle85
If this carries on he'll have to change his name to alot...
loooool
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JL @iBercryptodreams12:29:32 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
matle85
https://t.me/officialbeos
I am banned
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JL @iBercryptodreams12:37:39 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Praveen
https://notesnewtech.com/2019/05/13/introduction-to-cosmo-blockchain-network-part-2/
Cosmo? Is Cosmos not Cosmo
BV
Bờ Lốc Chênh Việt Nam12:44:40 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
JLiBercrypto
Cosmo? Is Cosmos not Cosmo
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/cosmos/
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Bờ Lốc Chênh Việt Nam12:45:04 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
JLiBercrypto
Cosmo? Is Cosmos not Cosmo
Here https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/cosmos/
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Bờ Lốc Chênh Việt Nam12:45:25 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Cosmos with atom tokens
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JL @iBercryptodreams12:52:53 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
🚀
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Praveen12:53:50 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Yes its cosmos
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Bờ Lốc Chênh Việt Nam12:56:28 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
JLiBercrypto
🚀
How to integrate Bitshares to cosmos for interchange , don't you know?
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JL @iBercryptodreams13:09:03 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Easy use Tendermint
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Asmodat San13:10:27 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
https://medium.com/@patrick.wieth/cosmos-tendermint-explained-for-real-idiots-ab4305cbb41
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Bờ Lốc Chênh Việt Nam13:17:06 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
JLiBercrypto
Easy use Tendermint
Can you give more instructions? If deloy Bitshares be a hub on Cosmos, it will become the carrier for most others tokens. Pls clarify
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bitProfessor13:55:43 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
@clockworkgr hi ,are u clockwork?
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Alex M - clockwork13:55:54 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
yes
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bitProfessor13:58:35 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
clockworkgr
yes
Your script may have problems,as a witness, someone responded. I haven't studied it yet.
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Alex M - clockwork13:58:53 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
bitProfessor
Your script may have problems,as a witness, someone responded. I haven't studied it yet.
Ive been wokring on it most of the day
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Alex M - clockwork13:59:02 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
ZBs API started timing out for me
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Alex M - clockwork13:59:05 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
dunno why
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Alex M - clockwork13:59:11 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
and it's made it really unstable
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Alex M - clockwork13:59:21 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
so trying to adjust
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bitProfessor13:59:50 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
clockworkgr
yes
They asked me to remind you.
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Alex M - clockwork14:00:12 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
would go smoother if I didnt have to respond in teh forums every few minutes
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bitProfessor14:01:21 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
clockworkgr
would go smoother if I didnt have to respond in teh forums every few minutes
Okay, I see. Thank you for your work.
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Alex M - clockwork14:01:31 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
bitProfessor
They asked me to remind you.
thnx,,, just gotta figure out why ZB stopped responding
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Alex M - clockwork14:02:00 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
without ZB and since I've removed the fake volume sources (coinegg/cointiger etc)
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Alex M - clockwork14:02:13 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
feed becomes very jumpy
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Alex M - clockwork14:02:23 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
because it doesn't average out properly
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bitProfessor14:04:58 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
clockworkgr
because it doesn't average out properly
Sorry, I can't help you. Maybe abit can help you.
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Alex M - clockwork14:06:30 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Nah it's good...I'll sort it out
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Alex M - clockwork14:10:52 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
bitProfessor
Okay, I see. Thank you for your work.
you can also find me on wechat witness group if needed
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bitProfessor14:11:46 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
clockworkgr
you can also find me on wechat witness group if needed
Ok
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kenCode15:29:37 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
JLiBercrypto
I am banned
Me too. Ask them why..
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Thule15:35:47 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Its seems zb did some bigger changes yesterday
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Alex M - clockwork15:38:55 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
?
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JL @iBercryptodreams15:40:08 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Danang_crypto_teller
Can you give more instructions? If deloy Bitshares be a hub on Cosmos, it will become the carrier for most others tokens. Pls clarify
https://tendermint.com/docs/introduction/introduction.html
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JL @iBercryptodreams15:40:31 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Danang_crypto_teller
Can you give more instructions? If deloy Bitshares be a hub on Cosmos, it will become the carrier for most others tokens. Pls clarify
I can't send the link
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JL @iBercryptodreams15:41:12 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Danang_crypto_teller
Can you give more instructions? If deloy Bitshares be a hub on Cosmos, it will become the carrier for most others tokens. Pls clarify
But is there going to be a bts zone in Cosmos? that would be awesome? Where did you see?
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JL @iBercryptodreams15:41:57 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Tendermint multilanguage is very easy implementation for all codes
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R16:07:08 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
That would be pretty cool, write up a bsip?
JK
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Oleksii Mirniy17:40:54 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
I can not get into my wallet on the computer what to do ???
SD
Satoshi Deexomoto deex.exchange17:42:18 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
This is dex, running on nodes, so time must by sync
SD
Satoshi Deexomoto deex.exchange17:42:25 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Try www.deex.exchange
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Oleksii Mirniy17:44:30 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
nothing works. I have not been able to get into my wallet for half a year
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R17:47:34 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
cryptobigbog
nothing works. I have not been able to get into my wallet for half a year
did you forget your password?
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Oleksii Mirniy17:48:39 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
cmmob
did you forget your password?
no
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R17:48:50 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
then raise an issue on github?
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Thule17:48:53 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
you need to sync your comp
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Oleksii Mirniy17:49:04 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
I do not even show the login and password where to enter
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R17:49:21 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
cryptobigbog
I do not even show the login and password where to enter
install the latest version, or try a different web browser?
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Oleksii Mirniy17:49:27 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
thuleeee
you need to sync your comp
nothing is synchronized.
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R17:49:47 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
As hule says, check your computer time is synced to their time servers
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Thule17:50:05 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
cryptobigbog
nothing is synchronized.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPEKM3zcOaA
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Oleksii Mirniy17:50:23 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Please give a link to the latest version.
JP
Jasmine Patterson17:50:46 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Guys did anyone heard anything about it? Do you think they really planning to pay earnings to investors? Here is the post: https://t.me/chimpionio/102
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Oleksii Mirniy18:03:04 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
where can i download the latest version ?? give me a link
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Gamx18:04:46 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
https://bitshares.org/download/
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kenCode18:05:52 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
cryptobigbog
where can i download the latest version ?? give me a link
https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/releases or for android, try BiTSy.. www.BiTSy-wallet.com
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Oleksii Mirniy18:13:17 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
installed the latest version, the white screen shows and everything
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Oleksii Mirniy18:14:18 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
I understand, I lost my coins.
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funkit 🐳➕🐝18:16:35 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
cryptobigbog
I understand, I lost my coins.
No you did not.
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Oleksii Mirniy18:19:59 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
How else can you get into your wallet? Nothing happens
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funkit 🐳➕🐝18:20:53 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Which OS is it? I dont recognise it sinc I use macs.
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Stefan18:25:29 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
cryptobigbog
How else can you get into your wallet? Nothing happens
Come to @btswallethelp and describe your setup and problem, and what you have tried
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Abit More18:25:36 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
`onboarding.bitshares.foundation register beos-update 27 minutes ago`
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Abit More18:25:49 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
I guess it will be used for scam
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Stefan18:26:07 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
Yea saw a couple of those, blacklisted also
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Joe, Son of Bob, Uncle to Tom18:29:13 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
cryptobigbog
How else can you get into your wallet? Nothing happens
Clear cache, Close un-needed applications, reload BitShares. I think maybe you lack enough memory too...
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kenCode18:37:14 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
cryptobigbog
installed the latest version, the white screen shows and everything
that white screen looks like a connection issue. run a speedtest on your home internet connection. or connect it to a hotspot from your mobile data connection.
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Oleksii Mirniy18:38:10 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
How to withdraw Eth from the wallet ??
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kenCode18:38:22 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
or if you have your brainkey or .bin file with password, try the BiTSy wallet
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kenCode18:39:26 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
cryptobigbog
How to withdraw Eth from the wallet ??
transfer/send it to your gateway provider such as bitspark or openledger
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Oleksii Mirniy18:41:51 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
does not want to take my Etherwallet
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Joe, Son of Bob, Uncle to Tom18:42:15 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
rut roh...
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funkit 🐳➕🐝18:42:25 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
cryptobigbog
How to withdraw Eth from the wallet ??
Are you Russian speaking?
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kenCode18:44:40 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
cryptobigbog
How to withdraw Eth from the wallet ??
open.eth? bridge.eth? rudex.eth? the bitshares wallet does not hold off-chain coins for you like ethereum.
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funkit 🐳➕🐝18:45:41 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
I directed him to the Rudex group.
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kenCode18:45:50 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
👍
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funkit 🐳➕🐝19:29:45 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
I tried to join the test net but didn’t succeed. Is that a faucet issue or something else? The reason for signing up is there are some requests for test tokens and it would probably be easier to just dish them out whenever there is need for them.
DZ
Danyal Zafar23:11:17 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
https://t.me/joinchat/LDfkeRXF4tKdo5KPbAy6ng
DZ
Danyal Zafar23:12:00 - 14 May 2019 [UTC]
https://t.me/joinchat/LDfkeRXF4tKdo5KPbAy6ng
JB
Jonathan Bahai00:18:26 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
I'll just leave this here for you to discuss
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funkit 🐳➕🐝00:21:23 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
It's unreadable.
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Nanijnr00:26:10 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Hi
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Abit More00:31:27 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
It's unreadable.
https://blockdx.co/?
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Abit More00:32:10 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
from the table, it seems we're better than binance
AM
Abit More00:35:03 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
JBahai
do you have a clear picture? or link?
JB
Jonathan Bahai00:47:55 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
abitmore
do you have a clearer picture? or link?
Here is the source https://blocknet.co/the-evolution-of-the-decentralized-exchange-a-brief-history/
JB
Jonathan Bahai00:48:14 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
abitmore
from the table, it seems we're better than binance
I'd hope so!
AM
Abit More00:48:39 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
I've read that, but didn't find the table
AM
Abit More00:49:14 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
ok, overlooked
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Abit More00:49:20 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
full image here https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/2400/1*T8KscI52HFjCSe52h6YRhg.png
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funkit 🐳➕🐝00:53:55 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
It’s full of errors in regards to bitshares. So I go to sleep.
JB
Jonathan Bahai01:58:07 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
It's got a lot of false info about bitshares.
JB
Jonathan Bahai01:58:36 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Our representative should be reaching out to correct them..
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George (Bitspark)02:36:30 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
no more margin call of doom hanging over the bitUSD/BTS markets, hope this is an opportunity for shorters to adjust their collateral ratios...
AM
Alex M - clockwork03:57:07 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
George_Bitspark
no more margin call of doom hanging over the bitUSD/BTS markets, hope this is an opportunity for shorters to adjust their collateral ratios...
Wishful thinking
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Alex M - clockwork03:57:27 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
They'll probably margin more
AM
Alex M - clockwork05:02:13 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
lol
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Stefan05:33:39 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
JBahai
Here is the source https://blocknet.co/the-evolution-of-the-decentralized-exchange-a-brief-history/
Please add any thoughts here https://github.com/bitshares/marketing/issues/3
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Jay05:44:30 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Hello __If someone is a network maker, send me a message__ i have a job offer.
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Stefan05:47:03 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
bigempaire
Hello If someone is a network maker, send me a message i have a job offer.
First, define network maker please :)
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bench06:17:05 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
Please add any thoughts here https://github.com/bitshares/marketing/issues/3
I feel a bit sorry Blocknet (2014) in terms of coin price
M
Mathew06:37:14 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
George_Bitspark
no more margin call of doom hanging over the bitUSD/BTS markets, hope this is an opportunity for shorters to adjust their collateral ratios...
They will definitely adjust their ratios...
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Mathew06:37:21 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
clockworkgr
They'll probably margin more
👆
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Mathew06:48:31 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
First, define network maker please :)
Can Stefan's boss please immediately give him a payrise? We cant lose him to this network maker role job..
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Mathew06:48:35 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
😉
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Stefan06:49:06 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
matle85
Can Stefan's boss please immediately give him a payrise? We cant lose him to this network maker role job..
🤣
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fav07:11:14 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
I can make gin tonic, works for networking
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Abit More07:21:30 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
Please add any thoughts here https://github.com/bitshares/marketing/issues/3
Btw did we have any info about the Boston event?
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Stefan07:23:18 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
abitmore
Btw did we have any info about the Boston event?
No report yet, Ryan is also at Consensus right now, so hopefully afterwards
VG
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Jotmax08:33:51 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Hello everyone, Can I withdraw bitBTC to my bitcoin wallet? How do i go about it?
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Jotmax08:33:53 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Thanks ks
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Stefan08:40:03 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Jotmax
Hello everyone, Can I withdraw bitBTC to my bitcoin wallet? How do i go about it? Thanks
There is no gateway supporting that, bitBTC is pegged to BTC, but it is not backed by BTC but BTS. You could trade to one of the gateway BTC assets (open.BTC, rudex.BTC, bridge.BTC, ...) and withdraw that
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Abit More08:43:52 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
There is no gateway supporting that, bitBTC is pegged to BTC, but it is not backed by BTC but BTS. You could trade to one of the gateway BTC assets (open.BTC, rudex.BTC, bridge.BTC, ...) and withdraw that
It's globally settled
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Stefan08:44:34 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
abitmore
It's globally settled
Still backed by BTS (undercollaterized) and still tradeable. You might not get a 1:1 trade
AM
Abit More08:46:13 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Aka not pegged to BTC right now
AM
Alex M - clockwork08:47:41 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
Still backed by BTS (undercollaterized through GS) and still tradeable. You might not get a 1:1 trade
35/100 backed
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Alex M - clockwork08:48:19 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
1/3 or so
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Stefan08:48:19 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
abitmore
Aka not pegged to BTC right now
Alright, considering the price feeds yes, they are not tracking BTC currently due to GS
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Stefan08:49:19 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
abitmore
Aka not pegged to BTC right now
If "peg" pequires full collaterization, then yes.
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Giorgi09:08:38 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptopia possible making an exit scam. Another blow to centralized exchanges.
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Giorgi09:08:51 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
One week before the hack I withdrew all my coins. So much luck.
JD
Jack Davis09:29:14 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Hi
JD
Jack Davis09:29:31 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Hello
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Dominic09:43:40 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
How many votes are required to become an active committee member?
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Alex M - clockwork09:44:54 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
dom_ahdigital
How many votes are required to become an active committee member?
412m
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Alex M - clockwork09:45:00 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
currently
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Dominic09:45:42 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Do I understand right that there is a limited number of open spots for members?
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:46:01 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
depending on how people vote
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Alex M - clockwork09:46:03 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
minimum 11
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Dominic09:46:11 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Thanks
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Dominic09:52:19 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
clockworkgr
minimum 11
Is that parameter stored on chain?
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:53:48 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
dom_ahdigital
Is that parameter stored on chain?
its minimum...i believe its hardcoded in core
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funkit 🐳➕🐝09:54:11 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
You can see it for yourself by choosing voting from the menu. There are three catecories being voted on: workers, witnesses and committee.
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Dominic09:56:44 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
I was on that page, but don't see anywhere an explanation about 11 being the minimum or if indeed there's a maximum.
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Dominic09:57:36 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Nothing says what the statuses mean either.
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Dominic09:58:43 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
E.g. backup. What does that mean.
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Dominic09:59:15 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Struggling to find any documentation either, on the wallet or via Google.
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funkit 🐳➕🐝09:59:35 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
It means they are not active but ready to step in.
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Dominic10:00:47 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Maybe not a question for here, but is it possible via the cli to revoke your own committee membership?
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Jotmax10:14:26 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
There is no gateway supporting that, bitBTC is pegged to BTC, but it is not backed by BTC but BTS. You could trade to one of the gateway BTC assets (open.BTC, rudex.BTC, bridge.BTC, ...) and withdraw that
Thanks
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Abit More10:15:41 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
dom_ahdigital
Maybe not a question for here, but is it possible via the cli to revoke your own committee membership?
no
VJ
Vishal Jha10:15:49 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Hii If you are from India and if you are looking to earn money online💰💰 pm me.....
AM
Abit More10:15:56 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
committees and witnesses are permanent
AM
Abit More10:16:19 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
dom_ahdigital
Struggling to find any documentation either, on the wallet or via Google.
check how.bitshares.works
AM
Abit More10:16:34 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
I'm not sure if there is a related document though
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Dominic10:18:06 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Nope. Lol
D
Dominic10:18:31 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
(Unless I'm failing at using th4 search)
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Dominic10:18:45 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
But thanks guys for the tips so far.
AM
Abit More10:33:01 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
dom_ahdigital
Nope. Lol
please create an issue here https://github.com/bitshares/how.bitshares.works/issues asking for the document. thanks.
SB
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JB
Jonathan Bahai12:02:40 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Ryan gave a talk in NYC yesterday at an event.. not Consensus though
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Stefan12:05:14 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Upcoming for new release, now available at https://develop.bitshares.org/#/spotlight
OU
Once Uponatime12:05:40 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
JBahai
Ryan gave a talk in NYC yesterday at an event.. not Consensus though
Give that man a T-shirt (compliments of Terradacs) 😊
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Stefan12:06:54 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
Upcoming for new release, now available at https://develop.bitshares.org/#/spotlight
EDIT: I mispelled HTLC, damnit
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funkit 🐳➕🐝13:31:46 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
onceponatime
Give that man a T-shirt (compliments of Terradacs) 😊
You mean the measly 250 bucks you sponsored them with? What about the other sponsors? No compliments from them?
D.
Daan .13:35:32 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
heey guys,
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Daan .13:35:47 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
is it safe to store it on bitshare walle?
D.
Daan .13:35:50 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
wallet
D.
Daan .13:36:05 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
coins
D.
Daan .13:37:33 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
?
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Slavi13:37:39 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Daan .
coins
Yes for bts, bitusd, bitcny...
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funkit 🐳➕🐝13:37:42 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Yes. The native coins are totally safe. Gateway coins is still entrusted to the gateway
D.
Daan .13:37:43 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
is it the same as openledger?
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Once Uponatime13:39:05 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
You mean the measly 250 bucks you sponsored them with? What about the other sponsors? No compliments from them?
How much did you sponsor them with? I have no problem you being mentioned along with your sponsorship 😄
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funkit 🐳➕🐝13:41:12 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
onceponatime
How much did you sponsor them with? I have no problem you being mentioned along with your sponsorship 😄
I sponsor Bitshares every day by trading. Not like the bloodsucking terradacs.
D.
Daan .13:43:48 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
where do u trade bitshares??
D.
Daan .13:43:54 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
and store
D.
Daan .13:44:01 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
for a a safe wallet
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funkit 🐳➕🐝13:44:16 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
wallet.bitshares.com
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Once Uponatime13:45:19 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
I sponsor Bitshares every day by trading. Not like the bloodsucking terradacs.
You are in a funk again for some reason, funkit. Calm down. I don't think you have as much information about what is going on as you would need to make informed conclusions.
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funkit 🐳➕🐝13:47:05 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
onceponatime
You are in a funk again for some reason, funkit. Calm down. I don't think you have as much information about what is going on as you would need to make informed conclusions.
Informed enough to keep my pennys out of there, yes.
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Tumor 🚀13:47:39 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
Informed enough to keep my pennys out of there, yes.
Thank GOD for people like u str8 up
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Tumor 🚀13:47:49 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Keep it real at all cost
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sia .14:24:28 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
hello
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sia .14:24:54 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
i made a backup last year
S.
sia .14:25:14 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
i have my genreatd password and privetkey
S.
sia .14:25:19 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
so how do i login?
S.
sia .14:25:47 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
on bitsharewallet
S.
sia .14:26:07 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
pls can somebody help me
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funkit 🐳➕🐝14:27:05 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
The password was generated by the wallet? Then you select cloud login and type in your user name and 45 char long password.
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sia .14:27:53 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
yes but i dont rememr my username
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sia .14:27:56 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
anymore
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funkit 🐳➕🐝14:28:15 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Well, thaen you are in trouble.
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sia .14:28:46 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
mm really ;(
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sia .14:29:16 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
but i also made a file
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funkit 🐳➕🐝14:29:57 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
OK? that might save you, but I'm not utterly convinced.
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sia .14:30:39 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
what do.u mean?
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sia .14:31:05 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
when i select the file ,, is it the same password i generated>
S.
sia .14:31:06 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
?
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funkit 🐳➕🐝14:32:48 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
No. That file should -if done correctly contain your private keys. And it is protected by a password you selected. The information you give is conflicting, so Im not sure.
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sia .14:34:07 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
i did it correctly, when i select the file, it accepts. but i dont know wich password they ask for
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George (Bitspark)14:34:12 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sia .
i have my genreatd password and privetkey
if you have the private key you can recover, but the .bin file is not the private key, the .bin file needs a password to decrypt
S.
sia .14:34:24 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
the generated one>
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sia .14:34:53 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
self made password u mean?
S.
sia .14:35:03 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
or the one the is generated self
S.
sia .14:35:21 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
i have the privatekey
S.
sia .14:36:17 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
i dont understand .. i have a password and a privatekey. and both of them are generated
S.
sia .14:36:28 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
which one do i use for what?
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sia .14:36:43 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
cuz last time i login was last year june
S.
sia .14:36:56 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
i hope u understand what i mean
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funkit 🐳➕🐝14:38:23 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
I am 90% sure you made a backup you don't need. Does the generated password have 45 characters and start with P5...?
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funkit 🐳➕🐝14:38:57 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
George_Bitspark
if you have the private key you can recover, but the .bin file is not the private key, the .bin file needs a password to decrypt
Still need an account name
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sia .14:40:04 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
yes
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sia .14:40:09 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
it starts with P%
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sia .14:40:13 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
P5
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funkit 🐳➕🐝14:41:18 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Right. Then I'm 99% sure you dont need the file. You need the account name and the P5.... Password.
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sia .14:41:53 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
mm
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sia .14:42:00 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
but i dont know the account name
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sia .14:42:06 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
its so long ago
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sia .14:42:12 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
that i login
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sia .14:42:20 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
i cant remember that anymore
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sia .14:43:26 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
but ..where is the privetkey for then? it starts with BTS
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funkit 🐳➕🐝14:43:46 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Well. Think about it and see if it gets back to you. I see several accounts that start with sia
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funkit 🐳➕🐝14:44:30 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Private kes dont start with BTS. Thats a public key
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sia .14:44:48 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
wait
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funkit 🐳➕🐝14:45:37 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
You could google the public key to find out what account it is.
JB
Jonathan Bahai14:46:05 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
onceponatime
Give that man a T-shirt (compliments of Terradacs) 😊
He brought one! It's a large.. so I let Cory have it.. I still have mine from cryptofresh :)
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sia .14:47:07 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
i have also a BrainKEy
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sia .14:47:16 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
can that help me?
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funkit 🐳➕🐝14:47:29 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Im pretty sure its of no use
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sia .14:48:10 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
what do u mean? sorry for my bad english
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George (Bitspark)14:48:20 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sia .
can that help me?
did you go to account recovery ? https://dex.bitspark.io/settings/restore
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sia .14:48:30 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
no
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George (Bitspark)14:48:38 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
look what is there, take some time to see what you have, then consider if you can recover
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George (Bitspark)14:48:47 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
thats the first place you go then, not telegram
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sia .14:49:08 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
oh oke. thank u george
ID
Investor Raymond Donovan15:38:32 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Hi everyone
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Stefan16:05:16 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
@btswallethelp if anything more
AM
Abit More16:33:32 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
Upcoming for new release, now available at https://develop.bitshares.org/#/spotlight
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28413.0
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Jotmax17:24:41 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Why is BitBTC $5k if it is equivalent to btc? I'm a bit confused.
FS
Fabian Schuh17:32:26 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sia .
i cant remember that anymore
you probably need to bruteforce thru the existing accounts .. only 1.6m in existence .. knowing when you created your account plus thr password should allow someone to write a quick script that allows to figure out the right account name relatively quickly
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Stefan17:37:49 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
xeroc
you probably need to bruteforce thru the existing accounts .. only 1.6m in existence .. knowing when you created your account plus thr password should allow someone to write a quick script that allows to figure out the right account name relatively quickly
Couldn't you generate the keys from password and do key reference lookup?
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funkit 🐳➕🐝17:40:26 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
She has the public key. Google it.
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funkit 🐳➕🐝17:41:20 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Jotmax
Why is BitBTC $5k if it is equivalent to btc? I'm a bit confused.
Because it is in global settlement and thus lost the peg.
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Stefan17:41:21 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Doesn't any of the explorers allow searching by public key?
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funkit 🐳➕🐝17:41:47 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Cryptofresh is indexed by google
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Stefan17:42:26 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
Because it is in global settlement and thus lost the peg.
It lost the peg because people trade it for less. GS means "only" it's undercollaterized and has a fixed instant settle price
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Fabian Schuh17:51:46 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
Doesn't any of the explorers allow searching by public key?
uptick info PUBKEY
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Fabian Schuh17:51:48 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
:)
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Fabian Schuh17:52:40 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
Couldn't you generate the keys from password and do key reference lookup?
you need accountname+role+password to derive the wif key. role and password are fix, account names can be iterated from chain
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Abit More17:52:54 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
You have a public key?
AM
Abit More17:53:02 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Starts with BTS
AM
Abit More17:53:15 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
get_key_references then
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Mathew17:56:47 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
It lost the peg because people trade it for less. GS means "only" it's undercollaterized and has a fixed instant settle price
This is an important difference
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Mathew17:57:05 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
It can hold the peg while being undercollateralised
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Mathew17:57:23 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
And being collatorised doesn't necessarily mean the peg is holding that well
HB
Henry BTCSCRIPT18:04:08 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
"Bitcoin Fake Transaction" is a software that allows you to make Bitcoin transactions. The bitcoins sent by this software are not real bitcoins, they are cloned Bitcoins. These bitcoins disappear from your wallet as soon as the blockchain security bot identifies them. You can follow the video tutorial on using the software through the youtube link below.
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Stefan18:16:35 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
My new favorite walle7. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28375.msg330323#new They are integrating Beet 😊
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Slavi18:17:41 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
My new favorite walle7. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28375.msg330323#new They are integrating Beet 😊
😎
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Stefan18:57:11 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
HackTheDex is seeking to be renewed, to enhance the security of the BitShares blockchain by (re-)inviting penetration testers https://steemit.com/blockchain/@sschiessl/worker-proposal-hack-the-dex-a-bitshares-bug-bounty-program-2019 The sought funding is quite small because the old worker can be re-purposed. Please have a look and consider for your next voting update
It seems like we need to start thinking about degrading HackTheDex. Will try to lobby a bit more this week
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R19:00:54 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
It seems like we need to start thinking about degrading HackTheDex. Will try to lobby a bit more this week, please help if you like those efforts to continue
Or just keep pushing it, I've not seen anyone oppose the idea, just that it hasn't gained much attention yet
SL
Stan Larimer19:01:33 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
We've given away over 1 billion BEOS to just 814 accounts so far. There's another 1.6 billion left to give out. Don't miss out! https://i.gyazo.com/0f001febd2a066e26a4c06da31c2afca.png
CG
Cherry Garcia19:04:21 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
@StanLarimer pardon my ignorance or lack of BEOS homework done but is this anything like the HERO token? I am new to BEOS.
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Michael19:13:03 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
It seems like we need to start thinking about degrading HackTheDex. Will try to lobby a bit more this week, please help if you like those efforts to continue
Could we combine this with the WCC hackathon that they invited us to sponsor? That might be best and it will get more developer exposure to bts outside of the community...
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Stefan19:14:52 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
fromzer0t0her0
Could we combine this with the WCC hackathon that they invited us to sponsor? That might be best and it will get more developer exposure to bts outside of the community...
With the proper setup (private testnet for example) a Hackathon could certainly do penetration tests, and get the bounties for applicable vulnerabilities through HackTheDex
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Stefan19:15:44 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
For more general sponsorship of the Hackathon there also might be funds left in the Hackathon budget of core worker
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Michael19:17:03 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
SO maybe we combine the WCC hackathon and hack the dex @john_on_chain thoughts? They were talking about a bts event before or after wcc anyways, and the poll for north american event las vegas won...which is where wcc is too.
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Michael19:17:14 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
We could kill all 3 birds with 1 stone
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Michael19:17:46 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Wcc is in vegas and the poll for north american event so far vegas wins
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Michael19:18:16 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
The guys that are running WCC offered to do a bts based event before or after wcc. We could kill all 3 birds here
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Michael19:18:31 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
But I think the biggest thing is getting more developers outside of the community to participate in a hackathon and hack the dex
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Stefan19:36:37 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
fromzer0t0her0
We could kill all 3 birds with 1 stone
HackTheDex could create a massive incentive for the Hackathon and/or onboarding new devs
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Thule19:40:25 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
George_Bitspark
😂
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Thule19:41:08 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
created some debt for your bts to play arround
C
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Sahar Saharss20:17:43 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
/hi all am new
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Sahar Saharss20:17:49 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Hii
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Sahar Saharss20:17:51 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
All
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Michael21:05:35 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
fromzer0t0her0
The guys that are running WCC offered to do a bts based event before or after wcc. We could kill all 3 birds here
@john_on_chain
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Michael21:10:29 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
For more general sponsorship of the Hackathon there might be funds left in the Hackathon budget of core worker
Let's discuss this tomorrow? John R and Jonathan a d Aaron and I were working on writing up the wcc proposal and north american proposal.
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Michael21:11:03 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
I would suggest we just combine, if we do we will save .oney and get a bigger value out of it. They will discount the costs.
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Stefan21:18:18 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
fromzer0t0her0
I would suggest we just combine, if we do we will save money and get a bigger value out of it. They will discount the costs.
Not sure what you want to combine? The Hackthedex proposal is standing by itself and should continue to do so as its simply a different scope as a one time Hackathon, also because it will take over funds from previous Hackthedex worker. Nevertheless I see great synergies between that and the Hackathon and would happily help assist there
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Stefan21:18:58 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
fromzer0t0her0
Let's discuss this tomorrow? John R and Jonathan and Aaron and I were working on writing up the wcc proposal and north american proposal.
Ping me whenever convenient!
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Michael21:59:57 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
Ping me whenever convenient!
Will do our midmorning. Wcc hackathon focuses on interoperability and cross chain as well as reducing tribalism amd working together. Imagine that 😎. They did have an interest in BTS and BEOS because of the theme, etc etc. I can fill you in tomorrow. Thx @sschiessl
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Michael22:02:38 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
Ping me whenever convenient!
We will probably contact U mid morning est. Wcc hackathon focuses on blockchain interoperability and cross chain use as well as reducing tribalism in the blockchain industry by working together. Imagine that 😎. They are interested in BTS and BEOS because of this topic. I'll ping you tomorrow.
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funkit 🐳➕🐝22:26:26 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
fromzer0t0her0
We will probably contact U mid morning est. Wcc hackathon focuses on blockchain interoperability and cross chain use as well as reducing tribalism in the blockchain industry by working together. Imagine that 😎. They are interested in BTS and BEOS because of this topic. I'll ping you tomorrow.
The irony. Mr private club blockchain himself “reducing tribalism”. Double talk has a face.
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funkit 🐳➕🐝22:52:13 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
I think it’s better to call out the sabotage the “rainfall” is for what it is rather than sugaring it in empty phrases.
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Once Uponatime22:57:45 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
I think it’s better to call out the sabotage the “rainfall” is for what it is rather than sugaring it in empty phrases.
Could some of funkit's silent supporters please speak up? He is beginning to sound merely bitter and totally irrelevant. Please help him. He knows you are out there. You have been telling him in private how prescient he is, haven't you? Well, haven't you?
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funkit 🐳➕🐝23:00:03 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
onceponatime
Could some of funkit's silent supporters please speak up? He is beginning to sound merely bitter and totally irrelevant. Please help him. He knows you are out there. You have been telling him in private how prescient he is, haven't you? Well, haven't you?
Could you go for the ball rather than tackeling me, mr?
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funkit 🐳➕🐝23:04:46 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Well. Then that is cleared up. It is the well known formula; blame it on funkit. Every scammer in the world, take notes.
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Michael23:04:58 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
The irony. Mr private club blockchain himself “reducing tribalism”. Double talk has a face.
Kumbaya. Say it with me. 🤗
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funkit 🐳➕🐝23:05:42 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Not before the blood letting of bitshares stops.
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Michael23:06:14 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
Not before the blood letting of bitshares stops.
The horror and carnage. So much fright. 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂
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Michael23:06:52 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
It seems to me everyone is working together more than ever.
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Michael23:07:15 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
But I am not a pessimistic fud troll
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Jonathan Bahai23:07:25 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
Not before the blood letting of bitshares stops.
Exactly who are you talking about?
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Michael23:07:50 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Himself
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funkit 🐳➕🐝23:07:52 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
JBahai
Exactly who are you talking about?
The BEOS scam of course
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Michael23:08:10 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
There is that unfounded word again
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Michael23:08:44 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
How were you scammed my dear poor innocent funkit?
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Michael23:08:57 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
My sweet prince?
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Michael23:10:31 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Wait, you werent scanmed at all
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Michael23:10:43 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
You were given a choice to participate and you chose not to
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Michael23:10:46 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Sounds fair
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Michael23:11:36 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
Could you go for the ball rather than tackeling me, mr?
Be nice to him Paul, he is delicate and has a tenuous grasp on reality
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Stan Larimer23:11:52 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
We've handed out over a billion BEOS so far with another 1.6 billion to go. 814 accounts have been gobbling them all up. Hate to see folks listen to funkit and miss out.
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Michael23:12:22 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
StanLarimer
We've handed out over a billion BEOS so far with another 1.6 billion to go. 814 accounts have been gobbling them all up. Hate to see folks listen to funkit and miss out.
They can blame him later
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Stan Larimer23:13:22 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Wouldn't it be nice if we were older Then we wouldn't have to wait so long? And wouldn't it be nice to live together In the kind of world where we belong?
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funkit 🐳➕🐝23:14:01 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
StanLarimer
We've handed out over a billion BEOS so far with another 1.6 billion to go. 814 accounts have been gobbling them all up. Hate to see folks listen to funkit and miss out.
Missed out on what? Jurisdictional slavery? No, thanks.
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Michael23:14:09 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
The irony. Mr private club blockchain himself “reducing tribalism”. Double talk has a face.
Been preaching it for years, so not out of character
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Michael23:14:28 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
Missed out on what? Jurisdictional slavery? No, thanks.
It's like you don't even speak english
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funkit 🐳➕🐝23:18:40 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
fromzer0t0her0
It's like you don't even speak english
Again tackle the man and forget the ball. Every scammers opus moderandi.
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Stan Larimer23:18:41 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Escape from the funkit reality distortion field and come visit https://web.telegram.org/#/im?p=@officialbeos
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Michael23:18:59 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
Again tackle the man and forget the ball. Every scammers opus moderandi.
Funkit, I don't even mind paying for your 500bts fee to get rainfall. Kumbaya my brother.
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funkit 🐳➕🐝23:19:22 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Send it to donations666
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Michael23:20:50 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
Send it to donations666
Is that a deal? I would love to pay your fee and help you get some rainfall so you can see how it all works. Maybe you might even like a 💦little singing in the rain 💦
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Stan Larimer23:22:40 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv8GW1GaoIc
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Ryan R. Fox23:46:45 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
sschiessl
No report yet, Ryan is also at Consensus right now, so hopefully afterwards
Yes, on Friday I hope to have a draft to share with the team to edit further. @abitmore
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Ryan R. Fox23:55:37 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
Wore it with pride 😊
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Jonathan Bahai23:56:42 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
He wore it at consensus too.. I'm a witness. :)
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Once Uponatime23:58:45 - 15 May 2019 [UTC]
ryanRfox
Wore it with pride 😊
😍
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Michael00:04:54 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
ryanRfox
I am gonna need one of those.
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Ryan R. Fox00:05:51 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
Point of information: I wore a clean one each day. They will now be washed any my boys will wear them as well. Raising crypto cred in the high schools halls.
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Jonathan Bahai00:06:54 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
ryanRfox
Point of information: I wore a clean one each day. They will now be washed and my boys will wear them going forward. Raising crypto cred in the high schools halls.
In case you missed what I recently found speaking at a jr high recently.. 1 in 40 jr high school kids knew bitshares
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Ryan R. Fox00:07:52 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
fromzer0t0her0
I am gonna need one of those.
Oh course. I’ll get them to anyone coming to Boston or willing to cover postage. Also, will bring them with be where I’m speaking. Perhaps WCC
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Sandra Wills00:10:20 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
Inbox me for more details
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Sandra Wills00:10:20 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
When I first started I was skeptical I don't know if this was the right program. The more testimonies I saw made me confirm is genuine and from that moment my experience has been amazing.i have gone from homeless to owning my own mansion.i want to say,stop thinking and join this great company 💯 best. Instant withdraw http://cryptospro.co.uk/?ref=Sandra Follow us on telegram @ https://t.me/joinchat/JcKkvhcOceQurHlOJ32ZCg
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funkit 🐳➕🐝00:29:40 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
I wonder why nobody posted this here. Explosive stuff: https://whaleshares.io/@christopher/bitshares-and-interledger-ilp-summit-summary-for-the-bitshares-community
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Wet Toast00:48:12 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
JBahai
Here is the source https://blocknet.co/the-evolution-of-the-decentralized-exchange-a-brief-history/
I made a comment on a twitter post regarding this chart pointing out a couple things I think were wrong in regards to bitshares. I was asked to provide what changes were needed as they are working on a version 2. If someone with more knowledge could reach out to them that would be great.
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Wet Toast00:49:24 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
https://twitter.com/arlynculwick/status/1128800304806416384?s=12
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Sahar Saharss01:03:59 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
HELPE IN EARNING WITH 50$ INVEST NO SCAM
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George (Bitspark)01:21:37 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
ryanRfox
awesome where can we get the shirts?
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Ryan R. Fox01:22:14 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
DM me 👍
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George (Bitspark)01:31:03 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
👍👍
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Bờ Lốc Chênh Việt Nam01:35:44 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
JLiBercrypto
I can't send the link
Pm to me bcz the bot deleted it. Tks
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Bờ Lốc Chênh Việt Nam01:40:50 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
cryptobigbog
does not want to take my Etherwallet
You give the account name on Bitshares wallet, we will check and help.
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Ricko Paleva02:11:31 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
http://bit.ly/2UNNjgU
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Ricko Paleva02:11:52 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
http://bit.ly/2UNNjgU
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Ricko Paleva02:13:08 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
http://bit.ly/2UNNjgU
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Bờ Lốc Chênh Việt Nam02:15:33 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
I wonder why nobody posted this here. Explosive stuff: https://whaleshares.io/@christopher/bitshares-and-interledger-ilp-summit-summary-for-the-bitshares-community
Wonderful. If Bitshares be a node of interledger, it become the highway for transition of many token .
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kenCode02:36:42 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
Danang_crypto_teller
Wonderful. If Bitshares be a node of interledger, it become the highway for transition of many token .
exactly 💪💪
你啊
你好 啊04:01:37 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
hello dude, what you guys think tomorrow btc?
你啊
你好 啊04:02:03 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
8500?
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Zeto04:02:55 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
warning: cvcoin will be pumped today. don't miss the train.
你啊
你好 啊04:03:38 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
?
你啊
你好 啊04:03:48 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
w?
你啊
你好 啊04:03:57 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
what happened
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Uranus04:27:19 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
I am Funding your Verified Coinbase account (specifically GBP {£} or EU {€} ) with minimum Limit of £2.5k. If you got a US ($) account with limit of at least 2k, PM me for this beneficial deal. Only interested and serious minded people.
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i am Kim-Jong Un05:53:07 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
Guys, see whole market recover but only DLT is not recover yet & I think it's right time to take entry, huge accumulation going on
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i am Kim-Jong Un05:53:49 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
buy it before whales entering, I am huge bullish on DLT
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Derrick Benjamin06:31:58 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
Thanks
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Jotmax07:17:44 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
Because it is in global settlement and thus lost the peg.
Alright. Thanks
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Oriana Lokke07:51:27 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
I just found a group, Someone is available for a question? 😀
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R08:07:22 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
I wonder why nobody posted this here. Explosive stuff: https://whaleshares.io/@christopher/bitshares-and-interledger-ilp-summit-summary-for-the-bitshares-community
Very cool
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Mathew08:12:18 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
funkit
I wonder why nobody posted this here. Explosive stuff: https://whaleshares.io/@christopher/bitshares-and-interledger-ilp-summit-summary-for-the-bitshares-community
Interesting a well written...lots of opportunities there, effectively means you could give the benefit of arbitrage bots directly to the purchaser
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Mathew08:13:08 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
Heads spinning a bit about how it works and how it overlaps with HTLC etc...I'm sure smarter minds than mind are all over thinking it through! 😅
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R08:59:53 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
matle85
Interesting a well written...lots of opportunities there, effectively means you could give the benefit of arbitrage bots directly to the purchaser
It's also highly technical and fresh, going to spend more time reading it later today
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R09:00:24 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
In the mean time, can everyone support the hackthedex worker proposal please? It's pinned in chat. 👍
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Fabian Schuh09:03:37 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
pe
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Mathew09:05:30 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
cmmob
It's also highly technical and fresh, going to spend more time reading it later today
Ditto
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sia 2309:13:45 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
hello guys, i hope u fine. pls does somebody know how to recover my account. i have made a icloud wallet and a local wallet last year in june . but i dont remember my account name anymore of the icloud wallet ..and for the local wallet( which i have the bin file) i dont know the password. what i have is a generated password that starts with P5 and i have a privatekey. is it possible for me to recover my account with his information? i hope u can help me.
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Alex M - clockwork09:14:37 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
P5 is for cloud wallet
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Alex M - clockwork09:14:56 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
private key, you can create a new local wallet
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Alex M - clockwork09:15:00 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
and import the private key
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Alex M - clockwork09:15:16 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
unless youre mistaken and you have a key startign with BTS
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Alex M - clockwork09:15:22 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
in which case thats a public key
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Alex M - clockwork09:15:26 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
not a private key
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sia 2309:16:07 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
yes i have also a key that starts with BTS
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Stefan09:16:37 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
sia 23
hello guys, i hope u fine. pls does somebody know how to recover my account. i have made a icloud wallet and a local wallet last year in june . but i dont remember my account name anymore of the icloud wallet ..and for the local wallet( which i have the bin file) i dont know the password. what i have is a generated password that starts with P5 and i have a privatekey. is it possible for me to recover my account with his information? i hope u can help me.
@btswallethelp
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fav10:58:40 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28377.msg330326#msg330326
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Luigi11:06:07 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
https://www.reddit.com/r/xmrtrader/comments/bp62ba/hitbtc_fraud/
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Mathew11:32:43 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
favdesu
https://www.reddit.com/r/xmrtrader/comments/bp62ba/hitbtc_fraud/
Retrospective fund seizure for KYC purposes could be the next range of outrages for CEXs
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Mathew12:01:24 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
favdesu
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28377.msg330326#msg330326
What's the way to defend the integrity of the chain against excessive centralisation?
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Mathew12:02:22 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
Previously alt said 31, now he's reduced it to 25
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Mathew12:02:58 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
Conceivably BEOS could get a significant chunk more BTS if there is outside interest in the project from the EOS community
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Abit More12:03:02 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
What 31 25?
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Mathew12:03:12 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
So how would we settle on a safe number?
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Abit More12:03:48 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
you just get more people voting
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Mathew12:04:02 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
abitmore
What 31 25?
Sorry adjusted my wording
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Mathew12:04:28 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
abitmore
you just get more people voting
Voter apathy is an issue
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Abit More12:04:38 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
Yes it is.
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Mathew12:05:26 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
Note I'm not concerned that BEOS are going to do what is referred to but I agree that the decentralised network needs to establish some mechanism for protecting itself when a centralised entity gains too many votes
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Abit More12:05:54 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
Oh
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Abit More12:06:03 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
Just get people hodl then.
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Abit More12:06:34 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
It's free market, doesn't it?
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Mathew12:07:07 - 16 May 2019 [UTC]
I'm not sure what the solution is - ideally more people voting like Abit says, but in reality we know voter apathy is an issue. Probably it will get to the point where BEOS has this ability to assign a critical mass of witnesses as it currently stands.
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