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kenCode23:44:16 - 30 Aug 2018 [UTC]
PalmPay point-of-sale really getting some momentum now, transactions on Bitshares increasing :)
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Bangzi00:00:21 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
第98期比特股网络报告 - 2018年8月28日 (Bitshares - State of the Network[CN])
https://steemit.com/bitshares/@bangzi/98-2018-8-28-bitshares-state-of-the-network-cn
HC
Hairy Canary00:12:22 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
kenCode
PalmPay point-of-sale really getting some momentum now, transactions on Bitshares increasing :)
Wonderful ! ...when adoption in USA/Canada?
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kenCode00:13:15 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
hairycanary
Wonderful ! ...when adoption in USA/Canada?
Canada: www.PalmPay.tk (and i think one of the Ambs is setting up a .ca as well)
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kenCode00:13:38 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
quite a few Ambs in USA now too, especially in the west
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kenCode00:14:06 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://twitter.com/TheReal_MAXE_1g/status/1022920180085784582
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Hairy Canary00:14:27 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
kenCode
Canada: www.PalmPay.tk (and i think one of the Ambs is setting up a .ca as well)
..amb=??
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kenCode00:14:49 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
oh sorry, just truncated it. PalmPay Ambassadors
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kenCode00:14:54 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
"Ambs"
HC
Hairy Canary00:15:15 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
thanks...idk much abbreviations, yet...
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kenCode00:15:36 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
no worries, it's sort of an @Agorise thing anyway
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Hairy Canary00:17:08 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
so that canadian amb is right in my neighbourhood sorta... vancouver? can i use palmpay in vancouver..what their contact info?
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kenCode00:19:06 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
hairycanary
so that canadian amb is right in my neighbourhood sorta... vancouver? can i use palmpay in vancouver..what their contact info?
looks like there is 3 ambs in Canada so far
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kenCode00:19:37 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Gabriel and Randall are in Vancouver area
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Hairy Canary00:21:09 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
..what do they do? ..sign up points of sale retail?
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Hairy Canary00:21:23 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
T.O. my alma mater...
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Hairy Canary00:22:28 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
T.O. = local name for toronto, ontario, as in "yeah, I'm from TO..."
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Hairy Canary00:23:37 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
vancouver is very progressive, BC = california of Canada
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kenCode00:23:38 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
they teach people about crypto and blockchain first and foremost. hold meetups and workshops. then they get businesses (electric/internet/water co's etc) to use PalmPay.
www.PalmPay.io - all transactions go directly to Bitshares accounts.
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kenCode00:23:54 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
hairycanary
T.O. = local name for toronto, ontario, as in "yeah, I'm from TO..."
hehe
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kenCode00:24:02 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
hairycanary
vancouver is very progressive, BC = california of Canada
BC 😳
HC
Hairy Canary00:25:49 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
where they advertise their workshops? ...I struggle w teaching all this to myself and by myself...would definitely help arrange a venue for them to present in Kamloops BC, which is a "hub" of BC...at local university would be a good venue...
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kenCode00:33:24 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
hairycanary
where they advertise their workshops? ...I struggle w teaching all this to myself and by myself...would definitely help arrange a venue for them to present in Kamloops BC, which is a "hub" of BC...at local university would be a good venue...
not sure man, the marketing teams are decentralized so you'd have to ping them on telegram to find out their whereabouts and plans etc
HC
Hairy Canary00:37:11 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Roger that...thanks.
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kenCode00:37:31 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
🍺
HC
Hairy Canary00:43:47 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
my message to G: Hey! Ken tells me you in vancouver... I'm in Kamloops area... he says you conduct various workshops... wanna come to Kamloops? i can help arrange a venue at the local university, TRU = Thompson Rivers University.
HC
Hairy Canary00:44:06 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
kenCode
🍺
my message to G: Hey! Ken tells me you in vancouver... I'm in Kamloops area... he says you conduct various workshops... wanna come to Kamloops? i can help arrange a venue at the local university, TRU = Thompson Rivers University.
HC
Henrique Centieiro00:45:16 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Have you heard about Bitcoin Mining?
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Henrique Centieiro00:45:47 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Bitcoin Mining is making profit profit of your invested Bitcoin, you know normally you buy Bitcoin on your Wallet then hold till the price inflate, the increase is your profit
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kenCode00:47:29 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
hairycanary
my message to G: Hey! Ken tells me you in vancouver... I'm in Kamloops area... he says you conduct various workshops... wanna come to Kamloops? i can help arrange a venue at the local university, TRU = Thompson Rivers University.
niiice 😁
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tunji01:37:44 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Can I share a link here??
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R01:41:41 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
what link?
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Mei Qi03:21:09 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
wtf
HC
Hairy Canary04:00:44 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
..and of course since I trademostly bts/cny its precisely when asia becomes active after 6AM their time that it is most important for me to have steady access to DEX..???
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Hairy Canary04:01:19 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
@murda_ra....help help help...what can i do about the annoying out of sync problem once asia wakes up around 4PM my time PDT, vancouver,... it's just rampant after 4PM; almost makes dex useless for my 'scalping' trading style ( lots of small profits via lotsa trades) .... can it have anything to do with my laptop or my internet provider or anything on my end? Thanks for any help
EG
Ethan Green04:28:49 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Ethan Green:
Hello friends this is the site that I invest on and they paid me.
You can inbox me and I will give you the telegram link or site link...
That's proof
CN
Christian Nikel04:29:48 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Anyone has an old coin base wallet on here?
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Ethan Green04:30:00 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
How do you mean
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fav05:47:50 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://steemit.com/ceo/@bravenewcoin/dash-community-vote-on-ceo-s-dismissal
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fav05:47:54 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Heh
CN
Christian Nikel06:33:14 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Ethan Green
How do you mean
Christian Nikel:
I meant if anyone with an old coin base wallet with a limit of about $10,000-$50,000.should hit me up fast for more business transaction.
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Fabian Schuh 06:45:36 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
"It was a mistake to publish a roadmap with delivery dates that set unrealistic expectations" .. wait .. I thought that's common practise and people expect that!
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Abit More06:51:05 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
They have a CEO?
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Abit More06:55:17 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Just a while back someone told me Bitsfarm is broken
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Stefan Schießl06:55:23 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
xeroc
"It was a mistake to publish a roadmap with delivery dates that set unrealistic expectations" .. wait .. I thought that's common practise and people expect that!
It is only in the fineprint where it says that the tokens that are given out have no legal meaning and only carry promise, but no liabilities
FS
Fabian Schuh 06:56:46 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
abitmore
They have a CEO?
Yes, please don't ask me how their 'company' legally links to DASH, but apparently, they voted for a "public face" as we did, except that they are throughing way more money at him .. I guess that money is used to fund the company .. no clue ..
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Fabian Schuh 06:56:55 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
certainly not the way we do things on BitShares :D
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Abit More07:10:02 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
DASH has higher rank on CMC than BitShares at this moment
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Abit More07:10:28 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Good enough imo
天幸
天行健 幸福07:11:11 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
有没有微信群
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fav07:14:06 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Because cmc is great for evaluating tech right
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Fabian Schuh 07:16:38 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
They do spend way more money on marketing that BitShares does ...
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Fabian Schuh 07:16:47 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
like ... more than 0
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Fabian Schuh 07:16:49 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
😂
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fav07:17:01 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
And lost way more vue than bitshares
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fav07:17:04 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Value
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Stefan Schießl07:21:22 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
xeroc
like ... more than 0
I would fully support a proper marketing strategy proposal, meaning marketing budget > 0.
Maybe after Trusty is done (since trading is still the favorite application for the everday crypto-person). Having said that, personally advertising to vote for Trusty :)
羊
羊羊羊07:34:30 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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Lisa Ann07:34:51 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hello guys
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天行健 幸福07:38:05 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
有没有微信群
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Ekwueme Raymond07:59:13 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
LisaAnn001
Hello guys
Hi pretty
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Johan Friso08:25:55 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Could some answer to my question?
In cli_wallet mode, what is the difference between "account_update_operation" and "account_upgrade_operation"?
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Crypto Kong08:31:52 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
johanfriso87
Could someone answer to my question?
In cli_wallet mode, what is the difference between "account_update_operation" and "account_upgrade_operation"?
You might wanna join @pybitshares
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Samuel Idahosa08:32:36 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hello guys
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Crypto Kong08:33:21 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Samuelidah
Hello guys
Hello 😀
SI
Samuel Idahosa08:33:55 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
😊😊
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Abit More08:36:05 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
johanfriso87
Could someone answer to my question?
In cli_wallet mode, what is the difference between "account_update_operation" and "account_upgrade_operation"?
Update and upgrade are two different operations
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Abit More08:36:22 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
This question fits Dev channel
AM
Abit More08:36:52 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Few people in this channel use CLI wallet
JF
Johan Friso08:37:16 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
abitmore
Few people in this channel use CLI wallet
thanks.
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Abit More08:38:00 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Try `gethelp the_command` perhaps you will get some useful info
EG
Ethan Green09:10:23 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hello friends this is the site that I invest on and they paid me.
You can inbox me and I will give you the telegram link or site link...
That's proof
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Crypto Kong09:47:58 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
abitmore
Just a while back someone told me Bitsfarm is broken
hmmm thats a shame, I dont think many are using it either way... I'll leave it on the list for now but have a look into it later on
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Crypto Kong09:54:45 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
If anyone can add to this, or correct it, please let me know
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Stefan Schießl09:56:14 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Wider Ecosystem: Peertracks (Muse), Peerplays (BookiePro), BitShares
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Stefan Schießl09:56:29 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
You could add links as well where applicable
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Crypto Kong09:56:54 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
You could add links as well where applicable
thats my next plan, once the list is done gonna add websites, twitter accounts, telegram rooms etc
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Crypto Kong09:57:25 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Wider Ecosystem: Peertracks (Muse), Peerplays (BookiePro), BitShares, DasCoin
of these, what is the blockchain name? peertracks and peerplays or the ones in brackets?
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Stefan Schießl09:57:35 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Brackets is the product
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Crypto Kong09:57:43 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
ok cool thanks
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Lola Richards09:59:15 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I have ETH and I want to trade with BTC
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R09:59:43 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Lollypop8901
I have ETH and I want to trade with BTC
So trade on the bts dex. Don't do otc trades on telegram.
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Crypto Kong10:00:40 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
So trade on the bts dex. Don't do otc trades on telegram.
lol read there profile description
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Crypto Kong10:00:49 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
"cool and safe to trade with"
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Crypto Kong10:00:51 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
lol
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R10:01:13 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
"cool and safe to trade with"
Right then, banned them.
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Crypto Kong10:01:18 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
lol
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Alex M - clockwork10:01:51 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Muse/Peertracks was renamed no?
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Alex M - clockwork10:02:14 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
SounDAC
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Alex M - clockwork10:02:26 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://soundac.io/
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Crypto Kong10:03:34 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cool thanks!
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Crypto Kong10:03:40 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
this list is gonna be awesome lol
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Stefan Schießl10:04:35 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Ah
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Stefan Schießl10:04:46 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
They link to this and call it Muse Blockchain there
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Fabian Schuh 10:06:30 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
The rename happened like 14 days ago
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Fabian Schuh 10:06:34 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
or so ..
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R10:21:51 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
SounDAC
I'll believe it when I see it, dead for a long time
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Jason11:14:56 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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Janerose Fernandez11:34:25 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hello ..anyone can help me how to create wallet with bitshares
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JonnyB11:59:53 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I think Komodo are about to do a total rebrand.
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Crypto Kong12:01:20 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
I think Komodo are about to do a total rebrand.
yeah i read something about that the other day
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Crypto Kong12:01:44 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://twitter.com/KomodoPlatform/status/1035466558200578048
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Crypto Kong12:02:21 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i saw this also, that ive just suggested to spark and easydex that they (and other gateways) could implement a means of collateral for instant deposits
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Crypto Kong12:02:31 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
point 2 on the tweet
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Crypto Kong12:14:14 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
I think Komodo are about to do a total rebrand.
to be honest i quite like komodos branding, i cant understand the reason for rebranding other than to pump the price
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JonnyB12:15:38 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
they have too many brands komodo,supernet,hyperdex I hardly know what is what
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Crypto Kong12:17:23 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
they have too many brands komodo,supernet,hyperdex I hardly know what is what
barterdex lol
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Crypto Kong12:17:26 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
point proven
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Crypto Kong12:17:28 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
haha
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XOV CEO (Official)12:18:31 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Thanks for the follow @Cryptokong123
X(
XOV CEO (Official)12:18:52 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Thanks for the follow Crypto Kong
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Crypto Kong12:21:06 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
xovceo
Thanks for the follow Crypto Kong
no probs, looking forward to finding out more about your project
X(
XOV CEO (Official)12:21:43 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Great
X(
XOV CEO (Official)12:24:31 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
We also have ourown Discord community at https://discord.gg/dkJVJHB
X(
XOV CEO (Official)12:24:53 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
We also have an XOV community on Discord and Telegram
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Crypto Kong12:25:50 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
xovceo
We also have an XOV community on Discord and Telegram
can you pm me the telegram link, i dont think youll be able to post links here yet if you recently joined
X(
XOV CEO (Official)12:27:02 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Telegram is https://t.me/XOVofficial
X(
XOV CEO (Official)12:27:02 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hi there, our Discord link is https://discord.gg/dkJVJHB
X(
XOV CEO (Official)12:27:23 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Thanks :)
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Crypto Kong12:27:34 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
👍
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Isiah Rogers12:32:45 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
How are y’all doing today?
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Rich12:35:13 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Been a good morning so far, and you?
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BrissieCrypto12:39:32 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
gday
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fav12:53:35 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
What's xov?
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BrissieCrypto12:58:59 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
XOV is building a Decentralized financial network
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fav12:59:25 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
It's a bitshares fork?
AM
Alex M - clockwork12:59:42 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
It's a bitshares fork?
its built ON bitshares i think
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Alex M - clockwork12:59:50 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
that was my understanding nayway
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Crypto Kong13:02:29 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
There doesnt seem to be a lot of info on ot yet but they joined chat the other day saying they have chosen bitshares for their financial platform
SS
Stefan Schießl13:14:46 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
What's xov?
I think they announced a mathematically sound price-stable token
AM
Abit More13:15:06 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Dragonfire76
Hello ..anyone can help me how to create wallet with bitshares
simply click "create account"
SI
Samuel Idahosa13:19:14 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Please guys how can i get more bitcoins?
SS
Stefan Schießl13:21:10 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Samuelidah
Please guys how can i get more bitcoins?
wallet.bitshares.org
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Tardd13:29:18 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
الحمدلله
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fav13:35:42 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
its built ON bitshares i think
Hum okay
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Tardd13:37:42 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Help me
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Isiah Rogers13:39:07 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Tardd
Help me
What’s the problem ?
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Joe E.13:44:44 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
I think they announced a mathematically sound price-stable token, details not available yet
Yes, we’re working on an entire financial suite of services. A patentable stable coin model is part of that.
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Stefan Schießl13:46:02 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Joe_Ed
Yes, we’re working on an entire financial suite of services. A patentable stable coin model is part of that.
Very interested in the maths behind it :)
JE
Joe E.13:48:12 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Very interested in the maths behind it :)
That’s for the economists. Top researchers from the London school of economics and the imperial college have been working on the model for months. Along with finding the flaws in all current stable coins.
JE
Joe E.13:48:41 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
We’re hoping bts will be a great platform to run everything on.
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Isiah Rogers13:49:02 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Joe_Ed
We’re hoping bts will be a great platform to run everything on.
How are you doing today?
JE
Joe E.13:49:42 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Isiah Rogers
How are you doing today?
Honestly, home sick with a stomach bug.....good thing for the internet!
JE
Joe E.13:49:46 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
You?
JE
Joe E.13:49:53 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
At least it’s Friday.
IR
Isiah Rogers13:50:29 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Joe_Ed
You?
Am cool where are you from?
JE
Joe E.13:50:41 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Atlanta
JE
Joe E.13:51:12 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Everyone else?
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Stefan Schießl13:52:16 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Joe_Ed
That’s for the economists. Top researchers from the London school of economics and the imperial college have been working on the model for months. Along with finding the flaws in all current stable coins.
I'm a math person, just interested in the concepts used
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Alex M - clockwork13:53:33 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
looking through the info out there
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R13:54:18 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Joe_Ed
That’s for the economists. Top researchers from the London school of economics and the imperial college have been working on the model for months. Along with finding the flaws in all current stable coins.
Including private MPA on the bts dex?
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Stefan Schießl13:59:56 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Including private MPAs on the bts dex?
Will be a very intersting read when they publish it, hopefully :)
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Joe E.14:04:44 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Will be a very intersting read when they publish it, hopefully :)
Will be indeed. The lite paper is planned to be released September 2018 (or very early q4) that will explain most of the information. White paper will need to make sure parents are secure and such.
JE
Joe E.14:10:24 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Including private MPAs on the bts dex?
Something like that, yes. That’s the desire at least. Think of our model being more of a platform that others could utilize on the (bts) network...maybe licensed to different entities.
JE
Joe E.14:10:33 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Again, very early on for xov.
JE
Joe E.14:10:47 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I’m excited about what’s being done with bts!
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Samuel Idahosa14:11:51 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Free bitcoins
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Joe E.14:13:10 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Joe_Ed
Something like that, yes. That’s the desire at least. Think of our model being more of a platform that others could utilize on the (bts) network...maybe licensed to different entities.
But, take that with a grain of salt for now.
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fav15:00:25 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
so xov is with KYC etc?
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Vinod15:02:10 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hello
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Joe E.15:05:45 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
so xov is with KYC etc?
Still exploring our options.
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Stefan Schießl15:11:02 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Joe_Ed
Still exploring our options.
Options if or how to do KYC?
JE
Joe E.15:30:26 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Options if or how to do KYC?
How to. The if isn’t a question.
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Stefan Schießl15:30:43 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Joe_Ed
How to. The if isn’t a question.
See PM
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PBSA_Official15:33:45 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
The Peerplays core token - PPY - to be listed with Netcoins.
Read more here:
https://www.nasdaq.com/press-release/netcoins-to-list-peerplays-ppy-token-20180831-00253
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RC15:38:50 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
so xov is with KYC etc?
Hey Fav, what do you think about the new dweb (decentralized web) that Jared Rice is working on?
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RC15:39:24 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Love to hear your thoughts.
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Crypto Kong15:41:32 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
probably not the best person to ask on that subject lol
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fav15:41:55 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. If I wanted to use an actual dweb, I'd use zeronet with TOR.
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Alex M - clockwork15:46:13 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
probably not the best person to ask on that subject lol
heh
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Thom verbaltech215:50:00 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
He must be a noob.
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Sara15:50:28 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I am thinking of investing in market coins, but it is wrong to invest in coins in the market because all the coins fall due to each other. It is true to invest in new coins.
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Isiah Rogers15:51:02 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
polandcyrpt
I am thinking of investing in market coins, but it is wrong to invest in coins in the market because all the coins fall due to each other. It is true to invest in new coins.
How are you doing today?
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fav15:51:13 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
oh bots
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Crypto Kong15:51:17 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
thats spam, i read the exact same message in waves chat a few weeks ago and thought wtfd
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Crypto Kong15:51:53 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
ThomasFreedman
He must be a noob.
lol
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Tardd16:01:46 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Please help me 😔😔😢😢😢
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kenCode16:07:51 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
hey tardd what's all the stink about?
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kenCode16:09:21 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Tardd
Please help me 😔😔😢😢😢
what do you need??
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kenCode16:11:04 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
for wallet help join us in here: @btsWalletHelp
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Chuckyfucky(BeyondBitcoin)16:18:12 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
you bitshares holders are aware that you probably have whalestake sharedrop to claim on the whaleshares.io blockchain right? theres only time until the 15th to claim, i dont want anyone to miss out.
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Chuckyfucky(BeyondBitcoin)16:19:08 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
if anyone wants to know the process done hesitate on dming me
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JonnyB16:21:43 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://twitter.com/bitshares/status/1035562305835151362\
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Crypto Kong16:26:09 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Chuckyfucky(BeyondBitcoin)
if anyone wants to know the process done hesitate on dming me
check om :)
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Crypto Kong16:26:25 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
https://twitter.com/bitshares/status/1035562305835151362\
broken link
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はるか16:28:14 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
remove the backslash at the end
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はるか16:28:19 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
then it's good
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はるか16:28:39 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
and... how to quickly take down a twitter account? https://twitter.com/bitshanres this is very concerning
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fav16:28:59 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
you don't. it's full of scams
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JonnyB16:29:53 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
harukaff_bot
and... how to quickly take down a twitter account? https://twitter.com/bitshanres this is very concerning
just block it. and report it if you can be bothered
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はるか16:30:51 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I've reported it already
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Vinod16:45:11 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I have also reported.
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Crypto Kong16:45:34 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
its a waste of time, you report one the next post theres another
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Crypto Kong16:49:41 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i just signed up to whaleshares... what does reward post mean?
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Crypto Kong16:49:46 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i never used steemit
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Crypto Kong16:49:54 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
so i have no idea what im doing lol
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fav16:50:55 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
means that you want the post to receive part of the daily reward pool
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Crypto Kong16:52:45 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
ok cool, why would you not select that?
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fav16:53:30 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
no idea, maybe you don't want to use your stake of your posts
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Crypto Kong16:54:04 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
ok cool, ill get the hang of it maybe... lol
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fav16:54:29 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
you can use http://bitsharestalk.io with your WLS account too
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fav16:55:10 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
eg https://bitsharestalk.io/btstalk-general/@crypto-kong/the-bitshares-ecosystem
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A12-INDIA TCC16:55:47 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Send bitshare exchange link
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R16:56:25 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Everyone should be claiming their wls sharedrop, they assigned 70% to bts holders - Huge!
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Crypto Kong16:56:37 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
eg https://bitsharestalk.io/btstalk-general/@crypto-kong/the-bitshares-ecosystem
ok cool ill look into that
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A12-INDIA TCC16:58:05 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
What is the bitshare exchange website
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fav16:58:23 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
A12-INDIA TCC
What is the bitshare exchange website
https://github.com/bitshares
DM
Dreir Mens16:58:57 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Guys found a site that gives 0.03 real bitcoins instantly to your bitcoin address. Write in PM
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JonnyB16:59:10 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
A12-INDIA TCC
What is the bitshare exchange website
Wallet.bitshares.org
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Emily Wilson17:29:30 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hi everyone
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Игорь Миллион17:31:24 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hey
ИМ
Игорь Миллион17:33:36 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
@favdesu @clockworkgr do you know about plans to have telegram chat for BitFest?
I suppose it's nice idea for community to network and collaborate with each other.
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fav17:33:53 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
no idea
ИМ
Игорь Миллион17:34:44 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
@favdesu do you know who can help me to promote this idea?
ИМ
Игорь Миллион17:35:28 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Thx, much appreciate 😀
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JonnyB17:37:35 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
ihormillion
@favdesu do you know who can help me to promote this idea?
just make the group yourself
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Stefan Schießl17:45:03 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
just make the group yourself
@bitfest
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JonnyB17:46:15 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
really wish I could go but have family event I'd previously committed to
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Tardd18:17:31 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
/hello
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Tardd18:17:31 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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Tardd18:17:31 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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Marie Flamingirl18:30:13 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
✌🏻Hi everybody, I'm @Flamingirl from Steemit but also an investor in BitShares.
🇫🇷 I'm French and wanted to contribute to spread the good word about Bitshares.
📚 I'm going to translate the State Of The Network every week in French.
❤️ Feel free to resteem and upvote to support the French version. ❤️
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https://steemit.com/bitshares/@flamingirl/fr-bitshares-etat-du-reseau-28-aout-2018
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Vinod18:42:58 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
UPDATED ROAD MAP RELEASED!
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XOV is researching and developing a stable digital currency network (XOVnet) and a global decentralized banking operation (incorporating a Central and Retail Bank) that the currency will operate within. The Central Bank Cryptocurrency (CBCC) will be asset backed with fractional reserves and held and controlled independently by a reserve entity (RE) with full transparency.
Learn more: xov.io
Discord: https://discord.gg/TuzvkkU
Twitter: @xovercoin
Max Supply: 70m (circulating around 39m)
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Soon you will see a new website, new exchanges and an upcoming bounty program to go along with the release of our new Light Paper 2.0 (including updated road map). Our community is active, engaged, and ready to serve you.
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Vinod18:44:13 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
XOV has good community & good team.
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Vinod18:45:39 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
UPDATED ROAD MAP RELEASED!
XOV is researching and developing a stable digital currency network (XOVnet) and a global decentralized banking operation (incorporating a Central and Retail Bank) that the currency will operate within. The Central Bank Cryptocurrency (CBCC) will be asset backed with fractional reserves and held and controlled independently by a reserve entity (RE) with full transparency.
Max Supply: 70 million (circulating around 39 million)
Soon you will see a new website, new exchanges and an upcoming bounty program to go along with the release of our new Light Paper 2.0 (including updated road map). Our community is active, engaged, and ready to serve you.
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fav18:46:13 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
asset backed with fractional reserves?
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fav18:46:16 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
uhm
JE
Joe E.18:54:49 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
asset backed with fractional reserves?
Yes. Meaning it won’t exactly be like tether or something that is straight 1:1.
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fav18:55:01 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
it will be even worse
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fav18:55:03 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I got it
JE
Joe E.18:56:31 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
it will be even worse
We’ll let the math and time be the decider of that.
DP
Daniel P.18:58:33 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Trying to put the bitshares ecosystem in a list... If you can think of anything Ive missed please reply to this message so I get the notification.
Hi Crypto Kong, Apptrade DEX project is still is still alive. under Financial Services.
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Seveaux18:59:54 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i heard they go on a lawsuit with google (bitfest) or something, just heard it so can't confirm.. anyone else heard it aswel or so? I mean not with my money if so.. they are in disadvantage
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XOV CEO (Official)19:07:57 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Who is in a lawsuit?
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fav19:08:31 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Seveaux
i heard they go on a lawsuit with google (bitfest) or something, just heard it so can't confirm.. anyone else heard it aswel or so? I mean not with my money if so.. they are in disadvantage
wat
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fav19:08:46 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
an offline event issues with google. please provide evidence.
DP
Daniel P.19:08:58 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Seveaux
i heard they go on a lawsuit with google (bitfest) or something, just heard it so can't confirm.. anyone else heard it aswel or so? I mean not with my money if so.. they are in disadvantage
who is in a lawsuit?
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Seveaux19:09:16 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
it's that youtube style chain right ?
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fav19:09:22 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
no
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fav19:09:32 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
that's bit tube, and they have issues with their android app
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Seveaux19:15:25 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
oh shit i ment bit tube yeah..... everything isal but..., fail... excuses
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Seveaux19:15:53 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i mean all is bit,, not but
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Crypto Kong19:19:38 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
apptrade
Hi Crypto Kong, Apptrade DEX project is still is still alive. under Financial Services.
Oh cool do you have any links so I can check it out?
DP
Daniel P.19:32:40 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Oh cool do you have any links so I can check it out?
this is our old site: apptrade.io new website launching after our next community updates.
DP
Daniel P.19:33:36 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Some important and exciting updates for the bitshares community are coming.
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Crypto Kong19:33:53 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Thanks 👍
IF
Ief Falot19:43:41 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Nice list, please do update if you have url's, there should be a bts related websites page out there i guess!
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nutela19:52:52 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
BitShares is on MSM in Holland!
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nutela19:52:57 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Must be...
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nutela19:53:09 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Can’t post screenshot too bad suckers
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nutela19:56:22 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
It’s on Algemeen Dagblad Wesley Wippert
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nutela19:57:02 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
No-fake-GIFs-but-keen-eyes signing off.
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Hwoarang = T7 King20:56:58 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Guys I'm trying to log in the exchange..but it says all the time "failed to sync with api"
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Hwoarang = T7 King20:57:42 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
How can I fix this?..
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R21:06:33 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
CryptoCapone
Guys I'm trying to log in the exchange..but it says all the time "failed to sync with api"
Pick another api, or use the auto switcher
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Hwoarang = T7 King21:06:58 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Pick another api, or use the auto switcher
I did still it says out of sync🤔🤔🤔🤔
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Hwoarang = T7 King21:07:29 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Also the website keeps loading
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R21:07:33 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
CryptoCapone
I did still it says out of sync🤔🤔🤔🤔
Something else blocking your connection? Try using a vpn?
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Hwoarang = T7 King21:08:28 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Doesn't it have something to do with 31 August here and maybe where the server is located, the time is already 01-09 ...
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Hwoarang = T7 King21:08:54 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Something else blocking your connection? Try using a vpn?
Internet is working fine
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Crypto Kong21:10:30 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
is your clock out of sync
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Hwoarang = T7 King21:11:30 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
That's what it says..but it's not
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Hwoarang = T7 King21:12:05 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I also tried different api's from the list
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Hwoarang = T7 King21:12:36 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I tried the website..but website keeps loadind😅😅😅
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Crypto Kong21:14:42 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
its not working on client or browser?
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Hwoarang = T7 King21:17:02 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Both
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Crypto Kong21:17:43 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
have you re synced your clock?
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Crypto Kong21:17:48 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
and its still doing it?
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Hwoarang = T7 King21:17:58 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I tried other wallet: Exodus...world.. BitShares fail
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Hwoarang = T7 King21:18:42 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
have you re synced your clock?
My clock is showing the time correct.. or do I still have to sync it?
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Crypto Kong21:18:48 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://www.guidingtech.com/3119/windows-clock-sync/
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Hwoarang = T7 King21:18:53 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Maybe I should do it, just to be sure
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Crypto Kong21:18:59 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
👍
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Hwoarang = T7 King21:19:01 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
https://www.guidingtech.com/3119/windows-clock-sync/
Great
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Hwoarang = T7 King21:27:36 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Worked!
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Hwoarang = T7 King21:28:01 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
While time was correct..I just manually synced it again
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Hwoarang = T7 King21:28:15 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Clicked the wallet away
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Hwoarang = T7 King21:28:23 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Restarted again
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Hwoarang = T7 King21:28:34 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
And works now👍🏼
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Crypto Kong21:53:54 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
👍
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Crypto Kong21:54:12 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Happy trading 😁
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Hwoarang = T7 King21:57:07 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Thanks..😆👍🏼
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funkit22:37:03 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
It's somewhat sensitive
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Seveaux22:39:39 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i must admit to have had that experience more often lately as it occured before once in a while
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Seveaux22:42:10 - 31 Aug 2018 [UTC]
just unhiding and go on your own network closing vpn is enough but i experienced it also when im not on vpn and more often.. maybe others too, im in europe, mostly german server, btw could be the server right?
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PowerPics - EOSTalk.io00:19:00 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://whaleshares.io/@whaleshares
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Sharon Louise01:36:54 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hi
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R01:37:49 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Power_Pics
Claimed my sharedrop fully now 👍
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Cointroller03:10:00 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Claimed my sharedrop fully now 👍
Hi! I was trying to claim mine, but it requires me to send them 1 whaleshare, where do I get one? Am I entitled to this? I don't have any whaleshares, only bitshares.
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Rich06:22:14 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Reminder to all please dyor and look into Xov.io
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Rich06:24:57 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Reminder to all please dyor and look in XOV. This is a highly researched and academically reviewed stable coin project. This will be built on your network.
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Rich06:28:31 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
The possibilty of numbers of transactions per second means we will be able to be reliable as a currency and see our goal as crypto becoming a currency.
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Rich06:30:58 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
The goal is a currency that can be trusted for everyday use.
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Alex M - clockwork06:34:47 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cointroller
Hi! I was trying to claim mine, but it requires me to send them 1 whaleshare, where do I get one? Am I entitled to this? I don't have any whaleshares, only bitshares.
From the dex
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Alex M - clockwork06:35:00 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
1 whaleshare is about 0.5 bts
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Earthwalker✞06:35:12 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Matthew 13:18-23 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.
When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.
He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bible.kingjamesbiblelite.buy
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Earthwalker✞06:35:28 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Matthew 13:18-23 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.
When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.
He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
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Nicholas Smith08:51:12 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hello btc needed, I wanna buy
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Kevin08:51:45 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Nicholas Smith
Hello btc needed, I wanna buy
Please purchase your BTC on the BitShares DEX.
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funkit08:51:51 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Nicholas Smith
Hello btc needed, I wanna buy
Wallet.bitshares.org
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Mathew09:13:42 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Anyone seen Revolut are now doing cashback in a cryptocurrency of your choice?
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Mathew09:13:58 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Pretty cool
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Crypto Kong09:19:09 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
matle85
Pretty cool
Fake crypto
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Crypto Kong09:19:19 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
You cant withdraw it
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Crypto Kong09:19:34 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Its a bit like etorros CFDs
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Crypto Kong09:20:14 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
So you can get cashback for fake crypto then sell on fake crypto charts pegged to price at later date
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Mathew09:20:22 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Still meaning to read up on whether it is actual crypto or a token / tracker - you seen any articles on it?
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Mathew09:20:50 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Seems risky for them to give fake BTC, considering
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Mathew09:20:58 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
#bullsarecoming
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Crypto Kong09:20:59 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Not recently... but crypto was the whole reason i got a revolut card... was disapointed
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Crypto Kong09:21:13 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Its not fake btc, its basically a cfd
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Crypto Kong09:21:21 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Contract for difference
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Crypto Kong09:21:33 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I just call it fake btc lol
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Mathew09:22:05 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Yeah I was too, but I've been using it for overseas spend and tbh it's pretty good. Plus they are doing a lot more interesting stuff than any actual banks
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Mathew09:22:27 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Switching from air miles to crypto cash back is fine with me
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Crypto Kong09:22:35 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Yeah was gonna say to be fair to them i used it for norway recently. Very happy
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Mathew09:23:16 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Bitshares prepaid card...we need to get a move on with it
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Crypto Kong09:23:23 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
And it may be fake crypto you cant withdraw but it still allows you to accumulate and speculate
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Crypto Kong09:23:45 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
matle85
Bitshares prepaid card...we need to get a move on with it
I know right! All in good time... lol
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Wale Ifeacho10:36:05 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hi, I’ve found a channel, where you get free bitcoins every day! Here is the link:
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fav11:09:29 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
you can now register your name on Whaleshares for 1 WHALESHARE (0.5 BTS buy in DEX), whaleshares accounts are used for http://bitsharestalk.io - so claim your name & get the sharedrop on top
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Alex M - clockwork11:09:32 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
matle85
Yeah I was too, but I've been using it for overseas spend and tbh it's pretty good. Plus they are doing a lot more interesting stuff than any actual banks
I use N26
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Alex M - clockwork11:09:46 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
their infra is solid
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Alex M - clockwork11:09:59 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
wouldnt surprise me if the ygot into crypto at soem point too
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Alex M - clockwork11:10:03 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
but for what it is
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Alex M - clockwork11:10:06 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
it is awesome
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Mathew11:10:53 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
I use N26
Just had a Google, looks like they do a lot of the stuff I like about Revolut - temporary switch off cards etc
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Alex M - clockwork11:11:29 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
matle85
Just had a Google, looks like they do a lot of the stuff I like about Revolut - temporary switch off cards etc
oh yeah...very similar....
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Alex M - clockwork11:11:50 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
they actualkly had unique IBANs / full banking license before revolut did
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Mathew11:11:55 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hopefully a few of them will start doing proper crypto stuff
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Alex M - clockwork11:12:07 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
they dont do anything crypto related yet
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Alex M - clockwork11:12:11 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
but the core bankign stuff they do
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Alex M - clockwork11:12:14 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
they do very well
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Alex M - clockwork11:12:15 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
plus
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Alex M - clockwork11:12:20 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
8 minutes to open an account
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Alex M - clockwork11:12:23 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cant beat that
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Alex M - clockwork11:12:34 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
8 minutes online that is , from anywhere
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fav11:12:41 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
30 seconds for a bitshares account, can't beat that
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fav11:12:43 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
:')
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Crypto Kong11:19:36 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
they dont do anything crypto related yet
it must be for regulatory reason they and revolut dont have actualy crypto wallets linked to the bank accounts. They must be aware that if they did offer such a service they would have the majority of crypto users instantly switch over to them.
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Crypto Kong11:19:52 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Or pressure from higher authorities or something
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Crypto Kong11:20:40 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
If revolut had actual crypto wallets in their apps i would close my bank immdediatly
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fav11:26:12 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
If revolut had actual crypto wallets in their apps i would close my bank account immdediatly
same
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Hairy Canary11:31:55 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Chuckyfucky(BeyondBitcoin)
you bitshares holders are aware that you probably have whalestake sharedrop to claim on the whaleshares.io blockchain right? theres only time until the 15th to claim, i dont want anyone to miss out.
I can't even get my wallet open... yikes... will pm u if all else fails...yes, whaleshares endeavour👍
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Cointroller11:48:09 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cointroller
Hi! I was trying to claim mine, but it requires me to send them 1 whaleshare, where do I get one? Am I entitled to this? I don't have any whaleshares, only bitshares.
Thanks yeah, I couldn't find it at first, I got it now 😁
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Crypto Kong11:58:25 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
same
there has to be pressure from somewhere on them to not do this cos the first one would clean up, so many in crypto would flock to it
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Imking13:12:25 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Quick question all
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Imking13:12:54 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I know i can buy PPY on DAX ,
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Imking13:13:34 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
But do i need to us my bts? I want exchange ETH for PPY
HC
Hairy Canary13:35:08 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Sparkdex
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Crypto Kong13:43:08 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Imking
But do i need to us my bts? I want exchange ETH for PPY
Depends what PPY markets are liquid, ie: have orders on the books. Any asset is tradeable against any asset. It is possible to trade PPY for ETH but unlikely to have any orders on the books. Best way is to probably trade ETH for BTS or bitUSD then to PPY
HC
Hairy Canary13:58:23 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
yes must use a go between like bts, fee is cheaper too...
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Bangzi14:19:14 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Whaleshares 比特股内容网站空投说明 (认领截止日期2018年9月15日)Whaleshares Sharedrop Claim Announcement [CN]
https://whaleshares.io/whaleshares/@bangzi/whaleshares-2018-9-15-whaleshares-sharedrop-claim-announcement-cn
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marmik mewada14:43:10 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
futurecoin or bitcoinhash?
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marmik mewada14:43:18 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
marmik mewada
futurecoin or bitcoinhash?
what do you prefer guys?
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Imking15:00:02 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Depends what PPY markets are liquid, ie: have orders on the books. Any asset is tradeable against any asset. It is possible to trade PPY for ETH but unlikely to have any orders on the books. Best way is to probably trade ETH for BTS or bitUSD then to PPY
Ty
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Kiru A16:17:56 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hello, can anyone help me with importing an old pts wallet to bts?
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Crypto Kong16:18:53 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Kiru A
Hello, can anyone help me with importing an old pts wallet to bts?
@btswallethelp might be your best bet
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Chuckyfucky(BeyondBitcoin)16:33:24 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hey guys, just a reminder bts accounts that held BTS or Whaleshares on August 1st have a sharedrop that can be claimed on whaleshares.io
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Nicholas Smith16:41:40 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Nicholas Smith:
If you are American or Canadian I gat great job for you and you will just work from home and earn up to 1000$ a week
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im canadian-american does that mean i get 2k a week? from home 0 stress?
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drugs?
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Nicholas Smith17:16:02 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Chuckyfucky(BeyondBitcoin)
im canadian-american does that mean i get 2k a week? from home 0 stress?
Yea if you are competent and you don't have to pay any fees to start job just meet requirements
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Nicholas Smith17:16:37 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Chuckyfucky(BeyondBitcoin)
drugs?
And no drug deals bro
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Nicholas Smith17:16:51 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Its a legit job not illegal
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Chuckyfucky(BeyondBitcoin)
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investorgraham
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Chuckyfucky(BeyondBitcoin)
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Alex M - clockwork22:02:35 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
listening to today's hangout... @cmmob sounds NOTHING like I expected
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Crypto Kong22:03:58 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
listening to today's hangout... @cmmob sounds NOTHING like I expected
Lol i thought same thing
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funkit22:05:29 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
You mean manly..? 😁
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Hairy Canary23:18:26 - 01 Sep 2018 [UTC]
...more bass...
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Carolyn Eichler01:17:21 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
kenCode
quite a few Ambs in USA now too, especially in the west
What’s required to be an ambassador?
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Balomond01:56:17 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Carolyn can chat privately
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kenCode02:34:03 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Carolyn Eichler
What’s required to be an ambassador?
hey Carolyn. just teach crypto topics in your city via meetups, workshops, etc. get merchants on PalmPay so they can accept cryptos. if you do that, you're qualified in my opinion. if so, just dm me your info.
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bitcion black02:36:21 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
bitcion black:
i deposit bitusd to my bitshare .its 10hours why there is no show in account?TxHash:
0xb12f19f505fa9bf7dd786461de26be802bcd1148f3889f1e18c4515f4606fd15
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bitcion black02:36:50 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
bitcion black:
i really need help
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funkit02:46:09 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
btctothemoom
bitcion black:
i deposit bitusd to my bitshare .its 10hours why there is no show in account?TxHash:
0xb12f19f505fa9bf7dd786461de26be802bcd1148f3889f1e18c4515f4606fd15
You deposited USD or bitcoin black?
In the case of USD, you don't deposit, but send it from account to account.
Bitcoin black: contact the gateway and let them have a look at what happened.
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bitcion black02:46:46 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
bitusd
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bitcion black02:47:17 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
where i can contact gateway?
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bitcion black02:48:35 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i deposit from imtoken
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Crypticmajic02:56:14 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
anybody need very high quality signals/calls for crytpo exchanges from many of the top high profile premium channels with a rating system being implemented based on each channels accuracy to know which ones are performing the best then please dm me for more information
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Crypticmajic03:17:15 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
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funkit03:53:16 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
btctothemoom
i deposit from imtoken
But that's a ERC 20 if I'm not totally mistaken.
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funkit04:00:30 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
And worth nothing if etherscan is correct:
https://etherscan.io/token/0xcd5fb50c82590b9d11474ff19d085eba3c483e57#comments
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Rased06:46:09 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
hi
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Rased06:48:37 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i have done setup private test-net on my server , and on that exchange/wallet i m going to use my own asset as a default asset,
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Rased06:49:04 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i want to know how to develop smart contract on bitshares
R
Rased06:49:26 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
?
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Kristin Low06:50:21 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
funkit
And worth nothing if etherscan is correct:
https://etherscan.io/token/0xcd5fb50c82590b9d11474ff19d085eba3c483e57#comments
Yeah, these ERC20 versions of bitshares assets need to be eradicated imho - only cause confusion and possibility for fraud. If they work as intended, then why not simply hold the underlying bitasset directly. If they don't, they leave users with a horrible experience that bitshares is not responsible for, but that they will attribute to bitshares anyway. Wish there was a way to stop it 🙁
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funkit06:52:29 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
It's not ony BitASSETs, I'm afraid. I think I got fooled into a tokendrop that was ERC variants of well known altcoins.
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Kristin Low06:52:58 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Oh man, that sucks - sorry to hear it.
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Rased07:01:12 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
custom smart contract for my asset is possible in bitshares ?
KL
Kristin Low07:03:06 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Smart contracts in bitshares are called smart coins @himel2018 - can't quite remember where to find the documentation though. Think of it as a pared down version of a smart contract.
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Stefan Schießl07:03:22 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
himel2018
custom smart contract for my asset is possible in bitshares ?
Might be possible in the future, @clockworkgr is working on specifying dumb scripting contracts for BitShares
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Kristin Low07:03:31 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Does anyone have the link to the most recent whitepaper actually?
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Stefan Schießl07:06:52 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Kristin_Spark
Does anyone have the link to the most recent whitepaper actually?
https://www.bitshares.foundation/download/articles/BitSharesBlockchain.pdf
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Kristin Low07:07:12 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Thank you!
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Stefan Schießl07:08:07 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Kristin_Spark
Thank you!
Here in pretty
https://github.com/bitshares-foundation/whitepapers/blob/master/pdfs/the-bitshares-blockchain.pdf
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funkit07:21:43 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
himel2018
custom smart contract for my asset is possible in bitshares ?
A bit old docu, but nevertheless interesting reading. See also Kristin's comment.
https://bravenewcoin.com/assets/Whitepapers/bitshares-financial-platform.pdf
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Rased07:22:25 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sure
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Rased07:23:03 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i understand i need to use smart coins
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Rased07:25:18 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
but @funkit how to develop the smart coin for my asset, do i need to hire any developer ?
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funkit07:29:35 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
You need some collaboration. Ask @cmmob he has done it before.
You do not need to make your own, there are many to choose from. Unless you have a brilliant idea for a smart coin.
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Rased07:32:33 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
@funkit right
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Rased07:32:36 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
thanks for your advie
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Imran Soudagar08:27:06 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Chuckyfucky(BeyondBitcoin)
Where do I get Whaleshares to pay for?
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Kaily Harisson08:40:59 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hey guys, who can help me withdraw 1.2 BTC's, message me, i will give 15% for help
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Cagar - ONE & ONLY official from Namaste Crypto08:45:35 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hello, any admins here to talk to? Thanks.
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Kevin09:10:36 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
imransoudagar
Where do I get Whaleshares to pay for?
You can buy WHALESHARE on the BitShares DEX.
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Vinod09:51:09 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
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R09:52:51 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
listening to today's hangout... @cmmob sounds NOTHING like I expected
Haha, all good I hope? ;D
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Imran Soudagar10:17:03 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Kimchiking
You can buy WHALESHARE on the BitShares DEX.
I searched for Whale but I couldn't find it on the exchange. Maybe I typed in the wrong keyword. Will check it again.
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Crypto Kong10:18:23 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
imransoudagar
I searched for Whale but I couldn't find it on the exchange. Maybe I typed in the wrong keyword. Will check it again.
https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/market/WHALESHARE_BTS
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Imran Soudagar10:28:57 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Thank you
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niko10:30:22 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
hi i have trouble using bitshares it jsut shows white screen... same with the web client any ideas?
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funkit10:37:13 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Massajava
hi i have trouble using bitshares it jsut shows white screen... same with the web client any ideas?
File a GitHub issue and if possible give them a detailed report of what goes wrong.
If you have used the app over some time, downgrade it to a version that works for you.
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niko10:38:05 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
okay is this common? because literally i just downloaded it and it did that right away
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niko10:38:18 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
havent even seen the gui
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funkit10:38:52 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I see. So you have no prior experience?
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niko10:39:06 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
nope
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funkit10:39:30 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Try openledger.io
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funkit10:40:04 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Looks a bit different but same chain and same account
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niko10:40:06 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
nothing just a black screen 😞
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funkit10:40:27 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
What operating system are you on?
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niko10:40:37 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
using brave browser all shields down and not working
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niko10:40:40 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
windows 10 pro
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funkit10:41:01 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Switch to chrome, ff or opera
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niko10:41:25 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sure
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Lisa Ann10:42:09 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I have ETH and I want to trade with BTC
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Lisa Ann10:42:13 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
anyone ??
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funkit10:42:56 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
LisaAnn001
I have ETH and I want to trade with BTC
Well, we have an exchange for doing just that
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Werh10:44:32 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Why would a cute girl has ETH? I call scam.
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funkit10:45:06 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
She's gone
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niko10:45:57 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
same thing with chrome
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Werh10:47:00 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
But I would really want to know how the scam works. You send first and obviously the scammer do not? How could anyone fail for that.
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niko10:47:11 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
well using bitshares desktop client and devtools open it shows 2 errors
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R10:47:22 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Werhw
But I would really want to know how the scam works. You send first and obviously the scammer do not? How could anyone fail for that.
Greed makes people really dumb.
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funkit10:48:07 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Massajava
well using bitshares desktop client and devtools open it shows 2 errors
Good. I'm sure they would like to see it at GitHub.
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niko10:48:37 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sure ill file a issue
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funkit10:49:40 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I think downgrading your app to the previous version might solve it.
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niko10:50:21 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
any idea where i can find old version?
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niko10:50:42 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
github?
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funkit10:51:27 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/releases
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funkit10:51:37 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Try 180814
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niko10:52:54 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i actually have that one :D
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niko10:53:09 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
2.0 180814
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funkit10:54:08 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Then upgrade and see what happens
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niko10:54:13 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
just did
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niko10:54:14 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
same thing
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niko10:54:20 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
180815
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funkit10:55:21 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I suspected it. I have had more white screens than I like lately.
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niko10:56:19 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
should i leave it open for a hour or two if it would do something xD
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funkit10:59:02 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cache cleaning would probably be better. In the client it erases all custom pairs. Which makes me reluctant to do it.
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funkit10:59:53 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
And of course you would need to restore if you have local acc
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niko11:15:55 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sure thanks for help talking to the bitshares support now :)
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Crypto Kong11:33:49 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Guys, I'm putting together a "bullish on BitShares Pt.2" and was wondering what everyone is most excited about for the future of BitShares and its ecosystem. That could be a project reaching certain milestones or release of new software like Beet or upgrades to the bitshares protocol. Id like to hear your thoughts. Ive posted Pt.1 below if any of you havent seen it.
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Crypto Kong11:34:06 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://medium.com/@CryptoKong123/why-im-so-bullish-on-bitshares-5b913401c8af
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fav11:36:14 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://bitsharestalk.io/btstalk-general/@fav/bitshares-r-bitshares-august-stats-2018
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Shayan11:36:44 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
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1️⃣ عضویت در گروه تلگرام. (20 REMCO)
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Shayan11:48:32 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
97/06/11 admin
🔍 New Airdrop: Remittance Token
💵 Total reward: 70 REMCO [$5.60] + 10 REMCO [$0.80] referral
https://t.me/RemittanceTokenAirdropBot?start=626440150
1️⃣ عضویت در گروه تلگرام. (20 REMCO)
2️⃣ فالو کردن توییتر. (15 REMCO)
3️⃣ فالو فیس بوک. (15 REMCO)
4️⃣ کارهای اختیاری دیگر
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Shayan11:48:50 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
97/06/11 admin
🔍 New Airdrop: Remittance Token
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1️⃣ عضویت در گروه تلگرام. (20 REMCO)
2️⃣ فالو کردن توییتر. (15 REMCO)
3️⃣ فالو فیس بوک. (15 REMCO)
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Crypto Kong11:58:13 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
https://bitsharestalk.io/btstalk-general/@fav/bitshares-r-bitshares-august-stats-2018
have all the posts from the old forum been ported over to here?
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fav11:58:58 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
doubt that's possible
AM
Alex M - clockwork12:01:05 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
doubt that's possible
I did consider writign a script to post all of them
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Alex M - clockwork12:01:16 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
butthey would be under my account
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Alex M - clockwork12:03:15 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
also, considering rate limiting, woudl probably take a good year or so
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Crypto Kong12:04:05 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
ah ok
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Crypto Kong12:04:37 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
are current posting to the old forum being copied over?
AM
Alex M - clockwork12:04:50 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
are current posting to the old forum being copied over?
nope
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Crypto Kong12:04:56 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
just wondering if we now have two seperate forums with seperate content
C
Crypto Kong12:05:00 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
ah thats a shame
HC
Hairy Canary12:31:42 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
https://www.bitshares.foundation/download/articles/BitSharesBlockchain.pdf
this is great .... what is its publication date/year? thanks.
HM
Harrison Mclean12:33:36 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hi everyone, Harrison here: The Ezira project has rebranded to WeYouMe. You can check out our livestream here in 30 mins https://youtu.be/LuoIHAe63zk
HM
Harrison Mclean12:34:07 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
WeYouMe will be sharedropping WYM on all bitshares holders, and has used the DEX for all capital raising
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Stefan Schießl12:44:32 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
hairycanary
this is great .... what is its publication date/year? thanks.
It's this year, use the next link from me above
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R13:43:10 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
HazMclean
WeYouMe will be sharedropping WYM on all bitshares holders, and has used the DEX for all capital raising
What % sharedrop onto BTS holders? Thanks 👍
KD
kavin drivin13:50:54 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://medium.com/@empojg/davinci-coin-dac-is-going-to-list-on-bitforex-c3ac85811c6a
KD
kavin drivin13:56:43 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://medium.com/@empojg/davinci-coin-dac-is-going-to-list-on-bitforex-c3ac85811c6a
KD
kavin drivin13:56:43 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://medium.com/@empojg/davinci-coin-dac-is-going-to-list-on-bitforex-c3ac85811c6a
KD
kavin drivin13:57:12 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://medium.com/@empojg/davinci-coin-dac-is-going-to-list-on-bitforex-c3ac85811c6a
HM
Harrison Mclean14:25:54 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
What % sharedrop onto BTS holders? Thanks 👍
0.75% of the supply of WYM will be distributed to BTS holders, in addition to holders of 5 other cryptocurrencies
VB
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Roman Shmelev14:50:21 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
https://bitsharestalk.io/btstalk-general/@fav/bitshares-r-bitshares-august-stats-2018
looks like the person who's promoting bitshares across the internet is doing it worse and worse...
i might sound silly, but was someone actually hired to work in that direction?
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fav14:52:14 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I think we should fire our CEO
RS
Roman Shmelev14:53:07 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
hm, was it a joke)
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はるか14:53:37 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
ref dash
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Roman Shmelev14:54:02 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
of course bitshares is decentralized thing, but bitshares blockchain is known to be able to hire people
SS
Stefan Schießl15:15:15 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
rshmelev
looks like the person who's promoting bitshares across the internet is doing it worse and worse...
i might sound silly, but was someone actually hired to work in that direction?
No online marketing proposal so far
AK
Adjie Kusut15:34:42 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://youtu.be/zLUw8KFqUTs
AK
Adjie Kusut15:34:44 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://youtu.be/zLUw8KFqUTs
AK
Adjie Kusut15:34:46 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://youtu.be/zLUw8KFqUTs
AK
Adjie Kusut15:34:55 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://youtu.be/zLUw8KFqUTs
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https://renslimited.com/?ref=Nithinfizz
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Kevin16:13:35 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
I think we should fire our CEO
Yeah, that guys an asshole.
K
Kevin16:13:46 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
He's never around when you need him.
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Vinod16:26:32 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
What is XOVnet?
In a nutshell, XOVnet will deliver a stable currency network that is backed by intrinsically valued reserves. This means that the value of your digital currency will not materially fall in value, and will have transparent asset backing. This stability provides real value in your currency, and gives you spending power.
We are creating a decentralised Central Bank that will issue and govern the new currency, and a Retail and Investment Bank that will provide decentralised banking services to retail and business customers. These services will include loans, investments, bank accounts, savings and insurance.
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R16:33:28 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Vinod
What is XOVnet?
In a nutshell, XOVnet will deliver a stable currency network that is backed by intrinsically valued reserves. This means that the value of your digital currency will not materially fall in value, and will have transparent asset backing. This stability provides real value in your currency, and gives you spending power.
We are creating a decentralised Central Bank that will issue and govern the new currency, and a Retail and Investment Bank that will provide decentralised banking services to retail and business customers. These services will include loans, investments, bank accounts, savings and insurance.
Will it do so on the BTS DEX?
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Vinod16:35:08 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Yes
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R16:50:24 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Twitter was saying Eth instead of BTS? 🤔
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Wet Toast17:37:24 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Can someone help clear some confusion on how to claim whaleshares airdrop?
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Wet Toast17:39:44 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
If I understand correctly I need to purchase one wls token from the bitshares dex. I went to find markets and searched for wls, one is rudex and one is issued by browniesistro. Is that the correct token and does it matter which one?
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Wet Toast17:40:06 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
*browniedistro
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R17:42:04 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i3its
If I understand correctly I need to purchase one wls token from the bitshares dex. I went to find markets and searched for wls, one is rudex and one is issued by browniesistro. Is that the correct token and does it matter which one?
"whaleshare" not wls, that's the graphene token itself
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Wet Toast17:42:30 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Ah, ok thanks
SL
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Thule 36920:03:56 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
funkit
I suspected it. I have had more white screens than I like lately.
have the same issue on my PC with XP .bitshares stopped working on ff and chrome there
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funkit20:07:30 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Write issues to the code warriors. It's the only way they can cover every eventuality.
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Lafona20:08:03 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Twitter was saying Eth instead of BTS? 🤔
I think it mentioned eth because the original token was erc20. New token looks like it follow bts naming convention. XOV.DIV
CM
Cole Martins21:53:40 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
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oco10122:28:40 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Bitshares is in 14 position on blocktivity.info, this is a big drop, what changed ?
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R22:43:33 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Oco101
Bitshares is in 14 position on blocktivity.info, this is a big drop, what changed ?
probably a stats problem, I do more than that per 24hrs on ths BTS DEX 🤣
LC
Leroy Cruber23:12:21 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
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oco10123:19:02 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
probably a stats problem, I do more than that per 24hrs on ths BTS DEX 🤣
that's what i thought. Really ? are u using DexBot ?
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R23:19:22 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Oco101
that's what i thought. Really ? are u using DexBot ?
hertz price feed every 6 seconds 👍
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oco10123:19:56 - 02 Sep 2018 [UTC]
ohh ok
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Dave Scotese00:52:46 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
@cmmob I am contacting a bitsharestalk.org admin (you?) for approval to join the forum. I'm researching the use of BTS for precious metals dealers to facilitate liquidity with crypto-PM exchanges like Vaultoro.com
DS
Dave Scotese00:55:42 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I'm interested in joining bitsharestalk.org to explore the use of BTS to facilitate liquidity between actual PM dealers and crypto-pm exchanges like vaultoro.com. I PM'd R already.
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Could someone help me?
I know that any kind of asset(core asset, UIA and smart coin) can be used to pay fee.
However, even though I used my UIA as transfer fee, fee(UIA) wasn't reserved in "Vesting Balance".
Is this a bug? Or UIA can't be used to pay a fee?
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Could someone help me?
I know that any kind of asset(core asset, UIA and smart coin) can be used to pay fee.
However, even though I used my UIA as transfer fee, fee(UIA) wasn't reserved in "Vesting Balance".
Is this a bug? Or UIA can't be used to pay a fee?
Maybe the fee pool is empty. Check the assets info page. You can also use bts for fees.
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Alex M - clockwork08:59:28 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Uia gets exchanged for fee using CER and the fee pool
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Alex M - clockwork08:59:36 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Fees are only paid inbts
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Alex M - clockwork09:00:00 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
The rest is a convenience route via fee pool and CER
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Alex M - clockwork09:00:10 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
But the chain always gets BTS
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Johan Friso09:15:55 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
funkit
Maybe the fee pool is empty. Check the assets info page. You can also use bts for fees.
yes, I used BTS as transfer fee.
But I want to know if UIA can be used as fee.
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funkit09:17:05 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
It can. But it needs to be maintained properly.
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Johan Friso09:17:42 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
Fees are only paid inbts
Let me see...
I used my UIA as fee when transfer my UIA, but vesting balance didn't include that info.
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Johan Friso09:17:50 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
funkit
It can. But it needs to be maintained properly.
Could you tell me why it is?
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funkit09:18:48 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
It would be easier if we knew which one it is.
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Alex M - clockwork09:19:24 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
johanfriso87
Let me see...
I used my UIA as fee when transfer my UIA, but vesting balance didn't include that info.
again...INTERNALLY fees are calcculated and paid in BTS....if you pay in UIA, the UIA is converted to BTS first via the CER and the Fee pool Balance....it's that BTS that pays the fee
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Johan Friso09:20:04 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
again...INTERNALLY fees are calcculated and paid in BTS....if you pay in UIA, the UIA is converted to BTS first via the CER and the Fee pool Balance....it's that BTS that pays the fee
I see.
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Alex M - clockwork09:20:24 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
so fee pool must not be empty
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Johan Friso09:48:32 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
again...INTERNALLY fees are calcculated and paid in BTS....if you pay in UIA, the UIA is converted to BTS first via the CER and the Fee pool Balance....it's that BTS that pays the fee
Generally, UIA has CER, but has no collateral(BTS).
In this case, is it possible to convert UIA to BTS?
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Alex M - clockwork09:50:27 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
as long as you fund the fee pool with bts yes
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Alex M - clockwork09:50:40 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
you as in the UIA owner
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Johan Friso09:52:18 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
you as in the UIA owner
What happen if I (I am UIA issuer) has no BTS?
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Alex M - clockwork09:52:33 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
you cant fund fee pool
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Alex M - clockwork09:52:36 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
fee pool is empty
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Alex M - clockwork09:52:41 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
people cant pay fees with your UIA
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Johan Friso09:53:37 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
people cant pay fees with your UIA
I see.
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Johan Friso09:57:50 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Is there a way to check the Fee Pool?
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Alex M - clockwork09:59:03 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
asset page
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Johan Friso09:59:41 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
yes
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Alex M - clockwork10:04:53 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
nah
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Alex M - clockwork10:05:00 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
probably sth wrong with the ES backend
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Alex Johnson10:18:17 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hello
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Johan Friso10:24:41 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Is there a way to check the balance of Reserved Pool (BitShares Fee Pool)?
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Alex Johnson10:25:18 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
johanfriso87
Is there a way to check the balance of Reserved Pool (BitShares Fee Pool)?
Not sure
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Is there a way to check the balance of Reserved Pool (BitShares Fee Pool)?
Yes there is. The asset info page shows it as well as the explorers. At least cryptofresh has it. You can also replenish the pool from the info page, assuming you have a relatively new client or use wallet.bitshares.org
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Alex M - clockwork10:44:55 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
johanfriso87
Is there a way to check the balance of Reserved Pool (BitShares Fee Pool)?
reserve pool != fee pool
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Alex M - clockwork10:45:12 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
reserve pool is a different thing altogether
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JonnyB10:46:00 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
reserve pool and fee pool are very different things
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Elias11:46:58 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hello gentlemen!
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Elias11:47:46 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
do you know what exchange ALGO.* belongs to?
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Elias11:48:29 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
it has a lot of ops
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Elias11:48:41 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
although low volume
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Alex M - clockwork11:54:04 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
no idea
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Alex M - clockwork11:54:14 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
google search reveals nada
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Crypto Kong11:54:15 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Eliasbts
do you know what exchange ALGO.* belongs to?
Who is the issuer?
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Alex M - clockwork11:54:36 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
algo-main
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Crypto Kong11:54:55 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Weird
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Alex M - clockwork11:55:15 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
obviously some DEX frontend/gateway
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Crypto Kong11:55:18 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Might not be an exchange... maybe they are doing some algorithm stuff
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Alex M - clockwork11:55:21 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
lile escodex/easydex etc
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Crypto Kong11:55:36 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Maybe
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Crypto Kong11:55:59 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
No one mentioned anything similar whilst ive been putting my list together...
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Crypto Kong11:58:29 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Could be work in progress with no announcements
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Alex M - clockwork11:58:45 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
yeah
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Alex M - clockwork11:58:50 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
seems to be a couple of weeks old
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Crypto Kong11:58:55 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Seems unlikely though...
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Crypto Kong11:59:07 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Watch this space i guess
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Alex M - clockwork12:01:55 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
2 weeks ago
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Alex M - clockwork12:02:01 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
all the makings of a new gateway
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Alex M - clockwork12:02:13 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
algo-main, algo—reg, algo-send, algo-gateway accounts
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Alex M - clockwork12:02:14 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
etc.
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Crypto Kong12:02:14 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hope so!
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Crypto Kong12:02:25 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
algo-main, algo—reg, algo-send, algo-gateway accounts
Cool
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Alex M - clockwork12:05:06 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
ah
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Alex M - clockwork12:05:09 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
probably algowave
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Crypto Kong12:06:46 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Whats that?
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Alex M - clockwork12:07:03 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
someone posted it the other day
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Alex M - clockwork12:07:08 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.algowave.algowaveapp&hl=en
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Crypto Kong12:07:15 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
The only thing i could find in a search was something called blocky but i dont think its related
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Alex M - clockwork12:07:30 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
algowave.io
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Alex M - clockwork12:07:42 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
its supposed to be bitshares based
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Crypto Kong12:07:57 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Oh ok cool, another for the list lol
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Alex M - clockwork12:08:14 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i'd wait till mroe legitness proved
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Crypto Kong12:08:31 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Yeah i will but ill add for now so i dont forget
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Crypto Kong12:08:45 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
That would put us up to 16 dexs lol
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Slavi La Libertad12:09:48 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
16 dexs, but where is a liquidity? :)
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Crypto Kong12:10:31 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://twitter.com/cryptic_monk/status/1031897682619449344?s=19
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Crypto Kong12:10:51 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
This is what i found, not related but maybe someone finds it interesting
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Crypto Kong12:12:16 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
memset
16 dexs, but where is a liquidity? :)
Unfortunatly the liquidity is seperate for each exchange. I believe an option to be able to combine order books of seperate assets would be a great feature. Ie: combine cryptobridge and openledgers order books as a select market feature
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Alex M - clockwork12:12:47 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
speaking of liquidity
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Alex M - clockwork12:12:59 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
@cmmob considering your multi backed MPA concept
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Crypto Kong12:13:01 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
So a bitUSD-bridge.BTC+open.BTC market
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Crypto Kong12:13:28 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
@cmmob considering your multi backed MPA concept
Oh cool please tell more :)
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Alex M - clockwork12:13:48 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
could we have a DEXBTC, that can be backed by open.BTC, bridge.BTC,gdex.BTC at 1:1 fixed 100 CR and fixed 1.0000 pricefeed?
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Alex M - clockwork12:14:08 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i.e. an MPA that consolidates all gateway UIAs
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Alex M - clockwork12:14:41 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
so you deposit BTC to say openledger
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Crypto Kong12:14:46 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Would that result in an order book being more liquid?
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Alex M - clockwork12:14:47 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
receive open.BTC
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Alex M - clockwork12:14:54 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
if adopted yes
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Alex Johnson12:15:00 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hello guys
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Alex M - clockwork12:15:19 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
use that to get the same amount of DEXBTC...promote teh DEXBTC markets
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Crypto Kong12:15:28 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I think users would also want the option to select which gateways they want to trust
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Alex M - clockwork12:15:37 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
customminer will know what im talking about
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R12:16:17 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
I think users would also want the option to select which gateways they want to trust
That could be a matter of selecting an mpa with a configuration that aligns with your preferences rather than requesting a preferred settlement asset from the multi asset backed mpa
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Crypto Kong12:16:47 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
So a variety of mpas
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Crypto Kong12:16:55 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
With different combinations
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Alex M - clockwork12:16:57 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
that kinda defeats the purpose
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R12:17:02 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
The bsip draft is still in discussion on the bsip github repo: https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/100
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Crypto Kong12:17:02 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hmmm
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Alex M - clockwork12:17:22 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
my idea was to add them to the same MPA as trust grows
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Crypto Kong12:17:24 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
The bsip draft is still in discussion on the bsip github repo: https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/100
Cool thanks ill read later
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R12:17:26 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
that kinda defeats the purpose
There's many mpa right now with different configurations - they don't make each other redundant
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Alex M - clockwork12:17:53 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i mean the purpose of consolidating all gateway.BTC variants into 1 MPA => 1 market
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Alex M - clockwork12:18:07 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
for other purposes sure
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R12:18:18 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
my idea was to add them to the same MPA as trust grows
Adding more backing asset types to an existing mpa could work, however specifying what backing you want may not align with the collateral of the least collateralized position within the mpa
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Crypto Kong12:18:27 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I need to learn a bit more this conversation has quickly escalated above my understaning lol
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R12:19:05 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
i mean the purpose of consolidating all gateway.BTC variants into 1 MPA => 1 market
You could always trade it manually instead of settling? Though the bsip does mention specified and unspecified collateral preference, with unspecified being less complex
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R12:19:25 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
I need to learn a bit more this conversation has quickly escalated above my understanding lol
Abstract idea, the bsip and the last bitshares hangout should help ;D
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Crypto Kong12:19:58 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Ill listen to hangout again i skipped through a lot of it
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Stefan Schießl12:20:12 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Problem with consoliding those markets is always the reliability of the correspoding gateway. It would only work if the gateways all agree that you can send either of them to any of the gateways
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Stefan Schießl12:21:01 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Problem with consoliding those markets is always the reliability of the correspoding gateway. It would only work if the gateways all agree that you can send either of them to any of the gateways
Consolidating through creating one MPA with all the e.g. BTC as backing
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R12:21:22 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Problem with consoliding those markets is always the reliability of the correspoding gateway. It would only work if the gateways all agree that you can send either of them to any of the gateways
If one of the gateway's was compromised an attacker could also issue many eba to back MPA fraudulently, so there's certainly risk associated with Uia backed mpa nevermind multi Uia backed mpa lol
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Crypto Kong12:21:26 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Problem with consoliding those markets is always the reliability of the correspoding gateway. It would only work if the gateways all agree that you can send either of them to any of the gateways
But if a user was happy to place an order on a combined market knowing it could be filled with any mix of either gateways asset, its not a problem is it?
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Alex M - clockwork12:21:42 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sure
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Crypto Kong12:21:46 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
So i could buy $100 of btc but end up with 2 or 3 assets
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Stefan Schießl12:21:52 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
But if a user was happy to place an order on a combined market knowing it could be filled with any mix of either gateways asset, its not a problem is it?
It is if one of the gateways is down. THen I would not want taht one
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Alex M - clockwork12:22:01 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
just discussing the issues and problems that occur
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R12:22:15 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
It is if one of the gateways is down. Then I would not want that one
So gateway applicability to multi asset mpa should be highly vetted?
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Alex M - clockwork12:22:23 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
So i could buy $100 of btc but end up with 2 or 3 assets
eventually
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Crypto Kong12:22:39 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
It is if one of the gateways is down. Then I would not want that one
But if you could select the gateways you wanted you could avoid ones which were down
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Alex M - clockwork12:22:54 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
question is...if your goto exchange is the DEX
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R12:22:55 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
So i could buy $100 of btc but end up with 2 or 3 assets
Or you could buy multiUSD, then settle it for a portfolio of backing assets?
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Stefan Schießl12:22:55 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
But if you could select the gateways you wanted you could avoid ones which were down
Sure, but then you dont need the combined market in the first place, wouldnt you?
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Alex M - clockwork12:22:59 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
and has the liquidity
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Alex M - clockwork12:23:07 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
how often woudl you withdraw from it
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Alex M - clockwork12:23:12 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
and in what coin?
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Stefan Schießl12:23:31 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
The issue boils down to:
You can only combine assets where the inbetween markets have a 1:1 liquidiy ensured
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Crypto Kong12:23:44 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Sure, but then you dont need the combined market in the first place, wouldnt you?
With the choice of 15 dexs, i vant see it being a problem removing one, i was thinking the combined markets could combine multiple assets
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Stefan Schießl12:23:56 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
e.g. combine open.BTC and gdex.BTC if there is always 1:1 trading option
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Crypto Kong12:24:06 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Obviously some have way more liquidity than others thpugh
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R12:24:17 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
The issue boils down to:
You can only combine assets where the inbetween markets have a 1:1 liquidiy ensured
Market and withdraw fees do break this 1:1 so perhaps mcr should be higher on assets that have fees?
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Alex M - clockwork12:24:33 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
e.g. combine open.BTC and gdex.BTC if there is always 1:1 trading option
or you could say that combining them would force it
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Stefan Schießl12:24:42 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
No, gateways must be conform to each other. a multibacked mpa must be collateral agnostic, otherwise they wont work
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Stefan Schießl12:25:05 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
or you could say that combining them would force it
true, but we dont have the liquidity for it
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R12:25:39 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
No, gateways must be conform to each other. a multibacked mpa must be collateral agnostic, otherwise they wont work
I disagree, Uia should require greater collateral ratio due to zero blockchain collateral proof, where as bts and bts backed mpa have proven backing thus could have a lower mcr
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Stefan Schießl12:25:44 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
If I hold a multibacked MPA and I must care which is my collateral, the design is wrong
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Stefan Schießl12:26:17 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
I disagree, Uia should require greater collateral ratio due to zero blockchain collateral proof, where as bts and bts backed mpa have proven backing thus could have a lower mcr
Yes of course. I would hold of on combining bitBTC with open.BTC at this point
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Alex M - clockwork12:30:38 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
I disagree, Uia should require greater collateral ratio due to zero blockchain collateral proof, where as bts and bts backed mpa have proven backing thus could have a lower mcr
Depends
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Alex M - clockwork12:30:56 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
In the scenario above
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Alex M - clockwork12:31:17 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
One multiBTC backed by any one gateway.BTC variant
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Alex M - clockwork12:31:36 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Would need no extra collateral as such
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Alex M - clockwork12:32:29 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
You put in 1.open.btc, you get 1 multi.btc
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N s12:33:09 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
In the last twenty-four hours HOT (Holochain) has gone up almost 30% of its initial value ending the day at a $ 0.001103 USD high. Know the reason behind the rise.
https://itsblockchain.com/holochain-mozilla/
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Alex M - clockwork12:33:09 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
It's not supposed to be used for margining...that's why I said fix the pricefeed
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Alex M - clockwork12:33:16 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
To 1.00
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Alex M - clockwork12:33:35 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Only used as a way to have a common BTC
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Alex M - clockwork12:33:42 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
To join liquidity
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N s12:34:27 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
In the last twenty-four hours HOT (Holochain) has gone up almost 30% of its initial value ending the day at a $ 0.001103 USD high. Know the reason behind the rise.
https://itsblockchain.com/holochain-mozilla/
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R12:34:32 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Up to the asset owner, imo. True that if you want a 1:1 uiaBTC to mpaBTC it makes sense to have a 1:1, but if we're talking about multiFIAT then volatility of backing has to be accounted for via a high MCR
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Alex M - clockwork12:34:58 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Up to the asset owner, imo. True that if you want a 1:1 uiaBTC to mpaBTC it makes sense to have a 1:1, but if we're talking about multiFIAT then volatility of backing has to be accounted for via a high MCR
Only if backed by a derivative
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Stefan Schießl12:34:59 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
It's not supposed to be used for margining...that's why I said fix the pricefeed
+1
I like the enforced approach. That way liquidity is not necessary
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Alex M - clockwork12:35:49 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
but yeah
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Alex M - clockwork12:35:58 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
wasnt talking about mpa backed mpas
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Alex M - clockwork12:36:07 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
just joining togetehr common UIAs
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Alex M - clockwork12:36:24 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
so we get a single BTC quote that has the liquidity provided by all gateways
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Alex M - clockwork12:36:27 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
same with ETH
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Alex M - clockwork12:36:28 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
etc.
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James Russell12:51:06 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Hi
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Crypto Kong12:59:16 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I think its great we are discussing possibilities of how liquidity from various gateways can be combined but I'm struggling to understand how an mpa backed by various assets would solve that. Would it not rely on creating an entirely new market and hoping that users adopt that market rather than just using an individual gateways asset market?
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Stefan Schießl13:00:03 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
I think its great we are discussing possibilities of how liquidity from various gateways can be combined but I'm struggling to understand how an mpa backed by various assets would solve that. Would it not rely on creating an entirely new market and hoping that users adopt that market rather than just continuing to use an individual gateways asset market?
Yes
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Crypto Kong13:00:28 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Seems to me unlikely that that would happen
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Stefan Schießl13:00:45 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
If there is an agreement between gateways to trade their IOU's 1:1 you could make the UI gateway agnostic for gateways with such an agreement
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Crypto Kong13:01:25 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
That could be tricky as they are competing with each other but that option makes more sense
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Stefan Schießl13:01:53 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
The reference wallet will very soon need to enforce somewhat more conforming gateway setup anyways to be listed there
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JonnyB13:05:20 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
We need 1 trustless/semi trustless BTC gateway that everyone can use.
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Crypto Kong13:05:48 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Perhaps its because of my lack of knowledge of coding, how the blockchain works etc. that i keep going down the road of combining order books... Would it not be possible to have the ability to a "combined markets" section where a user could start with say bitUSD-open.BTC market and be able to add other assets to the order book and end up with an order book that contains all orders from bitUSD-open.BTC, bitUSD-bridge.BTC or whichever similar assets the user wanted?
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Crypto Kong13:06:38 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
We need 1 trustless/semi trustless BTC gateway that everyone can use.
This would be ideal
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Alex M - clockwork13:06:56 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Perhaps its because of my lack of knowledge of coding, how the blockchain works etc. that i keep going down the road of combining order books... Would it not be possible to have the ability to have a "combined markets" section where a user could start with say bitUSD-open.BTC market and be able to add other assets to the order book and end up with an order book that contains all orders from bitUSD-open.BTC, bitUSD-bridge.BTC or whichever similar assets the user wanted?
for viewing yes...
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JonnyB13:07:10 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
If BSIP44 passes we will have the ability to deposit BTC to gateways via cross chain atomic swaps
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Crypto Kong13:07:31 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
for viewing yes...
Not for trading/ filling orders?
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Alex M - clockwork13:08:02 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
only if the people that trade on it dont care what asset tehy receive
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Alex M - clockwork13:08:32 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
so you buy 10k USD worth of BTC and end up with 6k worth in open.BTC, 2k in bridge.BTC and 2k in gdex.btc
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Crypto Kong13:08:39 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
only if the people that trade on it dont care what asset tehy receive
This is my point exactly, these markets should be for people who dont care. Many wouldnt
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JonnyB13:08:43 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
and from there we could find a way for the witnesses/comittee to be a real time issuer of deposited BTC
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Crypto Kong13:09:09 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
so you buy 10k USD worth of BTC and end up with 6k worth in open.BTC, 2k in bridge.BTC and 2k in gdex.btc
Exactly what i was thinking, we are on the same page 👍
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Stefan Schießl13:09:11 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
This is my point exactly, these markets should be for people who dont care. Many wouldnt
It can't be automatic as long as there is such a big difference (meaning not 1:1 markets inbetween IOUs)
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Alex M - clockwork13:09:28 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
and from there we could find a way for the witnesses/comittee to be a real time issuer of deposited BTC
much thought has been given on this...not as easy as youd expect
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Crypto Kong13:10:15 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
It can't be automatic as long as there is such a big difference (meaning not 1:1 markets inbetween IOUs)
Sorry i dont understand your point
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Stefan Schießl13:10:51 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Lets reverse back in time couple weeks when OpenLedger EOS gateway was down, and look on the rudex.EOS/open.EOS market
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JonnyB13:10:57 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
even so, crosschain atomic swaps from real BTC to GATEWAY.BTC will make the gateways much more accountable and easier to monitor
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Stefan Schießl13:10:58 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Sorry i dont understand your point
Lets reverse back in time couple weeks when OpenLedger EOS gateway was down, and look on the rudex.EOS/open.EOS market
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Alex M - clockwork13:11:13 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Lets reverse back in time couple weeks when OpenLedger EOS gateway was down, and look on the rudex.EOS/open.EOS market
doesnt matter...
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Alex M - clockwork13:11:19 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
open.EOS market woudl be down to
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Alex M - clockwork13:11:27 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
so orders wouldnt get filled
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Alex M - clockwork13:11:35 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
open.EOS/usd i mean
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Fabian Schuh 13:11:43 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
even so, crosschain atomic swaps from real BTC to GATEWAY.BTC will make the gateways much more accountable and easier to monitor
How so?
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Stefan Schießl13:11:46 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
open.EOS market woudl be down to
The gateway reported to be working a while even though it wasnt.
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Alex M - clockwork13:12:24 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
doesnt change things
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Stefan Schießl13:12:26 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
open.EOS market woudl be down to
Who would be responsible for deactivating the market when gateway down?
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Alex M - clockwork13:12:27 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
my point is
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Alex M - clockwork13:12:44 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
why?
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Alex M - clockwork13:12:54 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
do peopel trade and withdraw immediately?
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Alex M - clockwork13:13:12 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
a momentary problem shouldnt cause peopel to stop trading
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Stefan Schießl13:13:16 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
If you look at the IOU to IOU market back then it did matter
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Alex M - clockwork13:13:16 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
migth influence the price
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Alex M - clockwork13:13:20 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
yes
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Alex M - clockwork13:13:32 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
but it doesnt matter in teh scenario crypto kong is describing
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Alex M - clockwork13:13:34 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
the poitn is
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Crypto Kong13:13:38 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Lets reverse back in time couple weeks when OpenLedger EOS gateway was down, and look on the rudex.EOS/open.EOS market
I see your point but i would expect users who use these markets to understand the risks of combing markets
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Alex M - clockwork13:13:39 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i have 10k USD
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Alex M - clockwork13:13:44 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I want to buy BTC
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Alex M - clockwork13:13:50 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i dont care what 'brand' it is
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Alex M - clockwork13:13:56 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
but i want teh best price
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Alex M - clockwork13:14:03 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
now,
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JonnyB13:14:32 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
xeroc
How so?
the current supply of open.btc is 1000 it should change in real time as people deposit and withdraw. also with cross chain atomic swaps you know will receive OPEN.BTC for definate or get your BTC back. currently you may get stuck in limbo.
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Alex M - clockwork13:14:39 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
USD/open.BTC market has 0.5 BTC for sale at 5k and 0.5 at 6k
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Crypto Kong13:14:55 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
i dont care what 'brand' it is
Exactly, you still hold an asset representative of what you wanted... you just cant withdraw it yet
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Alex M - clockwork13:15:01 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
USD/gdex.BTC has 0.5 at 4800 and 0.5 at 5.3k
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Alex M - clockwork13:15:09 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i wanna palce a single order
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Alex M - clockwork13:15:18 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
and it gets filled with 0.5 from the GDEX orderbook
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Stefan Schießl13:15:23 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Ok, you mean that the UI displays it as one but actually trades on all the underlying markets automatically
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Alex M - clockwork13:15:26 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
and 0,5 from the Open one
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Alex M - clockwork13:15:29 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
well
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Alex M - clockwork13:15:40 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
it could be supported by the chain matchign algorithm to
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Alex M - clockwork13:15:44 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
too
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Alex M - clockwork13:16:00 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
a specially configured market /asset so to speak
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Stefan Schießl13:16:13 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Problem is it opens instantly new arbitration angles at the expense of the common user
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Stefan Schießl13:16:28 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Maybe not problem, but it does
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Alex M - clockwork13:17:04 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
anyway
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Alex M - clockwork13:17:14 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
just random discussions :)
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Alex M - clockwork13:17:33 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
I bet someone coudl code a special frontend for it
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Alex M - clockwork13:17:40 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
for the off-chain solution
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Crypto Kong13:17:46 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Ok, you mean that the UI displays it as one but actually trades on all the underlying markets automatically
Yes
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JonnyB13:17:57 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
having many BTC flavours is really damaging for liquidity and makes things more complex
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Alex M - clockwork13:18:11 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
having many BTC flavours is really damaging for liquidity and makes things more complex
hence the discussion above :)
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Crypto Kong13:18:28 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
having many BTC flavours is really damaging for liquidity and makes things more complex
☝
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JonnyB13:18:56 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
using many flavors of BTC as collateral makes no sense to me.
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Alex M - clockwork13:19:19 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
using many flavors of BTC as collateral makes no sense to me.
was talkign about a specially designed asset in order to consolidate liquidity
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EstefanTT13:20:08 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
memset
Hey, @EstefanTT, do you have an issue with a data from Bitshares node? ☝️
problem solved ;)
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Slavi La Libertad13:20:18 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
EstefanTT
problem solved ;)
👌👍
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JonnyB13:20:35 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
yes but using different BTC flavours which each have different risk profiles makes no sense.
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JonnyB13:22:02 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
we need to focus energy and ideas on a proper trustless gateway/sidechain for BTC
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JonnyB13:22:25 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
cross chain atomic swaps are the first step in that direction
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Alex M - clockwork13:22:48 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
we need to focus energy and ideas on a proper trustless gateway/sidechain for BTC
Committee/witness multisig is the only option so far
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Alex M - clockwork13:23:06 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Problem being that both change memberships in regular intervals
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George (Bitspark)13:24:28 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Gateway IOUs can never be 1:1, when pricing a gateway UIA you take into consideration the counterparty risk of the gateway
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JonnyB13:24:56 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
George_Bitspark
Gateway IOUs can never be 1:1, when pricing a gateway UIA you take into consideration the counterparty risk of the gateway
this
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George (Bitspark)13:25:25 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
if some gateway takes ages to credit or withdraw your UIA you should price them differntly to another gateway that is prompt and proves reserves
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George (Bitspark)13:25:31 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
thats the whole point of competing UIAs
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JonnyB13:25:56 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
yes, Right now you could deposit real bitcoin to a gateway and not receive your GATEWAY.BTC for a few days. with Crosschain atomic swaps this wouldn't happen
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George (Bitspark)13:26:07 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
if you want to maximise liquidty between them, nothing is stopping some private entity market making between them and mixing them to provide one 'orderbook' that consists of all the gateway assets they trust
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George (Bitspark)13:26:48 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
yes, Right now you could deposit real bitcoin to a gateway and not receive your GATEWAY.BTC for a few days. with Crosschain atomic swaps this wouldn't happen
well we do it in less than <15mins 😉 but yeh maybe aotmic swaps will be good, need to see it in implementation before can comment
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George (Bitspark)13:27:12 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
e.g. does issuance happen at x confirms on bitcoin? who defines that?
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JonnyB13:27:20 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
"Atomic" means the trade happens completely or not at all.
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JonnyB13:27:52 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
the HTLC
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George (Bitspark)13:28:01 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
"Atomic" means the trade happens completely or not at all.
if i deposit bitcoin via an atomic swap, i pay really low fee and it doesnt get confirmed for days do i still get my asset on the bts dex?
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JonnyB13:28:44 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
no but you can retrieve your sent BTC without anyones permission
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George (Bitspark)13:29:44 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
interesting
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Alex M - clockwork13:30:05 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
it is timelocked
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Alex M - clockwork13:30:25 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
it would be returned by specified tiem if nto fulfilled on the dex side before X time
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Alex M - clockwork13:30:32 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
no action needed
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Alex M - clockwork13:30:35 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
read BSIP44
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George (Bitspark)13:30:36 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
George_Bitspark
if you want to maximise liquidty between them, nothing is stopping some private entity market making between them and mixing them to provide one 'orderbook' that consists of all the gateway assets they trust
^this though is possible right now, ANX do this for their trading since forever, very useful
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George (Bitspark)13:31:14 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
it would be returned by specified tiem if nto fulfilled on the dex side before X time
thats cool 👍👍
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JonnyB13:31:19 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
it is timelocked
yes it is, but you can definitely get it back which is good.
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Alex M - clockwork13:31:36 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i know...i'm sayign that you dont even need to do anything
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JonnyB13:31:59 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
read BSIP44
I have, its the next big step forward for bitshares
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Alex M - clockwork13:32:10 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
was talking to george :)
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JonnyB13:32:28 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
i know...i'm sayign that you dont even need to do anything
yes sorry, you automatically get refunded
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Alex M - clockwork13:32:36 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
because it seemed he was unfamiliar with TLC
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Alex M - clockwork13:32:38 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
HTLC
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George (Bitspark)13:33:29 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
it would be returned by specified tiem if nto fulfilled on the dex side before X time
how do you spend the bitcoin output (return it) if it hasnt been confirmed yet?
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George (Bitspark)13:34:10 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
ill need to read BSIP44 tonight
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JonnyB13:34:39 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
i guess the down side of deposits via atomic swaps is you have to control the bitcoin address that you send from.
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JonnyB13:35:20 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
so you shouldn't deposit from an exchange wallet for example
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Alex M - clockwork13:35:41 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
George_Bitspark
how do you spend the bitcoin output (return it) if it hasnt been confirmed yet?
it hasnt been claimed in the first place
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Alex M - clockwork13:35:57 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
it's pay 2 script
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Alex M - clockwork13:36:06 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
ratehr than pay 2 public key
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George (Bitspark)13:36:11 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
^so sender client need to be compatible
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Alex M - clockwork13:36:17 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
nah
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Alex M - clockwork13:36:20 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
just teh chain
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Alex M - clockwork13:36:26 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
bitcoin for example allows it
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Alex M - clockwork13:36:35 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
funds are locked until claimed
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Alex M - clockwork13:36:37 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
to claim
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Alex M - clockwork13:37:07 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
you need private key + text to produce a specific hash + within timeout
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Alex M - clockwork13:38:16 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
if timeout reached...funds are unlocked back to sender
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JonnyB13:38:20 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Hashed_Timelock_Contracts
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George (Bitspark)13:38:20 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
and claiming on BTS will be a new OP?
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Alex M - clockwork13:38:43 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
George_Bitspark
and claiming on BTS will be a new OP?
yeah
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George (Bitspark)13:38:57 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
👍 i see makes sense then, will read more
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Alex M - clockwork13:39:28 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/blob/492851edfc1196cbb8487510a7c54dea9fa4a4a3/bsip-0044.md
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Alex M - clockwork13:39:30 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
latest draft
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Alex M - clockwork13:40:40 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
the example for cross chain assumes a p2p a to be swap
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Alex M - clockwork13:40:53 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
just asume that one party is a gateway like OL
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Alex M - clockwork13:40:59 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
and it makes sense
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Alex M - clockwork13:41:12 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
still trust requird for counterparty
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Alex M - clockwork13:41:19 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
but at least the swap itself is atomic
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Alex M - clockwork13:42:07 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
if you manage to also elimiate counterparty risk (e.g. a witness multisig BTC wallet)
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Alex M - clockwork13:42:14 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
things get very interesting
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Alex M - clockwork13:42:50 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
(well..not eliminate...but trusting a witness multisig is equivalent to trusting teh DEX in general)
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fav13:43:22 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Why is it so complex?
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fav13:43:40 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Bts private keys are essentially bitcoin keys too
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fav13:47:30 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Just need a smartcontract that multi sig blocks your BTc adr linked to bts private key, and it issues bts.btc for incoming tx
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Jonathan Bahai13:50:45 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
Just need a smartcontract that multi sig blocks your BTc adr linked to bts private key, and it issues bts.btc for incoming tx
Sounds simple enough but there are many technical issues in achieving that
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Alex M - clockwork13:54:15 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
well..it assumes peopel are comfortable enough with PKs
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Alex M - clockwork13:54:43 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
and not use somethign like electron which has bip38 derived keys
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Alex M - clockwork13:54:51 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
or cloud accoutns on btishares etc
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JonnyB13:57:10 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
just asume that one party is a gateway like OL
Atomic deposits 😃
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JonnyB14:09:34 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
question: are atomic swaps always kill or fill orders or can they do partial fills?
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Alex M - clockwork14:10:13 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
fill or kill basically
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Alex M - clockwork14:10:26 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
you provide the preimage ..get full amount
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Alex M - clockwork14:10:36 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
sender uses the preimage...gets full amount
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John Jones14:10:41 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
Atomic swaps in HTLCs "hold" funds, so cannot be created if the funds aren't there from the start.
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John Jones14:14:01 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
(sorry if I'm jumping into the middle of a conversation, I haven't read too far of what is above)
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JonnyB14:14:07 - 03 Sep 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
fill or kill basically
thanks