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Johan Friso15:02:38 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
How do you combine propose_builder_transaction2 with withdraw_permission_create_operation in cli_wallet?
Without payee's claim, is it possible payer or blockchain to pay amount automatically using 2 operations?
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Johan Friso15:03:11 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I tried to implement auto-payment using those above 2 operations, but couldn't do yet.
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Kristin Low15:38:14 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
Who cares. Rankings are full of agendas
Especially ones from the Chinese government.
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fav15:45:58 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
it's like asking coinmarketcap for a ranking
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fav15:46:02 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
:D
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Mathew15:49:10 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
What's Stefan not an admin?
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Mathew15:49:50 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
He puts in some time answering Qs so I'd vote for him
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Mathew15:50:52 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I would say switch him in for @favdesu but I know that guy loves being admin with the associated tagging etc...
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はるか16:21:47 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
god now I really don't like cryptobridge
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はるか16:22:25 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
my ws node somehow went into their node list
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はるか16:22:37 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
costing me $100+ on traffic
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Alex M - clockwork16:24:28 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
harukaff_bot
costing me $100+ on traffic
Hmmmm
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Alex M - clockwork16:24:37 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
@abitmore
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Alex M - clockwork16:24:55 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Maybe that's what we've been seeing
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はるか16:25:01 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I think most of them are caused by staying on exchange page
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Alex M - clockwork16:25:24 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
(all of us have seen increased node usage)
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Alex M - clockwork16:25:34 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Maybe they added a bunch of nodes
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Sara16:26:46 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
all the coins in the market are connected to each other. All coins fall because the market falls. it is the coins that will enter the market which will put an end to this. If the new comer has a strong support and a good staff, he gets out of the falling market and climbs up.
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はるか16:27:16 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I could barely afford the bill now
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はるか16:27:47 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
dunno where did they get that
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Alex M - clockwork16:31:18 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
g yep...thats it
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Alex M - clockwork16:31:27 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
theyve addedthefull referencelist
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Alex M - clockwork16:31:56 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
whichis fucked up cause iirc they used to have it so ref wallet couldntuse theirs
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Abit More16:32:06 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
@abitmore
?
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Abit More16:32:54 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
If it is not public I suggest you just shut it down
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Abit More16:33:13 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Or change a domain name or port or whatever
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Abit More16:33:43 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Check Extinction-event repo in the org
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Alex M - clockwork16:33:44 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
abitmore
?
just saying that the increase in traffic in our nodes seems to be cause cryptobridge added them to their wallet
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Abit More16:33:51 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
See if you're there
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Alex M - clockwork16:33:54 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
they didnt have them before
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Alex M - clockwork16:34:27 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
it is...checked...they added all of them...backported the node-selection stuff stefan did
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Alex M - clockwork16:34:55 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
that would be cool if like I said they hadnt made a fuss about reference wallet using their nodes in the past
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Abit More16:35:30 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I mean, I guess Haruka's node is not public
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はるか16:36:34 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I run it for a purpose... so shutting it down may not be an option
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Alex M - clockwork16:37:13 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Ask them to remove it
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Alex M - clockwork16:37:24 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
@cryptobridge
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はるか16:37:26 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
already asking about it in their discord
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Abit More16:37:41 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
johanfriso87
How do you combine propose_builder_transaction2 with withdraw_permission_create_operation in cli_wallet?
Without payee's claim, is it possible payer or blockchain to pay amount automatically using 2 operations?
Ask in Dev channel
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Shats Sir16:40:35 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I made money on one crypto exchange
But since I'm from China, I was blocked on all these exchanges
Who can help me withdraw BTC please? Write me
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Abit More16:41:12 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
harukaff_bot
I run it for a purpose... so shutting it down may not be an option
I know, but I guess it doesn't need to be public without authentication
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はるか16:41:51 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
my hosted web wallet need to use it... don't think authentication would work then
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Abit More16:42:54 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
You mean reference UI doesn't support authentication
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Abit More16:43:10 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
It's in Todo for 3 years
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Shats Sir16:43:15 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Pls help me
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Shats Sir16:45:43 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i take 0.003 btc
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Mathew16:45:53 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Shats Sir
I made money on one crypto exchange
But since I'm from China, I was blocked on all these exchanges
Who can help me withdraw BTC please? Write me
Its the same for my uncle Nagaraju who inherited £15M but can't get it out of the country without help 🙁
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Abit More16:45:53 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Shats Sir
I made money on one crypto exchange
But since I'm from China, I was blocked on all these exchanges
Who can help me withdraw BTC please? Write me
I think this worth a ban
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Abit More16:47:04 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
harukaff_bot
my hosted web wallet need to use it... don't think authentication would work then
I guess it's not too hard for you to hack the UI code😜
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Alex M - clockwork16:47:04 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
matle85
Its the same for my long lost Uncle Nagaraju who inherited £15M but can't get it out of the country without help 🙁
Shit. We're cousins
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Shats Sir16:47:12 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
why?
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はるか16:47:23 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
abitmore
You mean reference UI doesn't support authentication
I'm now thinking, which kind of "authentication" are you referring to?
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はるか16:47:36 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
standard node login procedure?
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Abit More16:47:38 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Login API
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はるか16:47:57 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
got it
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Mathew16:48:23 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
Shit. We're cousins
This makes the sexual chemistry between us super awkward.
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Alex M - clockwork16:50:03 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
dxx980000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000oh
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Alex M - clockwork16:50:28 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
^^-> my daughter
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はるか17:01:37 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
direct x 98000000000
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はるか17:01:46 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
wayyyyy into the future
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Cazi17:04:01 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
LTCU .... (Cryptopia Exchange)
#LTCU new website release at 19 September + android app
buy now guys big news and will reach 4X at least don't miss it🤑🤑
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Stefan Schießl17:28:28 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
abitmore
Login API
In what way could you UI authenticate ? Does that mean that only this UI deployment is allowed to connect?
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Stefan Schießl17:28:47 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
What Gdex and OL? What nodes do they support?
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はるか17:30:15 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
In what way could you UI authenticate ? Does that mean that only this UI deployment is allowed to connect?
I'm modifying bitsharesjs-ws, it seems that it has reserved rpc_user and rpc_password
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はるか17:30:41 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I think ultimately UI would be able to set the user and password when connecting to api
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Stefan Schießl17:31:13 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
harukaff_bot
I think ultimately UI would be able to set the user and password when connecting to api
Ah, and you configure that in the node
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はるか17:31:18 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
yep
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はるか17:31:21 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
access.json
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Stefan Schießl17:33:23 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Neat, did not know that
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はるか17:36:47 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I'm hardcoding it right now... seems working fine
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はるか17:40:39 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
still costs some traffic on failed auth, but a lot better
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Alex M - clockwork17:46:48 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Nice
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Bangzi17:54:06 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
第100期比特股网络报告 - 2018年9月11日 (Bitshares - State of the Network[CN])
https://steemit.com/bitshares/@bangzi/100-2018-9-11-bitshares-state-of-the-network-cn
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Shats Sir18:01:45 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
bitfinex-wallet.com code 2P5MyOGZOP 0.004 btc
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Shats Sir18:01:55 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
bitfinex-wallet . com code 2P5MyOGZOP 0.004 btc
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Stefan Schießl18:19:24 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
harukaff_bot
still costs some traffic on failed auth, but a lot better
Was that node in the reference UI?
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はるか18:19:44 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
nope, that's my node
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Stefan Schießl18:20:03 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Ok, but it's in CryptoBridge UI?
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Stefan Schießl18:20:27 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
harukaff_bot
nope, that's my node
Ok, but it's in CryptoBridge UI?
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はるか18:20:29 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
yep
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はるか18:21:48 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
it now shows up as running but not usable
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はるか18:22:06 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
as the ping only checks connectivity, not authentication
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Alex M - clockwork18:28:23 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Ok, but it's in CryptoBridge UI?
Yeah, they added all the ref ones too
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Fatade Adeolu18:29:01 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/BitcoinMining30sBot?start=639070388
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Stefan Schießl18:38:34 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
Yeah, they added all the ref ones too
I have contacted CryptoBridge to see if they are ok with having their nodes in Ref UI now
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Alex M - clockwork18:43:24 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
I have contacted CryptoBridge to see if they are ok with having their nodes in Ref UI now
Heh
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Alex M - clockwork18:43:26 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Good
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mindphlux18:43:59 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
We will consider it, but will have to investigate what the downside (traffic) would be. AWS is hellish expensive
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Alex M - clockwork18:44:26 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
mindphlux
We will consider it, but will have to investigate what the downside (traffic) would be. AWS is hellish expensive
While it's free for the rest of us eh?
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funkit18:44:57 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
@mindphlux cheap excuses
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mindphlux18:45:01 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Haven't said that
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Alex M - clockwork18:45:23 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
My band width went 4x up
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Alex M - clockwork18:45:34 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Fox's 10x up
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Alex M - clockwork18:45:37 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Etc.
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mindphlux18:46:09 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Since when did it go up?
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Alex M - clockwork18:47:33 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Last month or so
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Alex M - clockwork18:47:55 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
We were actually trying to figure out why
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mindphlux18:48:05 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Our latest release was August 8th, does that correlate with your traffic increase?
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Alex M - clockwork18:48:20 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Sounds about right
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Alex M - clockwork18:48:39 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Other node ops can confirm
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Alex M - clockwork18:49:10 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
regardless of exact increase
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mindphlux18:49:41 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Well, bitshares as a whole is having more volume now with CB having a large part in it. Our 60+ public nodes are also being hammered
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Alex M - clockwork18:49:42 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
this expectation that we should share (which I have no issue with) while you dont have to is ...well..lame
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mindphlux18:50:25 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I'll take it to the team and find a good solution. I take it serious
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Alex M - clockwork18:50:46 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
thanks...again...nothing against sharing
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funkit18:50:54 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
It should be a requirement
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Alex M - clockwork18:51:08 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
even if my node went 20x up from reference wallet alone i'd still keep it running
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Alex M - clockwork18:51:19 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
it's just the double standards that bug me
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Alex M - clockwork18:52:18 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
also
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Alex M - clockwork18:52:31 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Ive mentioned in node admins a good solution for AWS bandwidth costs
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Alex M - clockwork18:52:41 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
using a lightsail instance per region as a load balancer
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Alex M - clockwork18:52:50 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
getting cheap inter-region bandwisth
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mindphlux18:52:54 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
To be honest, we haven't been aware that CB is causing additional traffic costs for others. I've just been aware
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Alex M - clockwork18:53:05 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
and the cheap lightsail included bandwidth outbound
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Alex M - clockwork18:53:13 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
please look into that if you havent yet
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Alex M - clockwork18:53:19 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
it will help loads
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Alex M - clockwork18:53:37 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
can take down costs 80-90% depending on actual usage
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mindphlux18:53:40 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Thanks, will forward it to our tech department
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Alex M - clockwork18:59:28 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
mindphlux
Thanks, will forward it to our tech department
lightsail is 10$ for 2T bandwidth...get them to ask in node admisn group if they need a quicj guide on the setup
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はるか19:03:03 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
Other node ops can confirm
Can confirm
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はるか19:04:29 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
(seems replied to wrong message... but yeah
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Alex M - clockwork19:15:01 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
harukaff_bot
Can confirm
ouch
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funkit19:24:46 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptobridge is not only piggybacking, they essentially steal bandwidth. Crazy.
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Crypto Kong20:59:35 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Good to see cryptobridge bringing a lot of activity to bitshares
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Crypto Kong20:59:50 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hope this can be sorted fairlt
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Crypto Kong21:00:59 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Also makes me think their should be an incentive for people to host public nodes
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R21:05:52 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Also makes me think their should be a financial incentive for people to host public nodes
Idd, but how to prove resource utilisation?
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Stefan Schießl21:08:20 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Also makes me think their should be a financial incentive for people to host public nodes
Anyone who profits of the Blockchain could run a node, and done 😊
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Alex M - clockwork21:12:28 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Also makes me think their should be a financial incentive for people to host public nodes
cryptobridge was planning on offering soem rewards at some point...not sure what happened
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Alex M - clockwork21:12:47 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
both infrastructre workers supply nodes
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Alex M - clockwork21:12:54 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
as well as most witnesses
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Alex M - clockwork21:13:02 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
and gateways
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Alex M - clockwork21:13:14 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
not sure if anyone provides a public API node out of pocket
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Henry MCalister22:30:49 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
can someone help me get some bitcoins
EM
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Emily Margaret22:45:56 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Henry MCalister
can someone help me get some bitcoins
Sure henry
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Emily Margaret22:46:06 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I sell bitcoins at low rates
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FarmerD23:03:16 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Henry MCalister
can someone help me get some bitcoins
👆Scam 💩
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Werhhhh23:29:53 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Henry MCalister
can someone help me get some bitcoins
Yeah buy them on the dex
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Dave Scotese23:38:02 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
funkit
@favdesu will fix that for you.
Dscotese
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Dave Scotese23:38:24 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
Account name?
Dscotese
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Dave Scotese23:39:21 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
Use bitsharestalk.io
Okay, I'll check that out.
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Dave Scotese23:41:38 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
thule369
i really hope the market won't keep bleeding much more cause these leads only to the next blackswan
Bleeding actually tends to postpone black swans. Its control that produces the instability that build up over time. Check out Antifragile by Nassim Taleb.
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Dave Scotese23:55:46 - 13 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Which of the .io and .org versions of bitsharestalk was created last, and why was it created when the other one was already there?
FV
Felipe Venâncio04:10:02 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/iCenter_Lite_BOT?start=b5yvad154245
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fav04:21:31 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
io runs on blockchain.
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sqile07:30:53 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
free btc bot
BD
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fav07:42:06 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
TL note: 'admin please when binance!
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Alex M - clockwork07:42:22 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
TL note: 'admin please when binance.'
soon (TM)
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funkit07:52:11 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
When cryptopia?
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funkit07:52:22 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
🐝
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fav07:54:13 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
When gox
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Ibrahim Ahmad08:27:56 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://cxminers.com/ref/9859/register
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https://cxminers.com/ref/9859/register
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Henry Nguyen09:10:05 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hi all,
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Henry Nguyen09:10:24 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I have created account in CLI Wallet
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Henry Nguyen09:10:37 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
How can I import It into cloud wallet?
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R09:18:43 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
dscotese
Which of the .io and .org versions of bitsharestalk was created last, and why was it created when the other one was already there?
Because io runs on whaleshares which sharedropped on bts. Better claim your sharedrop before the deadline is met
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Alex M - clockwork09:20:38 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Because io runs on whaleshares which sharedropped on bts. Better claim your sharedrop before the deadline is met
isnt that like late tonight?
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R09:21:29 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
isnt that like late tonight?
Technically yes but I think the deadline may be extended due to people missing the claim period
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Omar09:50:57 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
What is whalesshares? Any point in claiming them if they only are worthless anyways?
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Stefan Schießl09:52:43 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
paathi
What is whalesshares? Any point in claiming them if they only are worthless anyways?
The are similar to STEEM the instrucment of rewarding posts
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Omar09:53:57 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I haven't received any. How can I claim whalesshares?
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Stefan Schießl09:54:11 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
paathi
I haven't received any. How can I claim whalesshares?
https://wls.services
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Stefan Schießl09:54:35 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
"Send 1 WHALESHARE to wlsbts with this memo from your Bitshares account"
This 1 WHALESHARE you would need to buy on the DEX first
FV
Felipe Venâncio09:58:28 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
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R10:22:44 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
paathi
What is whalesshares? Any point in claiming them if they only are worthless anyways?
Is you don't claim then you miss out entirely, something is better than nothing.
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Omar10:26:12 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
There is nobody selling any whalesshares at the moment on the dex.
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Werhhhh10:31:00 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Its whaleshares
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Alex M - clockwork10:32:34 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
It's whaleshare
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Alex M - clockwork10:32:36 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
No s
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funkit10:36:39 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
longnv1a
How can I import It into cloud wallet?
I have never used cli, but pure logic tells me you should be able to user username/password or username/private key to log in with the GUI.
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Werhhhh10:36:41 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
OH my bas
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Henry Nguyen10:39:22 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
@funkit there is password to unlock cli wallet, but it is not password in cloud wallet. I can get the private key of the account, but there is no option to import private key into cloud wallet :(
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Frimax10:43:49 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Send 0.05 bit coin and get 0.09 in 30 minutes
MF
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Omar11:56:35 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Yeah, but still no BTS_WSH whaleshares for sales.
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Werhhhh12:00:03 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
BTS_WHALESHARE
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Werhhhh12:25:11 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Very offtopic, but there is not really a way to buy more steemmonsters cards, right?
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Stefan Schießl12:34:05 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Werhhh
Very offtopic, but there is not really a way to buy more steemmonsters cards, right?
?
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R12:40:56 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Werhhh
Very offtopic, but there is not really a way to buy more steemmonsters cards, right?
Check their website
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funkit12:54:45 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
paathi
Yeah, but still no BTS_WSH whaleshares for sales.
Correct ticker will be WLS.
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Abit More16:02:32 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
thought it's eos
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Hey dear
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thought it's eos
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This is a update version
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the thing is
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eostwitter stopped spamming their network
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organic
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Aleksandar Mahovac17:01:23 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
abitmore
downloadbot stopped spamming BitShares network
Oh so this is the real chart
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Aleksandar Mahovac17:01:42 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Nice to see that
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Aleksandar Mahovac17:02:01 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Steem was always constant
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Omar17:52:54 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I am pretty sure I am looking at the right whaleshares market in bts dex but no body is selling anymore.
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Pate Patelincho17:54:06 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
its whaleshare without s
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nutela19:24:34 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Still though the referral system far over pays, the majority of these fees should be redirected to bring back "x% on anything" from btsx days
Hey CM, I claimed #vesting balances, some 500 $BTS, don’t remember refering anyone..
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fav19:25:16 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
80% of fees above threshold go to vesting balance too
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Almond Rocca19:31:16 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
@nut3l4 maybe the #vesting balances is all from your trades since 2017?
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Almond Rocca19:31:25 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
have you been a LTM for more than a year?
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Almond Rocca19:31:35 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
LTM is like a rebate program?
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nutela19:32:29 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
80% of fees above threshold go to vesting balance too
500 $ABTS is quite nice, I haven’t been #LTM for so long… I think not a year for sure… Around winter..
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Almond Rocca19:32:31 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
bitshares dex has a very smart incentive program built in
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Almond Rocca19:33:13 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
there appears to be a lot of goodies hidden in bitshares dex that are not obvious to people from the outside. everyone goes to the big new names and central exchanges but i think the gold is here
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Almond Rocca19:33:55 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
everyone is trying to build stable coins and they already exist in bitshares dex
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Almond Rocca19:34:41 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
its seems the only short coming is the UI is not so easy to use and there is a bit of a learning curve.
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Almond Rocca19:45:42 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
its seems the only short coming is the UI is not so easy to use and there is a bit of a learning curve.
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nutela19:45:42 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Isn’t there like an easy interface? I
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Alex M - clockwork19:46:10 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
nut3l4
Isn’t there like an easy interface? I’m sure I saw that
There's a worker to build one
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nutela19:49:45 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
There's a worker to build one
Cool but I clearly remember a menu item switching from __easy__ to full or something
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Matt Johnson19:59:32 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Slightly off topic, but has anyone heard from Solomon and how that sollywood or sollar's and sense project is going?
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nutela20:00:13 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Willie Wang forget #BitShares
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nutela20:00:42 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
(talking about #stableCoins
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nutela20:01:03 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mjohnson1
Slightly off topic, but has anyone heard from Solomon and how that sollywood or sollar's and sense project is going?
No! But I wondered about that not long ago
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Matt Johnson20:04:32 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
That project has been going on for years, with the guy constantly delaying even starting the thing... they were supposed to have a "kickstarter" like 2 years ago... which never happened. He sucked quite a few early BTSer's into his project... I'm guessing it was a scam the whole time
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Dave Scotese20:05:17 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Because io runs on whaleshares which sharedropped on bts. Better claim your sharedrop before the deadline is met
Do you have a link that explains more? I don't understand you.
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Dave Scotese20:08:43 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
And I still don't know which came first, io or org. Am I right that io was first and someone who doesn't like "whale shares" created org?
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R20:10:05 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
dscotese
And I still don't know which came first, io or org. Am I right that io was first and someone who doesn't like "whale shares" created org?
Org was first, just a forum, io came later and runs on a blockchain
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nutela20:19:20 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Sheesh, Willie Wang from Abra is explaining BitShares as it his great invention 🤦♂️
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nutela20:19:20 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Willie Wang forgot #BitShares #LTC live stream from today
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nutela20:20:29 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mjohnson1
That project has been going on for years, with the guy constantly delaying even starting the thing... they were supposed to have a "kickstarter" like 2 years ago... which never happened. He sucked quite a few early BTSer's into his project... I'm guessing it was a scam the whole time
I actually talked to him.. Solomon is like big mouth, defening his viewpoints… 😂
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R20:23:17 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
nut3l4
Willie Wang forgot #BitShares #LTC live stream from today
🤦♂
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nutela20:44:31 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
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Is that a facepalm? 😂
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$bitUSD $BitUSD
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nutela20:44:50 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
$BITUSD
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nutela20:46:46 - 14 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Still no social feeds for CMC.. https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitusd/#social
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Mjohnson1
That project has been going on for years, with the guy constantly delaying even starting the thing... they were supposed to have a "kickstarter" like 2 years ago... which never happened. He sucked quite a few early BTSer's into his project... I'm guessing it was a scam the whole time
Yup I flagged him right at the beginning. Can't believe that many people got fooled by that shit .. but then again I've seen worst :)
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AKIN TAKKALI05:14:10 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
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Cool but I clearly remember a menu item switching from easy to full or something
Openledger had a simple/advanced switch
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Yup I flagged him right at the beginning. Can't believe that many people got fooled by that shit .. but then again I've seen worst :)
Guy was a smooth talker with a quick answer to every question...
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evolution12:57:01 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hello! Why I can not see charts in Bitshares last version .180912
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evolution12:57:23 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
refresh do not help
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almondrocca
everyone is trying to build stable coins and they already exist in bitshares dex
its all About control
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Stefan Schießl13:50:34 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
evolution7
Any errors in browser console?
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Probably from the api server not supporting 1D time-frame, try changing it or changing the server
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JonnyB17:58:26 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Bitcrab now wants to disable force settlement and global settlement. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=27170.0
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JonnyB18:01:36 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
if anything we need to return force settlement offset back to 1% from the temporary 5% he changed it to a year ago
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evolution18:02:18 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Any errors in browser console?
Can not find the console. Anyway It appeared alredy afrter a week of absence
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fav18:07:53 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
Bitcrab now wants to disable force settlement and global settlement. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=27170.0
he should just make a private MPA and leave bitcny for good
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JonnyB18:08:31 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
yes exactly
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George (Bitspark)18:10:23 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
Bitcrab now wants to disable force settlement and global settlement. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=27170.0
Wow Terrible.
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funkit18:13:59 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Isn't he behind the squared cny?
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R20:21:28 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
funkit
Isn't he behind the squared cny?
Don't think so
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Abit More20:24:30 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
IMHO bitcny now works fine
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Abit More20:25:15 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
why resist potential optimization?
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Stefan Schießl20:27:05 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
abitmore
why resist potential optimization?
Going to fractional reserve breaks the SmartCoin promise
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JonnyB20:28:58 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Optimization for who?
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JonnyB20:32:31 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
If bitcrab changes the parameters of bitassets every year then we can't except people to trust our stablecoins.
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Alex M - clockwork20:34:21 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Depends on what is called an optimisation
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Alex M - clockwork20:35:31 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I like the tighter peg...and seems to work so far although I want to see it work as well over time...assuming people have their feeds implemented well...it's better for bitassets which is crucial for bts overall
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Alex M - clockwork20:35:57 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Disabling/removing global settlement though...totally different story
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Stefan Schießl20:40:10 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
I like the tighter peg...and seems to work so far although I want to see it work as well over time...assuming people have their feeds implemented well...it's better for bitassets which is crucial for bts overall
Just my thoughts. Chinese Community already suggests to move to bitUSD as well
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=26966.msg322374#msg322374
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Alex M - clockwork20:41:18 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Bit worried about the lower liquidity
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Stefan Schießl20:41:37 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Maybe I am too conservative, but I d like to see a stable codebase for at least one or two weeks
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Alex M - clockwork20:41:43 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
BUT earlier today, bitusd was at 9% premium
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Alex M - clockwork20:41:51 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
So I get the reasoning
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Stefan Schießl20:41:53 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Also performance in a bull market maybe
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Alex M - clockwork20:42:05 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Yep, agreed
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Alex M - clockwork20:42:37 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I'm not convinced all witnesses have their feeds tuned to all eventualities
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Alex M - clockwork20:43:20 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hell..not convinced about mine and I pretty much paused all other work to research and work on it for the last week
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Stefan Schießl20:46:55 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Force settlement offset is also witness fed right?
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Stefan Schießl20:47:48 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
Hell..not convinced about mine and I pretty much paused all other work to research and work on it for the last week
Force settlement offset is also witness fed right?
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Alex M - clockwork20:47:49 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
No
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Alex M - clockwork20:47:54 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Committee
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Alex M - clockwork20:47:59 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Oh wait
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Alex M - clockwork20:48:04 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Where did that go?
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Alex M - clockwork20:48:29 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Telegram fucking up
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Alex M - clockwork20:48:42 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Your msg disappeared and reappeared
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Alex M - clockwork20:48:54 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Offset is committee set
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Stefan Schießl20:49:00 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
Telegram fucking up
No I deleted it and put it as a reply to your statement so you get pinged :)
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Alex M - clockwork20:49:03 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mssr and mcr are witness fed
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Alex M - clockwork20:51:57 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Fwiw
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Alex M - clockwork20:52:15 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Bitusd at 12% premium according to cmc
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Alex M - clockwork20:52:41 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
That doesn't help a supposed stablecoin
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Alex M - clockwork20:53:55 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
So I get the point of bsip42...
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Alex M - clockwork20:54:15 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Basically creating a 2way peg of sorts
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Alex M - clockwork20:54:54 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Feed to keep premium at minimum
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Alex M - clockwork20:55:19 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
And gs to keep a downward peg
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Alex M - clockwork20:55:30 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Just gotta strike the right balance
HC
Hairy Canary20:55:35 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
...i am naive but as a trader i viewbit usd bitcny as assets that i use in trades or for storing capital to be used for buying later ...
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Alex M - clockwork20:56:12 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
hairycanary
...i am naive but as a trader i view bit usd bitcny as assets that i use in trades or for storing capital to be used for buying later ...
Yes...at the same time , a true stablecoin should keep it's peg as much h as possible
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Alex M - clockwork20:57:01 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
And right now you need 1.12 USD to buy 1 bitusd
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Alex M - clockwork20:57:14 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
That's no good
HC
Hairy Canary20:58:13 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
yes...so maybe there should be two diff entities since the making a profit from trading in bitusd seems diametrically opposed to it being 'stable'...cant make any real $ trading something stable, eh?
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Alex M - clockwork20:58:46 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
hairycanary
yes...so maybe there should be two diff entities since the making a profit from trading in bitusd seems diametrically opposed to it being 'stable'...cant make any real $ trading something stable, eh?
Yes you can
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Alex M - clockwork20:59:15 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
But you're right...it's not stable if it swings 15%
HC
Hairy Canary20:59:22 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
...i mean by hi freq trading...
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Alex M - clockwork20:59:31 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Gotcha
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Hairy Canary21:01:09 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
idk, i just see opportunity in trading bitusd n cny, so to me the stability component isn't as important...that's all
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Hairy Canary21:02:21 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
btw since i hooked on to canada6 node i have less out of syncs and fine latency...where canada6 located?
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Alex M - clockwork21:08:44 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
@murda_ra
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Crypto Kong21:15:36 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Increasing the supply of smart coins would also help maintain the peg as the price would move less when they are bought/ sold. So increasing the supply is another avenue that should perhaps be looked into more as this is an option that doesnt require messing around with the mechanics
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Crypto Kong21:16:30 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
or would a higher supply just attract bigger trades and your in the same situation?
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Crypto Kong21:16:33 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
hmmm
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Abit More21:25:38 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Increasing the supply of smart coins would also help maintain the peg as the price would move less when they are bought/ sold. So increasing the supply is another avenue that should perhaps be looked into more as this is an option that doesnt require messing around with the mechanics
supply is affected by the algorithm
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Abit More21:26:21 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
need certain amount of collateral to create the supply
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Crypto Kong21:27:59 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i had a feeling the answer wouldnt be as easy as i was hoping lol
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John R21:30:21 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
@Cryptokong123 there are a lot of conversations seeking to address this same issue
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Nedu21:30:31 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
As farmer would say bts needs to be worth high for bit asswts to fly
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Crypto Kong21:31:19 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
john_robert
@Cryptokong123 there are a lot of conversations seeking to address this same issue
seems that way, ive seen a couple of thread on the forum
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Crypto Kong21:32:13 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
nedupaul
As farmer would say bts needs to be worth high for bit asswts to fly
that relies on all the people who bought bts cheap, creating smart coins as they would be able to create more for their bts
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Crypto Kong21:32:24 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
which may not happen
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Crypto Kong21:32:50 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
but a high price would certainly make it more likely
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Nedu21:36:25 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
High price is why dai is succeding on eth
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Crypto Kong21:43:40 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
with regards to the peg, it seems the best solution would be a fiat$-bitUSD market, which would allow arbitrage trades to keep it in balance
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Crypto Kong21:44:01 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
easier said then done
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Jonathan Bahai21:51:37 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
with regards to the peg, it seems the best solution would be a fiat$-bitUSD market, which would allow arbitrage trades to keep it in balance
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Alex M - clockwork21:52:15 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
with regards to the peg, it seems the best solution would be a fiat$-bitUSD market, which would allow arbitrage trades to keep it in balance
Fiat to bitusd could make the premium even higher as it directly exposes the lack of supply
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Alex M - clockwork21:52:38 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Judging by magicwallets bitcny/cny maeket
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Crypto Kong21:52:38 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
hmmm
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Alex M - clockwork21:53:26 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Your point would stand if it was simply a liquidity/arbitrage issue
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Crypto Kong21:53:37 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
but surely if the price goes over... people just create bitusd sell it at a premium, make free money, pay off debt, crete more and repeat till its in balance again
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Alex M - clockwork21:53:40 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
But we have a massive supply shortage too
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Alex M - clockwork21:53:55 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
A USD/bitusd market would increase demand
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Alex M - clockwork21:54:18 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
but surely if the price goes over... people just create bitusd sell it at a premium, make free money, pay off debt, crete more and repeat till its in balance again
How do they pay off debt?
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Crypto Kong21:54:36 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
oh right yeah youve moved into fiat
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Alex M - clockwork21:54:38 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Where do they buy bitusd from to close their position?
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Crypto Kong21:54:39 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
hmmm
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Crypto Kong21:54:58 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
need to think more on this
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Alex M - clockwork21:55:00 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
:)
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Crypto Kong21:55:03 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
lol
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Alex M - clockwork21:55:04 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
No shit
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Alex M - clockwork21:55:20 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
We all have been researching it
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Crypto Kong21:55:46 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
not just you guys a lot of people in the industry
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Alex M - clockwork21:55:51 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Bsip42 is actually a decent way to fix it
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Alex M - clockwork21:56:03 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
It's a bet of sorts
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Crypto Kong21:56:16 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
yeah i read it earlier
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Crypto Kong21:56:32 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
certainly a step in the right direction
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Crypto Kong21:56:44 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i agree with stefan that it needs more time to prove itself though
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Alex M - clockwork21:56:49 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Yep
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Alex M - clockwork21:56:57 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
It's a bet as I said
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Alex M - clockwork21:58:23 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
You're kinda telling the market , you say this asset is worth more than what it's being backed by and what is being backed by is not worth as much as the asset suggest, so which is it?
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Crypto Kong21:58:24 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i wonder if there was a way to create another bitUSD a bit like the sinwave one, that could be created in order to help with arbitrage
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Crypto Kong21:59:25 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
i wonder if there was a way to create another bitUSD a bit like the sinwave one, that could be created in order to help with arbitrage
so like it mirrors bitusd but does the opposite, so if bitusd is up 5% the similar coin drops 5%
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Jam PR21:59:43 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
does anybody know what all the conversions are to get the real # for asset quantities traded? This is for when I download my account history ... how do I get the actual number of say bitUSD or open.MAID? there is a divisor for each asset ( like 10000 or 100000 ... how do I find the value for all bts tokens?
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angelika21:59:56 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
i wonder if there was a way to create another bitUSD a bit like the sinwave one, that could be created in order to help with arbitrage
How much Bitcoin??
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Alex M - clockwork22:00:00 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
so like it mirrors bitusd but does the opposite, so if bitusd is up 5% the similar coin drops 5%
Bytemaster had considered this at some point
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Crypto Kong22:00:08 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
angelika777
How much Bitcoin??
can someone ban this user please
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Alex M - clockwork22:00:25 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
But it messed with bts fixed supply
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Crypto Kong22:00:39 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
hmmm
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Alex M - clockwork22:00:48 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
A reverse bitusd
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Alex M - clockwork22:01:12 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
So you could lock up bitusd as collateral to borrow new bts
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Crypto Kong22:01:28 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
ah well... might turn out we all wasting our time if he creates one on eos we can port over to bitshares
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Alex M - clockwork22:01:51 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I mean he considered it during his bitshares days
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Alex M - clockwork22:02:00 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
No idea what he's working on now
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Crypto Kong22:02:01 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
how does it mess with the supply? i dont get that
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Crypto Kong22:02:13 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
No idea what he's working on now
i dunno i just saw a screen shot...
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Alex M - clockwork22:02:23 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Because you'd borrow new bts into existence
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Alex M - clockwork22:02:32 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Increasing total supply
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Crypto Kong22:03:25 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
im not sure i follow...
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Crypto Kong22:04:17 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
well anyway... no worries its late here, certainly an interesting and tricky subject
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R22:12:27 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
abitmore
why resist potential optimization?
Disabling key functionality isn't optimization, it's bailing out shorters from being settled upon. If you can't perform a force settlement then it might as well have no backing collateral 👎
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R22:12:39 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
i wonder if there was a way to create another bitUSD a bit like the sinwave one, that could be created in order to help with arbitrage
If you can create a python price feed script for it then sure
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Sophia Smith22:13:17 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
Where do they buy bitusd from to close their position?
I km now how to get it
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JonnyB22:22:05 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
BitUSD wouldn't be in short supply if it used bitcoin instead of BTS as collateral
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JonnyB22:23:34 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
A USD/bitusd market would increase demand
There is BitUSD/USDT
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JonnyB22:34:57 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Bitusd can't fall below it's peg -1% because it you can always force settle it. As for it going over it's peg then there could be open market operations that sell bitusd if it goes above 5%. Trouble is bitcrab is also running the open market operations aswell.
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Abit More22:35:48 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
nedupaul
High price is why dai is succeding on eth
It's true they're getting pumped recently. They haven't encounter dumping as BTS had (quite a few times). IMHO they're not proven successful. I'd admit they're a good competitor.
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JonnyB22:35:49 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Theres a big conflict of interests in him doing it.
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JonnyB22:37:29 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
A bitcoin backed USD stable coin will beat dai and bitusd because of the huge liquidity bitcoin has.
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Abit More22:41:33 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I guess you're talking about nonsense
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Abit More22:42:09 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
bitcoin protocol doesn't support any kind of backing or backed asset
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John R22:43:58 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
BitUSD wouldn't be in short supply if it used bitcoin instead of BTS as collateral
Why is that? And how would you secure BTC with BTS chain?
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JonnyB22:45:04 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
abitmore
bitcoin protocol doesn't support any kind of backing or backed asset
It doesn't exist yet. But someone will make it.
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Abit More22:46:31 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
then go for it
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Abit More22:46:37 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
why're you here?
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Abit More22:46:41 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
;P
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Nedu22:47:01 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
john_robert
Why is that? And how would you secure BTC with BTS chain?
How does it benefit bts holders
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JonnyB22:47:20 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
If bitshares can find away to do a trustless bitcoin gateway then we can easily create one.
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JonnyB22:47:47 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
nedupaul
How does it benefit bts holders
Fees would still be paid in BTS
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Abit More22:47:51 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
it's a "if".
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JonnyB22:48:02 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Yes it's an if
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Abit More22:48:41 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
btc can get dumped as well.
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Abit More22:48:59 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
even if we have a trustless gateway
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Abit More22:49:14 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
then margin calls, premiums, black swan can occur
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Abit More22:49:51 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
btc maxilists won't deposit to BitShares anyway.
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JonnyB22:50:29 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
They would if it was a trustless gateway
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Abit More22:51:16 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
they won't believe it's trustless
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JonnyB22:51:52 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Not sure it will ever be 100% trustless
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JonnyB22:52:42 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
There must be so many people out there who would like to borrow against their BTC
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Abit More22:54:38 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I don't think it would be more than BTS holders who like to borrow
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Abit More22:55:37 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
if bitcoin supports native borrowing that's another story
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JonnyB22:56:04 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Bitcoin never will natively
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JonnyB22:57:27 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
But someome will make a trustless BTC sidechain to create a bitcoin backed USD
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JonnyB22:57:34 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Maybe rsk
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JonnyB22:58:41 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
But I don't see why bitshares shouldn't try and do it
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Crypto Kong23:07:41 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I remember reading that salt lending had a massive waiting list of people wanting to borrow against their crypto
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Crypto Kong23:08:58 - 15 Sep 2018 [UTC]
That was quite a while ago though and in the height of the bull run i think
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btw since i hooked on to canada6 node i have less out of syncs and fine latency...where canada6 located?
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C.P. Bentley Pixel 🇧🇪08:55:19 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
abitmore
they won't believe it's trustless
sorry but does bts have atomic swap and htlc?
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C.P. Bentley Pixel 🇧🇪08:55:27 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
if not.. no trustlessness
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C.P. Bentley Pixel 🇧🇪08:56:05 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i am working om another coin and i am pushing for protocol changes to implement htlc
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C.P. Bentley Pixel 🇧🇪08:56:19 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
you guys need atomic swaps really badly too
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C.P. Bentley Pixel 🇧🇪08:56:57 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
anyone can see if you have trustlessness
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C.P. Bentley Pixel 🇧🇪08:58:03 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
friendly from a small hodler of bts bag
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Digital Lucife®09:05:37 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cpbentley
sorry but does bts have atomic swap and htlc?
since BitShares has no gateway of his own - dont see use of swaps. Gateways - sure.
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Alex M - clockwork09:06:21 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cpbentley
sorry but does bts have atomic swap and htlc?
Should do by winter
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C.P. Bentley Pixel 🇧🇪09:06:39 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
Should do by winter
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C.P. Bentley Pixel 🇧🇪09:07:01 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
murda_ra
since BitShares has no gateway of his own - dont see use of swaps. Gateways - sure.
as is for dex trading
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C.P. Bentley Pixel 🇧🇪09:07:17 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
with other coins
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Digital Lucife®09:10:05 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
atomic swap is for trading ?
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Stefan Schießl09:16:41 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cpbentley
atomic swap is for dex trading
HTLC is coming up in next protocol upgrade, bsip already voted in
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JonnyB09:34:51 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
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Abit More09:44:29 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
HTLC is coming up in next protocol upgrade, bsip already voted in
Already?
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Crypto Kong10:13:42 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
murda_ra
Warning - fake and completely retarded version of Alex account
Lol nice response 😂
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JonnyB10:14:00 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/pull/104
DL
Digital Lucife®10:14:57 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Lol nice response 😂
:D Sunday morning of a beautiful week and with a breakfast he is coming as desert :)
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Crypto Kong10:15:07 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
murda_ra
:D Sunday morning of a beautiful week and with a breakfast he is coming as desert :)
Lol 😂
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Crypto Kong10:15:27 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
HTLC is coming up in next protocol upgrade, bsip already voted in
I didnt realise so soon, thats great news
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Digital Lucife®10:16:00 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Nevermind, important part is that Alex is popular as soon as he is getting cloned :D
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fav10:20:44 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
it's a bit weird if the fakes contact the real users
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funkit10:21:08 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
A bitter sweet honor
SS
Stefan Schießl11:17:07 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
abitmore
Already?
I suppose you know better, maybe I was too enthusiastic? I thought it is on the roadmap. Please clarify :)
MM
Mike Manderfeen11:17:44 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I think it was before me, since it closed after i got on to bitshares
But how come there isnt or cant be a USD gateway?
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Crypto Kong11:18:19 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mike Manderfeen
I think it was before me, since it closed after i got on to bitshares
But how come there isnt or cant be a USD gateway?
there is one on easydex
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Crypto Kong11:18:38 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/easydex
MM
Mike Manderfeen11:19:26 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
there is one on easydex
Hmm ill look into it thanks
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Crypto Kong11:20:34 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mike Manderfeen
Hmm ill look into it thanks
ive deposited with them twice succesfully in case you were wondering
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R11:23:41 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
ive deposited with them twice succesfully in case you were wondering
Added benefit of email stored passwords for easy recovery 🤣
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funkit11:27:02 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
New version for dark backgrounds
MM
Mike Manderfeen11:28:14 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
ive deposited with them twice succesfully in case you were wondering
Yeah i just finished reading the white paper and a couple steemit posts
Is there a withdrawl limit? Or any KYC needed?
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Abit More11:28:35 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
I suppose you know the facts better, maybe I was too enthusiastic? I thought it is on the roadmap for next release. Please clarify :)
BSIP40 is voted in. not HTLC
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Abit More11:31:45 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
just knew there is a new website https://how.bitshares.works/
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Abit More11:31:52 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
doc site.
MM
Mike Manderfeen11:33:28 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Lameeeee it looks like easydex has KYC for fiat withdrawls
HC
Hairy Canary11:43:28 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mike Manderfeen
Lameeeee it looks like easydex has KYC for fiat withdrawls
...name one dex that doesnt...
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Crypto Kong11:47:34 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mike Manderfeen
Yeah i just finished reading the white paper and a couple steemit posts
Is there a withdrawl limit? Or any KYC needed?
i think you need to register for withdrawels but not deposits, info is on the website
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Jane karen12:26:42 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
ahmed .
later ı see that ı wirte wrong
Hmmmm, you were in a rush
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fav13:16:10 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://youtu.be/kLp9ZhwlsII?t=31m worbli says they're working on a project with BTS? anyone got any details?
LP
Lara Peters13:43:57 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I can help , if you have issues with your bitcoin or litecoin or etherum wallet
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Connor - Crypto bitmex14:38:48 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Bitmex short signals
Information is more expensive than just a money😏
This channel was created to provide exclusive inside information💎
https://t.me/bitmexshort
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kenCode14:48:54 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/pull/104
👍🏼👍🏼
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Connor - Crypto bitmex14:52:46 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Bitmex short signals
Information is more expensive than just a money😏
This channel was created to provide exclusive inside information💎
https://t.me/bitmexshort
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fav15:36:20 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://whaleshares.io/cryptobridge/@fav/cryptobridge-scam-alert
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Abit More15:40:11 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Wtf
HB
Haider Boubakri15:41:25 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
t.me/Claim_with_me_bot?start=579969843
HB
Haider Boubakri15:41:29 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
t.me/Claim_with_me_bot?start=579969843
HB
Haider Boubakri15:41:33 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
t.me/Claim_with_me_bot?start=579969843
JB
Jonathan Bahai15:56:13 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://youtu.be/xABO3BKUxG8
JB
Jonathan Bahai15:57:40 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
This vs. Bitassets.. pros and cons? https://www.tiberiuscoin.com/
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fav15:59:05 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
apples and bananas
は
はるか15:59:49 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
couldn't find the fake cryptobridge app in google play... region locked?
JR
John R16:04:29 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
JBahai
This vs. Bitassets.. pros and cons? https://www.tiberiuscoin.com/
Digital native vs physical banking. Apples and oranges yes
JB
Jonathan Bahai16:09:48 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
john_robert
Digital native vs physical backing. Apples and oranges yes
How do you explain that to the market?
HC
Hairy Canary16:35:30 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
john_robert
Digital native vs physical backing. Apples and oranges yes
where does one find the daily volume stats per each gateway dex associated with bitsharesDEX? how much vol per day per each of the gateway dex's... vs the DEX itself..??
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funkit16:36:51 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Coinmarketcap
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funkit16:44:50 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
JBahai
How do you explain that to the market?
By settling an ounce of gold and get liquid bts. Eh... well... if that global settlement was solved...
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Gas17:03:42 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
SOIL (Cryptopia Exchange),,
#soil-btc rumors be listed in a new exchange which has good volume
Buy now and sell at 200-400% 🤑🤑
HC
Hairy Canary17:10:28 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
volume per dex: day week month from cmc
CryptoBridge 1,634,507 9,771,917 44,569,691
OpenLedger 56,509 1,622,006 10,060,630
RuDEX 66 367 1,832
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fav17:11:01 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
you're missing bitshares
HC
Hairy Canary17:11:07 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
no mention of DEX vol itself, nor any other such as SparkDex or EasyDex or GDEx
HC
Hairy Canary17:11:25 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
you're missing bitshares
i dont see it showing on cmc
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fav17:11:37 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
87 BitShares Asset Exchange BitShares Ass... $2,165,255 $2,165,255 $24,280,525 $96,084,388
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fav17:11:38 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i do
HC
Hairy Canary17:12:11 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
87 BitShares Asset Exchange BitShares Ass... $2,165,255 $2,165,255 $24,280,525 $96,084,388
is that us? its not bts logo??
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fav17:12:36 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
yea
HC
Hairy Canary17:13:11 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
K...thanks... was wondering about that..
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Binance Customer Service17:23:36 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
We are thankful for your support, we’ve got a little something for our members.
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To participate and read our competition rules. Message the customer support @binance_customer_support
Please note that you can use any EXCHANGE or WALLET in this event.
Thanks for your support!
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Zhang17:31:48 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hello guys
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Zhang17:32:01 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I made money on one crypto exchange
But since I'm from China, I was blocked on all these exchanges
Who can help me withdraw BTC please? Write me
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fav17:32:36 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
not sure if scam or real
Z
Zhang17:33:20 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Really...
Z
Zhang17:33:31 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Im noob from crypto
Z
Zhang17:35:13 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
so who can help me not free
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fav17:35:33 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
wallet.bitshares.org can help you
F
fav17:35:35 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
use it
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Zhang17:36:02 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i will look it
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Mathew17:42:45 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Felonink
I made money on one crypto exchange
But since I'm from China, I was blocked on all these exchanges
Who can help me withdraw BTC please? Write me
Send me 1BTC so I know you're serious. I'll then send you 30 ETH and we will know we can trust each other
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Mathew17:44:29 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mike Manderfeen
Hmm ill look into it thanks
I can also vouch for easyDex, made a pretty a big transfer with them a few months bag - no issue
HC
Hairy Canary17:52:36 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
matle85
Send me 1BTC so I know you're serious. I'll then send you 30 ETH and we will know we can trust each other
usd fiat? i will b doing same but from canada
HC
Hairy Canary17:56:10 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
now he is pm me for help....duhhhh..
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Zhang17:56:10 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I have a small amount of money for one of the crypto exchange
But since I'm from China, I was blocked at all crypto exchanges,
we have this strictly and now my money is stuck and I can not withdraw them
Can I ask you to withdraw this money? I'll just transfer this money to you on this exchange, and you bring them to your wallet, For the help I'm ready to pay 0.3 BTC
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fav17:57:32 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
scammer
F
fav17:57:33 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
banned
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funkit18:03:22 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
They still go on with the same script. The end game is to make you log on to some site I never heard of.
F
fav18:03:34 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
yup
HC
Hairy Canary18:09:10 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
thanks
M
Mathew18:13:32 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
It just cycles through, people copying and pasting the same text. You've got to wonder if it ever works.
M
Mathew18:17:35 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Altho that said I did get excited about someone with a username 'Elon Musk' joining the telegram group when I was new to telegram groups so who am I to judge...
M
Mathew18:17:35 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I'm probably ripe for the scamming
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funkit18:39:09 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Just don't click any links leading to unknown territories. Then you can tease them for a while. I asked one of the cute ladies today how much hashpower was necessary to mine .2 btc per day. Then she went quiet.
HB
Haider Boubakri21:05:24 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/earn_bitchcoin
My official channel 😂
HW
Hersley Wilkinson22:04:54 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
matle85
I'm probably ripe for the scamming
You were scammed ??
T
Tamer22:10:15 - 16 Sep 2018 [UTC]
/connect_group@IFTTT
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julian01:13:12 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hello,
I want to buy Bitcoins at a very attractive rate. If there's anyone here who wish to sell bitcoin at good rate/value, kindly private message me. Only serious minded.
Trade will be done via Escrow
KL
Kristin Low01:57:48 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
julian
Hello,
I want to buy Bitcoins at a very attractive rate. If there's anyone here who wish to sell bitcoin at good rate/value, kindly private message me. Only serious minded.
Trade will be done via Escrow
Use 👏👏 the 👏 DEX 👏👏
S
STEEMGOD02:05:46 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
@Kristin_Spark lmao 👍👍
S
STEEMGOD02:05:55 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
lmao 👍👍
TS
Tina Smith02:28:08 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hey there
K
Kings02:37:32 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://steemit.com/bitshares/@kingscrown/got-problems-on-bitshares-dexes
TS
Tina Smith02:39:54 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hey
O
OgreAbroad / Yeti Cave03:14:25 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Herrow!
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fav04:43:32 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
kingskingsking
https://steemit.com/bitshares/@kingscrown/got-problems-on-bitshares-dexes
I got 99 problems but a Bitsh ain't one
SS
Stefan Schießl05:27:10 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
I got 99 problems but a Bitsh ain't one
😅
S
Sylvia05:28:35 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Привет, могу ли я присоединиться к российской группе?
SS
Stefan Schießl05:29:00 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sylvia_h
Привет, могу ли я присоединиться к российской группе?
English please
S
Sylvia05:30:23 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hello, can I join the Russian group?
F
funkit05:39:38 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sylvia_h
Hello, can I join the Russian group?
Try here:
https://t.me/BitSharesDEX_RU
S
Sylvia05:39:54 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Thanks
J
Jakub05:40:27 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
telegram Faucet: 100-900 satoshi every 35 seconds. Tip: download autoclicker and let him do the work ;)
https://t.me/BTC_Faucet_bot?start=430994419
J
Jakub05:40:33 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
telegram Faucet: 100-900 satoshi every 35 seconds. Tip: download autoclicker and let him do the work ;)
https://t.me/BTC_Faucet_bot?start=430994419
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Binuaral Beats06:28:03 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
FarmerD
Haha
E
Eileen_Fans06:56:25 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hi, is there anyone knows AEX?
S
Sylvia07:22:56 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
No
E
Eileen_Fans07:44:26 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I heard that it can provide free BTS everyday if you put your coins on it, I am wondering is this a cooperation way between BTS and AEX?
VC
Valera Cogut07:46:41 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sylvia_h
Привет, могу ли я присоединиться к российской группе?
@BitSharesDEX_RU тут русская группа и тут можешь
S
stepollo07:57:40 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
harukaff_bot
couldn't find the fake cryptobridge app in google play... region locked?
i think has been removed after many reports
AH
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AH
Alex Hunter08:01:18 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Are you tired of working from 8AM to 5PM, working hard for hours enriching someone else while you get a little pay for your efforts.
🏠🏝Work from home from today and become your own boss.
All you need is a PC or Android Phone. 📱💻
Let's Invest and Trade and plan for our future so we could live out our desired lifestyle.
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$1,000 gets $10,000
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はるか08:04:57 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
stepollo
i think has been removed after many reports
found that one on some apk site, analyzed a little and found that the app is already not usable
LP
lakshan perera08:09:09 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
These are the things that can be found by those who are interested in bitcoin and bitcoin.
The value of the bitcoin now is around 6,225.17 USD. This value is increasing and not decreasing. So, bitcoin mining is much harder than early in the bitcoin implements. Now, bitcoin mining is a very difficult thing, because when prices increase, mining difficulties increase, so today we're mine The number of devices that mining these devices is very expensive can not be found the next day. For example, https://www.amazon.com/AntMiner-S9-13-0TH-0-09…/…/B01HFXQ7AG .
In the early days, if you had a CPU or GPU (a graphic card on your computer), a little bitcoin could be found. It's using a separate software. But in this way, mining can damage your computer 's performance.
So this has improved the bitcoin mining and now you have added to your chrome browser. This mining is done using your chrome browser using a script.
So this is what I'm going to say, and I will not have a profit if you do not have to, but you do not need to spend your time mining, because when you wait on the Internet, your socket is added to your wallet.
Now I want to say what to do.
The name of the site - cryptotab, this has started to become a while, but when it comes to what you do not know, it's possible to understand what it means to be able to add new addons, add it to our browser, and now they are a new technology Using chrome, the only way is to create a browser. You will have to install by browsing as usual.
First, go here - https://get.cryptobrowser.site/1651120
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Abit More08:28:39 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
eileenfan
I heard that it can provide free BTS everyday if you put your coins on it, I am wondering is this a cooperation way between BTS and AEX?
Their own
GH
George Helmut08:59:51 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hi guys, how are you doing
I and a team of miners own a colo. we mine at a good hash rate. You can earn over 5BTC in a mining pool. All you need to do is get registered. Message me for more info.
EA
Esther Afolabi09:48:34 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Join our telegram group for the best bitcoin signal https://t.me/trueinvestmentforum
EA
Esther Afolabi09:49:35 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Join our telegram group for the best bitcoin signal https://t.me/trueinvestmentforum
JH
Jones Henry09:56:28 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Earn bitcoin daily from this money making website 😍😍😍
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JH
Jones Henry09:59:15 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Earn bitcoin daily from this money making website 😍😍😍
https://www.bitcoin-miner.win
HB
Haider Boubakri10:55:33 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
t.me/cloud_mining_hashfire_bot?start=579969843
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Albert11:40:34 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I can increase your channel members
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Send me a message to buy
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Greg Ward13:04:58 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/Extradersgroup
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sqile13:05:35 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
new trading bot free only now, pm me
RM
Ricky Matt13:20:12 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I can make your portfolio 6X with in few hours massage me how ...😊
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FarmerD13:21:39 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Ricky Matt
I can make your portfolio 6X with in few hours massage me how ...😊
oh pretty please 😍
RM
Ricky Matt13:22:40 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
FarmerD
oh pretty please 😍
Message me
F
FarmerD13:23:12 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Ricky Matt
Message me
lol, i don't think so
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funkit13:28:15 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Ricky Matt
I can make your portfolio 6X with in few hours massage me how ...😊
Go some place else with fairytales
P
PowerPics {Whaleshares.io}{EOSTalk.io}13:30:00 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
⌚Let's see how long it takes FAV to drop the BAN hammer on Ricky 😂
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Alex M - clockwork13:30:27 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
not just fav around :P
P
PowerPics {Whaleshares.io}{EOSTalk.io}13:34:28 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
not just fav around :P
True - but he is brutally no nonsense 😆
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Alex M - clockwork13:34:40 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
good
P
PowerPics {Whaleshares.io}{EOSTalk.io}13:53:39 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
😂
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fav13:55:32 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Steem down?
W
Werhhhh13:55:45 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Yes
F
fav13:56:41 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hf20 was a full success it seems
AM
Alex M - clockwork14:04:24 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
hahaha
F
funkit14:05:52 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
For your information, I dropped the hammer on Ricky.
AM
Alex M - clockwork14:07:02 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
funkit
For your information, I dropped the hammer on Ricky.
that was me actually
AM
Alex M - clockwork14:07:34 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
unless we timed it to teh same second
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funkit14:07:44 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Might be
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funkit14:15:43 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
But since it is blame Fav day, where is the gin? Cheers. 🐝
K
kenCode14:43:32 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Power_Pics
True - but he is brutally no nonsense 😆
👍🏼👍🏼🌶🌶
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Andy14:43:46 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Im looking support to our site
Who has experience dm me
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Cointroller14:51:46 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hey guys, anybody here know how many users we have at the dex rn? How many active ones, how many created a day? Those kind of stats, where can I get that kind of info?
AM
Alex M - clockwork14:53:05 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cointroller
Hey guys, anybody here know how many users we have at the dex rn? How many active ones, how many created a day? Those kind of stats, where can I get that kind of info?
about 13k active a day
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Cointroller14:54:01 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
about 13k active a day
Thank you so much Alex :) how can I verify that or get other stats?
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Alex M - clockwork14:55:03 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
about 1-1.5k created daily
AM
Alex M - clockwork14:55:21 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
best way is a Kibana frontend to an ES node
AM
Alex M - clockwork14:55:32 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I have one running here: bts-es.clockwork.gr
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viktor14:56:11 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hello mates
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Alex M - clockwork14:56:13 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
xeroc has already set up a bunch of visualisatiosn here: https://kibana.bitshares.eu/app/kibana#/visualize?_g=()
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Alex M - clockwork14:56:21 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
but i think that node might be out of sync
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viktor14:56:27 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
How y'all doing investor
F
fav14:56:57 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
hi admin
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viktor14:57:15 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Been a while, so happy to be back to the crypto world..
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Cointroller14:57:50 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
about 1-1.5k created daily
Thank you so much, di you know how many we have now? Total bts accounts?
AM
Alex M - clockwork14:58:06 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
if you go over a couple of kibana tutorials you should be abel to set up some visuals of your own
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Alex M - clockwork14:58:13 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
1.3 m or so
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Alex M - clockwork14:58:18 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
but most are unused
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viktor14:59:39 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Who has benefited from mining here..
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Cointroller14:59:45 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
if you go over a couple of kibana tutorials you should be abel to set up some visuals of your own
I would love to learn that, really appreciate this. I'll check it out.
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da Lexx15:00:22 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
osh_br
Who has benefited from mining here..
its easy to mine Bitshares. did you try ?
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viktor15:01:12 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
gzuz_342
its easy to mine Bitshares. did you try ?
Not at all.. am very much aware of bitcoins!!
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funkit15:01:50 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I mine 10 a day. It's ok.
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viktor15:02:24 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Someone do assist me in the mining though.. it's not as profitable as it used to be last year
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viktor15:02:43 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Buts it's still more profitable than trading!
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viktor15:03:01 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Trading could be messed up sometimes
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viktor15:03:21 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
funkit
I mine 10 a day. It's ok.
Cool.
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viktor15:03:28 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Will try it out then..
GB
Gregory Bernard15:04:34 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
HI
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Werhhhh15:04:43 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Wait you can mine bts?
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viktor15:05:12 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Werhhh
Wait you can mine bts?
Have someone that assists me!!
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viktor15:05:15 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Not me.
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funkit15:06:58 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Werhhh
Wait you can mine bts?
You can if you become a delegate.
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Werhhhh15:07:09 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Oh right that is what I thought
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viktor15:07:49 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
funkit
You can if you become a delegate.
Yeah..
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funkit15:08:52 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Silly season in crypto apparently
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da Lexx15:09:29 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
lets dieee
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da Lexx15:09:37 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
for a new pump
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da Lexx15:10:13 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
anyone here going to amsterdam ?
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Alex M - clockwork15:10:21 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
me
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da Lexx15:10:26 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
yeah
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da Lexx15:10:28 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cool
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funkit15:10:39 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I wish. But no.
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Sodiq Anishere15:10:59 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hello
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da Lexx15:11:02 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
have a celebration... I wish to go there too, but I can't
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da Lexx15:11:26 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
me
you you ever been there? amsterdam
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Alex M - clockwork15:11:34 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
funkit
I mine 10 a day. It's ok.
Nah
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Alex M - clockwork15:11:46 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
gzuz_342
you you ever been there? amsterdam
Nah
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fav15:12:20 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
try to visit https://www.arnhembitcoinstad.nl/ while you're there
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viktor15:13:00 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Can 400℅ returns be gotten at this time from mining..😂
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da Lexx15:14:32 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
Nah
then enjoy ! It will be def an experience :)
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da Lexx15:14:46 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
fun guarnteed
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nutela15:21:48 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
LOL “Show only liquid markets” Yah right 😂
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Andy15:22:08 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I’m looking support to our site
Who has experience dm me
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nutela15:22:16 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
try to visit https://www.arnhembitcoinstad.nl/ while you're there
I’ll be there next week for sure, what do you need?
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fav15:22:35 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
nothing, it's an experience. being able to pay with bitcoin everywhere
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nutela15:24:35 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
nothing, it's an experience. being able to pay with bitcoin everywhere
I’ll try to check it out and shill some PayPalm
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George (Bitspark)16:30:21 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
Steem down?
Why ?
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funkit16:31:03 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
HF 20 issues is the word on the street
G(
George (Bitspark)16:32:36 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
funkit
HF 20 issues is the word on the street
Hardfork took effect and rekt everything ?
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funkit16:34:27 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
What I hear is they roll back to HF 19 after the witness nodes started upgrading. Apparently not production ready
C
Channel_Bot16:34:43 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
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Thule 36916:53:03 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
BitCNY moving directly to a global settlement
T3
Thule 36916:53:30 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
like i predicted price just moved down to 0.76 cny and we already got a 21 million margin call wall
T3
Thule 36916:53:34 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
at ctr 1.65
T3
Thule 36916:53:49 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
and global settlement price moved up to 0.47 CNY
T3
Thule 36916:54:08 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
These people are going to fuck the whole bitshares community with their collateral
T3
Thule 36916:58:07 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
or a manipulated price feed of 57 CNY
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Hano17:00:24 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
XMG_BTC (Cryptopia Exchange)
#XMG Halving will occur on 23th Sep and coin expected to reach 600% because big news
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fractalnode17:01:45 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
jak będzie globl settlement
to tym z 1.0 zniknie cała kasa któRa jest w zabezpieczeniu
T3
Thule 36917:02:24 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
fractalnode
jak będzie globl settlement
to tym z 1.0 zniknie cała kasa któRa jest w zabezpieczeniu
kazdy kto ma collateral straci
T3
Thule 36917:02:36 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
nie cala ale swoj collateral
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funkit17:04:02 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
thule369
nie cala ale swoj collateral
Ok that's enough. Either you speak English and stop the fud or I shut you off.
T3
Thule 36917:04:15 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
which fud ?
T3
Thule 36917:04:30 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
explain it to me
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funkit17:04:50 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Implying that the feed price is manipulated is fud.
T3
Thule 36917:04:55 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
lol
T3
Thule 36917:05:10 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
a margin call price wassupposed to get eaten
T3
Thule 36917:05:21 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
now the margin call price is higher than on external exchanges
T3
Thule 36917:05:29 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
so you call that a natural price ?
T3
Thule 36917:05:33 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
its a manipulated price
T3
Thule 36917:05:48 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
created by shit feed prices which are forced to witnesses
T3
Thule 36917:06:02 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
by threatening them to unvote them
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funkit17:06:38 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
You are free to elect your witness. Even start your own.
T3
Thule 36917:06:58 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
The only truth is that bitshit is protecting his own margin calls knowing there is a high possibility to move further down with the price
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funkit17:07:54 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Ok. You were warned. I restrict you for a week.
C
Channel_Bot17:37:09 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
👉ETH 搬砖教程,低迷的行情,我们可以做搬砖工👈
🔥币圈搬运工🔥由于近期EHT价格暴跌,导致各大交易所价格比例差距拉开,可A交易所买B交易所卖赚差价熊市严冬很寒,币圈价格暴跌我们不怕,以太坊区块链上基于0X协议的去中心化交易数字货币BITUSD,已在比特股交易所上形成了套利空间,赶快来了解!
电报/币用 搜👉 tao li 80
https://medium.com/@ban/bf0b60081b93
PS:有大佬搬得爽赚得美心情好的话不妨给个打赏哦 😊
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JonnyB17:45:05 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
thule369
The only truth is that bitshit is protecting his own margin calls knowing there is a high possibility to move further down with the price
bitcrab is treating bitshares like his own central bank.
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Mathew18:47:49 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Can anyone create a smartcoin/market pegged asset? I'm not planning to but say I launched MatUSD tomorrow pegged to USD how would it work? The BTS set up cost remains the same regardless but presumably I end up having to tie in more BTS at some point...? Or is it more a case that anyone can do it but there is no significant benefit because you don't really get anything...?
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Mathew18:49:25 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Also couldn't see where you 'peg' it in the smartcoins options section
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Stefan Schießl18:50:53 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
matle85
Also couldn't see where you 'peg' it in the smartcoins options section
You merely create the frame for the token. After creation any user can borrow that token from the platform by locking away BTS as collateral
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Mathew18:54:03 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I couldn't see how you set the peg. I guess you'd leave the short backing asset as BTS but I can't see the option where you identify what it's actually pegged to
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Alex M - clockwork18:55:31 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
matle85
I couldn't see how you set the peg. I guess you'd leave the short backing asset as BTS but I can't see the option where you identify what it's actually pegged to
You identify it as a description only. Actual pegging is achieved via price feeds
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Mathew18:57:39 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
So you describe it, click create asset and then...
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Alex M - clockwork18:57:52 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Convince people to provide feeds
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Mathew18:58:57 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Ah ok so you couldn't just say make it equal to 2*bitusd
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Mathew18:59:20 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Assuming MatUSD was a stable asset worth $2...
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fav19:00:31 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
that's like saying the dollar is worth 2 dollar right
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fav19:01:04 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
or tether is worth something
F
fav19:01:06 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
:')
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funkit19:02:00 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Have a look at what @cmmob has done with HERTZ which oscillates +/- 14% of a dollar.
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funkit19:02:45 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
That's innovation, not just another coin
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kenCode19:03:14 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
funkit
Have a look at what @cmmob has done with HERTZ which oscillates +/- 14% of a dollar.
nice pun ;)
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kenCode19:03:33 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
hertz, oscillates..
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funkit19:03:50 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hey Ken. You just got competition from Ronny.
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kenCode19:04:06 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
meh, lots of pos systems out there
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kenCode19:04:13 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
and wallets
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Stefan Schießl19:04:15 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
funkit
Hey Ken. You just got competition from Ronny.
Höh?
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funkit19:04:22 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
New mobile app to play with
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kenCode19:05:16 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
competition spurs innovation :)
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Stefan Schießl19:05:23 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
funkit
New mobile app to play with
Link?
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funkit19:05:35 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
It does.
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Stefan Schießl19:06:02 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
funkit
Have a look at what @cmmob has done with HERTZ which oscillates +/- 14% of a dollar.
What's a typical trader use case for hertz?
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funkit19:06:22 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Link?
https://lnkd.in/gjE27hV
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Stefan Schießl19:07:31 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
funkit
https://lnkd.in/gjE27hV
Thanks!
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funkit19:07:34 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
What's a typical trader use case for hertz?
To get volatility also in stagnant markets. + it's pegged to fiat
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kenCode19:09:00 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
funkit
https://lnkd.in/gjE27hV
i hope ronny does an ios version too that would be awesome. maybe he will have better luck with apple than i did
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Stefan Schießl19:09:10 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
funkit
To get volatility also in stagnant markets. + it's pegged to fiat
Sure, that's the concept. But as a trader I would buy Hertz because....
Please fill in:)
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Stefan Schießl19:09:39 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
kenCode
i hope ronny does an ios version too that would be awesome. maybe he will have better luck with apple than i did
What was your reason for refusal from Apple?
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kenCode19:09:57 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
multiple reasosns. i appealed all of them too for over a month.
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funkit19:10:03 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Sure, that's the concept. But as a trader I would buy Hertz because....
Please fill in:)
At the moment the volume is to tiny to be viable
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kenCode19:10:18 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
bts mkt cap is too small, its not a supported currency, blah blah... their excuses kept changing
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kenCode19:10:51 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
that was like 3 years ago though
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kenCode19:11:02 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i haven't tried since then
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funkit19:11:26 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
The little snippet of info I got also mentioned iOS. And yes -it takes more time.
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kenCode19:11:29 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
seems apple loosened their bung a bit though since mycelium and dash wallet got back in there after they got censored out too at one point
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kenCode19:11:59 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i hope he uses swift or kotlin to develop it, then he could leverage all the NFC stuff we did too
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fav19:12:51 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
setup and syncing works very well on the wallet
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funkit19:13:01 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Don't you know the devs in ol, ken?
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kenCode19:14:52 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
no, ronny won't talk to me for some reason, i have been trying to help him for years, but i think he took it wrong
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Mathew19:14:53 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
that's like saying the dollar is worth 2 dollar right
MatUSD is a confusing AF hypothetical coin with no potential use case. It's going to go far.
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fav19:15:00 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
heh
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funkit19:15:59 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
That's a shame. I thought you knew every coder in the space
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Crypto Kong19:17:29 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
What's a typical trader use case for hertz?
I believe the idea is to borrow and settle based on the top and bottom of the wave
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Crypto Kong19:18:31 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Not 100% on it though, its one of those things i keep meaning to research but never do
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Crypto Kong19:19:47 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Suppose it doesnt matter when you borrow it really
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Crypto Kong19:20:19 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
As you can see... not researched lol
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funkit19:20:54 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
It matters. And even more than with usd
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da Lexx19:21:02 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
heh
I have seen your tweet about dexeos. since we are not in other bts channels I will drop it here @@favdesu
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Brekizer19:21:13 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Brekizer, [17.09.18 10:29]
Hi guys, few days ago my wallet got hacked and all my EOS and Airdrop tokens/coins got stolen
Brekizer, [17.09.18 10:29]
There was a keylogger/password logger on my PC
Brekizer, [17.09.18 10:29]
SCAN the PC for malware
Brekizer, [17.09.18 10:29]
ASAP
Brekizer, [17.09.18 10:29]
I'm now down to $13,- in total.
Brekizer, [17.09.18 10:31]
It's more a warning, please be carefull
Brekizer, [17.09.18 10:32]
I thought I had everything covered (worst thing is my ledger arrives wensday, ordered 2 weeks ago)
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da Lexx19:21:28 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
related to the dexeos "hack"
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fav19:21:45 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
never said it was hacked
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fav19:21:48 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
but good to know
DL
da Lexx19:22:04 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
yeah all good. just wanted to let you know
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da Lexx19:22:38 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
but good to know
👍
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R21:09:39 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Sure, that's the concept. But as a trader I would buy Hertz because....
Please fill in:)
Because potentially buying at $0.86 and settling at $1.14 is pretty neat, if you trade against usd instead of bts it's pretty safe. Plus if you short the peak, the downwards oscillation can provide temporary debt destruction 👍
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R21:09:51 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
The updated whitepaper covers quite a lot of the 'why'
HC
Hairy Canary21:15:41 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Because potentially buying at $0.86 and settling at $1.14 is pretty neat, if you trade against usd instead of bts it's pretty safe. Plus if you short the peak, the downwards oscillation can provide temporary debt destruction 👍
...seems 'fall off a log' simple...must read up on this.... how has it performed since been out?
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R21:23:30 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
hairycanary
...seems 'fall off a log' simple...must read up on this.... how has it performed since been out?
Price feeds have been stable, I'm coming up to my 2m op feeding it 👍 we've had several full oscillations now. It's still in a bootstrapping state - needs more market participants
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JonnyB22:22:24 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://youtu.be/2Igct_XWpAQ
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Sofia22:37:40 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I buy btc and eth. Budget 5000 $, write in pm
LW
Lance Wu23:21:31 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Any admin here?
HC
Hairy Canary23:38:29 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Price feeds have been stable, I'm coming up to my 2m op feeding it 👍 we've had several full oscillations now. It's still in a bootstrapping state - needs more market participants
pls send me a start point link...thanks! ...
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R23:39:15 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
hairycanary
pls send me a start point link...thanks! ...
https://whaleshares.io/bts-dev/@customminer/updated-hertz-aba-whitepaper-check-it-out
HC
Hairy Canary23:41:36 - 17 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
https://whaleshares.io/bts-dev/@customminer/updated-hertz-aba-whitepaper-check-it-out
got it...thanks!
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PRUDENCE00:48:39 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://youtu.be/HQA2ToI0FEM
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Mr.Jon01:13:10 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Monthly profit, average 200-800 pips
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAFL0CobvgTeYV8Ngrw
To sign up for our FREE DAILY FOREX SIGNALS you need to open REAL account
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armin01:21:34 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
anyone know where the force settlement option is on the UI
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Mr.Jon01:21:49 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Monthly profit, average 200-800 pips
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAFL0CobvgTeYV8Ngrw
To sign up for our FREE DAILY FOREX SIGNALS you need to open REAL account
DS
DCCT SMITH02:40:52 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
有没有微信号啊
ED
Enoch Deng03:54:32 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
DCCT SMITH
有没有微信号啊
同问
日张
日山 张03:57:11 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
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Kai Hu05:44:55 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
hi
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Eileen_Fans06:07:26 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hi
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Crypto Kong06:15:23 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
The updated whitepaper covers quite a lot of the 'why'
Do you have a link?
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Lora Knit06:47:49 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hello
HC
Health Care07:22:44 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
http://gadgetpopo.com/viewing-this-incarnation-of-zarine-khan-will-undoubtedly-surprise-the-viewer/
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JonnyB07:38:02 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
BSIP42 authorises witnesses to manipulate price feeds. If you think price feeds should be accurate you need to actively vote against BSIP 42 not just abstain.
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Kevin07:48:07 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
https://youtu.be/2Igct_XWpAQ
I voted for this a long time ago. Thanks for making the video to make it easier for others to understand why and how to vote.
HC
Hairy Canary07:55:21 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
its active now...not proposed... what that mean? too late to vote?
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はるか08:01:33 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
refund400k is now too low I think...
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R08:03:30 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
BSIP42 authorises witnesses to manipulate price feeds. If you think price feeds should be accurate you need to actively vote against BSIP 42 not just abstain.
Time perhaps to use Hz over smartcoins? Could perhaps delete the features that bitcrab proposes to abuse?
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Mathew08:05:00 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Kimchiking
I voted for this a long time ago. Thanks for making the video to make it easier for others to understand why and how to vote.
For or against?
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JonnyB08:08:39 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
hairycanary
its active now...not proposed... what that mean? too late to vote?
There's two Bsip42 workers one you can vote for and one you can vote against. The against one is listed under the proposed tab
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Mathew08:14:25 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
https://whaleshares.io/bts-dev/@customminer/updated-hertz-aba-whitepaper-check-it-out
Good job laying it all out very clearly
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Mathew08:14:47 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Nice to see articles on whaleshares rather than steemit too
HC
Hairy Canary08:21:08 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
There's two Bsip42 workers one you can vote for and one you can vote against. The against one is listed under the proposed tab
...got it...thanks
AP
Alfred Pacal08:26:44 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hey everyone
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Kevin08:45:15 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
matle85
For or against?
I voted against.
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Mathew08:45:58 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Kimchiking
I voted against.
I assumed so!
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はるか09:07:40 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
It depends on if external data feeds are absolutely trustful
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:08:05 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Also what you consider fair
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はるか09:08:28 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Note that external exchanges could use their price to manipulate DEX price
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:08:54 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
At least now 1 bitCNY is in fact 1 CNY
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Alex M - clockwork09:09:35 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
def needs more tuning
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はるか09:10:39 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
In that case, how to compare "tuning" with BSIP42?
は
はるか09:12:08 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
no BSIP42 = aggregate data from external exchanges only, BSIP42 = add DEX price into the data?
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Alex M - clockwork09:13:31 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
harukaff_bot
no BSIP42 = aggregate data from external exchanges only, BSIP42 = add DEX price into the data?
bsip42 = add a premium in order to create a 2way peg for bitCNY
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R09:27:48 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
At least now 1 bitCNY is in fact 1 CNY
Not if force settling is disabled as recently suggested
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Alex M - clockwork09:29:19 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Not if force settling is disabled as recently suggested
thats the thing...bitCNY has enough bitCNY/CNY pairs and other market to nto have to depend on forced settlement
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Alex M - clockwork09:29:24 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
only bitCNY though
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:29:27 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
anyway
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Alex M - clockwork09:29:40 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
seems like this will be the talk of the weekend :)
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R09:35:49 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
thats the thing...bitCNY has enough bitCNY/CNY pairs and other market to nto have to depend on forced settlement
Without forced settlement there might as well be no collateral 👎
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R09:38:12 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Especially if you cannot sell at settlement rate within 24hr completely - bsip 18 is the implemented solution to global settlement.
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R09:38:55 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Forced settlement & shorter losses > fractional reserve
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Alex M - clockwork09:41:46 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Without forced settlement there might as well be no collateral 👎
well FS is great if it works proeprly and cant be manipulated
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Alex M - clockwork09:41:54 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
but its very hard to get right
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Alex M - clockwork09:42:25 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
on the other hand...no stablecoin has FS ...so removing it is not the end of the world (as long as GS still exists)
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Alex M - clockwork09:43:14 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
keeping value is the important part...more so than extractign that value in a specific asset
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Alex M - clockwork09:44:31 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Especially if you cannot sell at settlement rate within 24hr completely - bsip 18 is the implemented solution to global settlement.
that just autorevives it....i still think it should not go into GS unless the sum of the debt/supply is undercollateralised
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R09:45:03 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
keeping value is the important part...more so than extractign that value in a specific asset
Feels more like preventing shorter losses by breaking bitcny intentionally. If people are willing to buy it at market rates then fs will work, otherwise it'll become a fractional reserve and worth less than its reference value
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Alex M - clockwork09:46:42 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
This conversation needs pints
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Alex M - clockwork09:46:49 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Just wait 2 days
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R09:46:57 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
🤣 True
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Alex M - clockwork09:49:25 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Jerry and jademont will be there
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Alex M - clockwork09:49:39 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
We can all get a think tank going
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Alex M - clockwork09:50:32 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
xeroc has some thoughts too
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Alex M - clockwork09:50:38 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
he's been on holiday last 2 weeks
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Alex M - clockwork09:50:43 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
but he'll be there
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Alex M - clockwork09:50:51 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
so it's good to get it all figured out
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R09:50:57 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Awesome, I'll be there late Friday 👍
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funkit09:51:23 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Amster?
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Alex M - clockwork09:51:27 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
yeah
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funkit09:51:49 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Fuck. It would have been fun to be there.
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odeleye oluwapelumi09:52:13 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hello I want to buy bitcoin who is selling
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funkit09:52:43 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
odeleye oluwapelumi
Hello I want to buy bitcoin who is selling
wallet.bitshares.org
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はるか09:53:00 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I was tempted to use lmgtfy
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odeleye oluwapelumi09:55:43 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
/connect_channel@IFTTT
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IFTTT09:55:44 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
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JonnyB10:02:22 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
thats the thing...bitCNY has enough bitCNY/CNY pairs and other market to nto have to depend on forced settlement
If there are CNY gateways at near 1:1 then people don't need to force settle. So it's not an issue. But people must always have the right to force settle.
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JonnyB10:04:13 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
The GUI should prompt people that they'll get a better price by selling than FS if true.
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Alex M - clockwork10:04:43 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
The GUI should prompt people that they'll get a better price by selling than FS if true.
thats fien for now
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Alex M - clockwork10:05:27 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
problem happens when market/feed is closer
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Alex M - clockwork10:05:36 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
its been manipulated heavily before
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Zachary Tyler10:05:40 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
odeleye oluwapelumi
Hello I want to buy bitcoin who is selling
www.localbitcoins.com
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JonnyB10:08:08 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Manipulated how?
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JonnyB10:09:22 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
BSIP42 allows for manipulation of the price feeds. Before Bsip42 witnesses had to provide accurate price feeds.
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JonnyB10:09:53 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
If price feeds are not true. What's the point?
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はるか10:11:00 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
So external price is always true?
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JonnyB10:11:43 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
If people can arbitrage via force settlement they are just making the market more efficient.
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JonnyB10:13:19 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
harukaff_bot
So external price is always true?
The well paid job of being a witness includes providing an accurate price feeds.
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JonnyB10:14:06 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Well it was until Bsip42 said witnesses can feed in manipulated prices
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JonnyB10:16:33 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I don't understand why big proxies like @xeroc would vote for such a massive protocol change in the way bitassets work.
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Alex M - clockwork10:17:20 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
one could argue that the accurate pricefeed is one that ensures the stablecoin is worth exactly what it is pegged too
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Alex M - clockwork10:18:02 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
so we either have a feed that is accurate as far as bts is concerned
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Alex M - clockwork10:18:12 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
but inaccurate as far as bitasset peg is concerned
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Alex M - clockwork10:18:17 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
or the opposite
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JonnyB10:18:56 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Accurate price feed is the most accurate price data available for the price of BTS.
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JonnyB10:19:07 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Anything else is manipulation
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Alex M - clockwork10:19:15 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Price feed is for the bitasset
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Alex M - clockwork10:19:23 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Not for bts
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Alex M - clockwork10:20:07 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
The fact it's been derived via bts prices and forex rates all this time
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odeleye oluwapelumi10:20:11 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Alex M - clockwork:
one could argue that the accurate pricefeed is one that ensures the stablecoin is worth exactly what it is pegged too
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Alex M - clockwork10:20:16 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Doesn't make it the right way
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JonnyB10:21:45 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Bitasset smart contract is becoming less and less of a contract and more and more how the Devs feel today.
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JonnyB10:23:26 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
If you can't call the contracts bluff and force settle when want it just becomes unreliable and untrusted bin the long run.
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Alex M - clockwork10:23:52 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
essentially what we have here is a premium on the price of bitCNY pointing to the fact that bitCNY represents MORE risk for the borrower than it should
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Alex M - clockwork10:24:08 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
the "right" way of dealign with that ..woudl be to lower the MCR
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Alex M - clockwork10:24:15 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
but thats much less flexible
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Alex M - clockwork10:26:07 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
If you can't call the contracts bluff and force settle when want it just becomes unreliable and untrusted bin the long run.
well...the ideal way would be to have extremely liquid markets to the fiat counterpart and do away with FS altogether
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Alex M - clockwork10:26:47 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
but yeah...it def needs tuning
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JonnyB10:27:57 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
well...the ideal way would be to have extremely liquid markets to the fiat counterpart and do away with FS altogether
Again. It may do away with the need but not the right.
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Nate Sullivan10:30:06 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hy group
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JonnyB10:30:22 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
Price feed is for the bitasset
Invert it
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odeleye oluwapelumi10:31:57 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Someone should please help me with bitcoin any amount 3FCQbZ1ws1w3DiDzC8JY32A9aMvv5VLmEX
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odeleye oluwapelumi10:32:01 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
3FCQbZ1ws1w3DiDzC8JY32A9aMvv5VLmEX
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Alex M - clockwork10:32:30 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
Again. It may do away with the need but not the right.
disagree... it's a derivative...it's a question of value...not of being able to cash out for the backign asset at will...
yes...it's always been a nice feature and I woudl love to keep it if it coudl work without affecting or beign manipulated by the market...wouldnt go as far as calling it a right though
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Stefan Schießl10:36:31 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
disagree... it's a derivative...it's a question of value...not of being able to cash out for the backign asset at will...
yes...it's always been a nice feature and I woudl love to keep it if it coudl work without affecting or beign manipulated by the market...wouldnt go as far as calling it a right though
In a high liquidity market arbitration would ensure threat there is no deviation in the order books from feed right? Settlement would be just one of the arbitration possibilities
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Alex M - clockwork10:37:12 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sure...
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Alex M - clockwork10:37:29 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hence why I said it can be ok for bitcny
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JonnyB10:37:33 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
You're wrong. Bitassets are a derivative and derivatives are contracts that settle in a defined currency. Oil gold wheat derivatives let you settle in usd. Bitshares bitassets let you settle in BTS.
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Alex M - clockwork10:37:45 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
And that the rest are a different story
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JonnyB10:38:45 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
If you change the contract when someones holding that contract. There's not much trust left.
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Bitcoin Teo10:39:04 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
onceponatime
Stan Larimer admin Let me see if I can recall the history here. Jared comes to this community offering cooperation, gets ruthlessly attacked and framed with people manipulating the government, is completely destroyed, winds up being convicted of nothing, tries to reboot his life with zero resources, gets ruthlessly attacked again, finally decides to retaliate, loses his kid as a result of the framing, gets banned and the people who did all this to him rewarded with control of the very forum we created to get away from the toxic fumes over on DEX. And the biggest accusation against him is he used the word decentralized bank to describe a cell phone app the way others use piggy bank, or blood bank, or sperm bank and he's building a library where people disagree with how the open source code is documented. That's about it.Meanwhile other people who make a business out of destroying other people's lives are welcomed to run the place.
Up is down black white interesting times for sure. Acceptance key. Think principalities dark light good evil scale wrap ur brain... follow qanon.
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Alex M - clockwork10:40:13 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I should really work on my terminology. Good point. I should have probably said functions similarly to a derivative. Since an actual derivative as you mention means a completely different thing.
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JonnyB10:40:14 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
In a high liquidity market arbitration would ensure threat there is no deviation in the order books from feed right? Settlement would be just one of the arbitration possibilities
Exactly. It keeps the system honest.
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Alex M - clockwork10:40:36 - 18 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I do agree about changing the terms of the contract.