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C.P. Bentley Pixel 🇧🇪12:42:25 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i think BTS is under valued to Bitcoin. so buying bitBTC is a good way to trade that
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C.P. Bentley Pixel 🇧🇪12:42:47 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
err lol
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KRK12:56:04 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://bitsharestalk.org/ Your account is still awaiting admin approval. It's been 15days, still shows the same above message. What should I do to get my account approved?
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KRK13:00:28 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
"Your account is still awaiting admin approval." It's been 15days now, still my account has not yet verified. It shows the same above message every time. What should I do to get my account verified. Could someone please help? https://bitsharestalk.org
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KRK13:00:52 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hi
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KRK13:03:07 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://bitsharestalk.org Your account is still awaiting admin approval. It's been 15days now, till date my account has not yet verified. Only the above message is shown everytime I try to login in bitsharestalk. Could someone please help?
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KRK13:04:38 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://bitsharestalk.org Your account is still awaiting admin approval. It's been 15days now. Till date my account has not yet verified. Only the above message is shown everytime I try to login to bitsharestalk. Could someone please help?
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KRK13:15:14 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Your account is still awaiting admin approval. It's been 15days now. Till date my account has not yet verified. Only the above message is shown everytime I try to login to bitsharestalk. Could someone please help?
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Abit More13:35:08 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cpbentley
me too but i don't understand the revival process
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=25417.0 read with google translate
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FarmerD13:42:53 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
Wow, I'm surprised Michael was able to click the right buttons to vote for a real wp
I feel sad when I read comments like this, If you have problems with Michael I wish you'd talk to him. He is a resonable person, and I think you are too. I'm thinking of putting in a WP to hire a mediator to come to bitfest. I think it would be good for bitshares if you two could find some common ground. I don't think you need to agree, but maybe you could understand each other a little more..
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nomoreheroes713:47:13 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
farmerD
I feel sad when I read comments like this, If you have problems with Michael I wish you'd talk to him. He is a resonable person, and I think you are too. I'm thinking of putting in a WP to hire a mediator to come to bitfest. I think it would be good for bitshares if you two could find some common ground. I don't think you need to agree, but maybe you could understand each other a little more..
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Ishola13:52:26 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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Andrey Semenov14:26:09 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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fav14:41:58 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
farmerD
I feel sad when I read comments like this, If you have problems with Michael I wish you'd talk to him. He is a resonable person, and I think you are too. I'm thinking of putting in a WP to hire a mediator to come to bitfest. I think it would be good for bitshares if you two could find some common ground. I don't think you need to agree, but maybe you could understand each other a little more..
I'd rather ask myself why this proxy doesn't even support bitfest funding, instead of being sad.
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You Dontknow14:43:37 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Could someone give me the link to bitshares GUI support ? Have some trouble with paying in eth
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Stefan Schießl14:44:32 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Angrysec
Could someone give me the link to bitshares GUI support ? Have some trouble with paying in eth
Sounds like a gateway problem. Which eth?
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You Dontknow14:44:59 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Open eth /.normal eth from MEW
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You Dontknow14:45:27 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
but GUI doesn’t generate a Adress to deposit
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You Dontknow14:45:58 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
When using beta function , when using the normal deposit action The screen just turns white
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You Dontknow14:46:34 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Can’t post pictures at the moment ☝️ new member
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Stefan Schießl14:46:43 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Angrysec
When using beta function , when using the normal deposit action The screen just turns white
@OpenLedger4Members
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FarmerD14:46:52 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
I'd rather ask myself why this proxy doesn't even support bitfest funding, instead of being sad.
As I am a big fan of bitfest and I want to see it happen (I even wrote a steemit in support of bitfest) I did ask him. And his answer to me was reasonable given the circumstances. I don't feel at liberty to share here what he said to me. But I'm sure he'd tell you why he's not supporting it if you ask him.
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You Dontknow14:47:00 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Thx
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fav14:49:04 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
farmerD
As I am a big fan of bitfest and I want to see it happen (I even wrote a steemit in support of bitfest) I did ask him. And his answer to me was reasonable given the circumstances. I don't feel at liberty to share here what he said to me. But I'm sure he'd tell you why he's not supporting it if you ask him.
so a 70m+ proxy has issues with transparency?
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FarmerD15:08:09 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
so a 70m+ proxy has issues with transparency?
No I'm not saying that, it just not my place to speak for him, that's all
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Fabian Schuh15:08:34 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cptnSolo
sure. but there is a huge conflict of interest between X and BBF and trying to meet BBF's recommendations only to get their (actually xeroc's) votes - it's not the good strategy, imo. BBF positions itself as an escrow (like blockchained does, and may be we could find even more escrow) . But voters looks (may be, not mandatory) for BBF "approval". Why not just looking in the proposal itself?
Good point. It needs to be made *much* more clear that BBF does **not** give approval to workers. There is a clear statement somewhere that says that BBF does **not** interfer with on-chain voting. Still, that doesn't solve **my** conflict of interest being in support for the BBF and a big proxy
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Fabian Schuh15:10:08 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
The only thing that I can do to better the situation is transparency .. that is what I plan to present during bitfest ... Those that can't wait are free to look into https://workers.bitshares.foundation.
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John Pole Fernandez15:15:45 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hello sir ?
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John Pole Fernandez15:15:58 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Im from Philippines nice to meet you all
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FarmerD15:19:25 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
John Pole Fernandez
Im from Philippines nice to meet you all
From Canada here 🇨🇦 hello and welcome. 👋
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John Pole Fernandez15:19:52 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hi hahaha so what is bit share dex all about ?
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fav15:38:45 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
farmerD
No I'm not saying that, it just not my place to speak for him, that's all
sure, where is a public forum post to ask questions?
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FarmerD15:49:33 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
sure, where is a public forum post to ask questions?
I think this is a great idea. I'm ashamed to say that I don't spend much time on the bitsharestalk forum. Is there a thread for followers to ask proxies questions? It be a good thing I think.
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Alex M - clockwork15:50:31 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
farmerD
I think this is a great idea. I'm ashamed to say that I don't spend much time on the bitsharestalk forum. Is there a thread for followers to ask proxies questions? It be a good thing I think.
Yes, proxies have threads . Fav, xeroc Kevin bitcrab et
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q Dex16:01:58 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
#hi
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Andrey Kustov18:18:06 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Is now exist 24/7 suport telegram channel openledger? I am lost adress.
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Stefan Schießl18:28:27 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Andrey Kustov
Is now exist 24/7 suport telegram channel openledger? I am lost adress.
@OpenLedger4Members
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Luis Tavizon18:40:40 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
good afternoon
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Luis Tavizon18:41:13 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
is this for btc,eth,ltc and all crypto?
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Luis Tavizon18:41:58 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/ETH_Faucet_bot?start=676491387
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Luis Tavizon18:42:07 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/ETH_Faucet_bot?start=676491387
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Luis Tavizon18:42:17 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/ETH_Faucet_bot?start=676491387
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Luis Tavizon18:42:21 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/ETH_Faucet_bot?start=676491387
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fav18:47:53 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
no
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Stefan Schießl18:53:33 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Luis Tavizon
is this for btc,eth,ltc and all crypto?
Non native cryptos are made available on BitShares through Gateways, e.g. OpenLedger or CryptoBridge. They normally run their own UI as well, but you can trade those as well on wallet.bitshares.org
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EstefanTT19:37:40 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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Santos_LNP19:38:28 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
guys have dude where can crwate a token?? dont look option
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Santos_LNP19:38:31 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
in website
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Crypto Kong19:41:54 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
investcrypto1
guys have dude where can crwate a token?? dont look option
top right corner, menu button (three lines), select the assets tab, you do it from there. :)
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gusto19:42:18 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Why cant come to my transfer eteryum
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funkit19:45:13 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Ask vitalik 🤓
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Victor Long20:12:09 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
http://t.me/EasyBTCMiningBot?start=545525728 http://t.me/Bitcoin_Cloud_Mining_bot?start=545525728 t.me/CryptoFarmerBot?start=545525728
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funkit20:53:30 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Shoutout to @sigvek ! Just exported a looong history using the new export function. And it looked super clean! I have been waiting for something like this a long time. Next on my wishlist, a balance sheet. It would be great if one could split up the export from date to date, last month, last three months or last year. But I'm sure you already thought of that. Frikken ragtagsshares starts to look smooth...
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svk20:54:14 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
funkit
Shoutout to @sigvek ! Just exported a looong history using the new export function. And it looked super clean! I have been waiting for something like this a long time. Next on my wishlist, a balance sheet. It would be great if one could split up the export from date to date, last month, last three months or last year. But I'm sure you already thought of that. Frikken ragtagsshares starts to look smooth...
Glad you like it :)
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svk20:54:43 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Some more advanced functionality like sorting etc could certainly be added
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funkit20:56:14 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Could also be done in excel. Or some other spreadsheet. Most important is the data.
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svk20:59:59 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Right. That data goes straight into cointracking.info if you use that
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funkit21:00:16 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Looking into it
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Guillaume Desrosiers21:53:44 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hello! Looking for help with the open.eth gateway.
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Guillaume Desrosiers21:54:06 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
It doesnt recognize any eth address
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fractalnode21:58:31 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
edm1st
Hello! Looking for help with the open.eth gateway.
https://t.me/OpenLedger4Members
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Jessie ICO22:05:01 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
hi all, who can help me with ico, write in pm pls
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Jessie ICO22:06:16 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
hi all, who can help me with ico, write me pls
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Syed Hamza22:53:58 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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Syed Hamza22:55:20 - 21 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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oco10103:09:38 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I have local wallet bitshares version 180814 when trying the withdraw open.eos I got a white screen . Tried different other whidraws option like open.btc it is working normally. It looks like a bug or is just me ?
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funkit03:17:20 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Oco101
I have local wallet bitshares version 180814 when trying the withdraw open.eos I got a white screen . Tried different other whidraws option like open.btc it is working normally. It looks like a bug or is just me ?
Restart the app/browser and try again. If it reoccurs, consider filing a bug report on GitHub. There is also a release candidate that is newer you might want to try: https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/releases
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ades tna03:26:01 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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funkit03:55:01 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Oco101
I have local wallet bitshares version 180814 when trying the withdraw open.eos I got a white screen . Tried different other whidraws option like open.btc it is working normally. It looks like a bug or is just me ?
I get the exact same problem. Openledger.io seems to work fine. Try loging on there.
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oco10104:01:33 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
funkit
Restart the app/browser and try again. If it reoccurs, consider filing a bug report on GitHub. There is also a release candidate that is newer you might want to try: https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/releases
Restarting is not working and noticed that is doing the same think with some other openledger assets open.eosdac and open.xsd. Thank you for your support à
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Johan Friso04:25:24 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Could someone let me know about the way how to sync with my own public node?
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Andy Cheung12:28:07 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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Qeme15:28:48 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Ronny nice withdrawal fees on the EOS gateway, keep up the good work.
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R16:10:57 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Not nice open.grc downtime though 👎
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M16:32:57 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Imagine where we would be had the fudsters not ruined arisebank. M: https://steemit.com/dweb/@distributedweb/freedom-series-part-1-the-comeback-the-great-chain-and-the-eleven-commandments-of-the-dweb
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Qeme16:44:57 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Not nice open.grc downtime though 👎
Yeah it was a sarcasm it's 0.7 EOS fee, what the hell?
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R16:44:57 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Cloakcoin_Fast_Proven_Private
Imagine where we would be had the fudsters not ruined arisebank. M: https://steemit.com/dweb/@distributedweb/freedom-series-part-1-the-comeback-the-great-chain-and-the-eleven-commandments-of-the-dweb
You mean the SEC?
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Abit More16:47:37 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
johanfriso87
Could someone let me know about the way how to sync with my own public node in cli_wallet?
cli_wallet doesn't sync.
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Abit More16:47:57 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
once connected to a node, try `info` command
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M16:52:05 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
By 'fudsters', you mean the SEC? lol..
I mean fav specifically, but a few others. The SEC has found no fraud on the part of Jared, fyi
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Stefan Schießl16:53:56 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Cloakcoin_Fast_Proven_Private
Imagine where we would be had the fudsters not ruined arisebank. M: https://steemit.com/dweb/@distributedweb/freedom-series-part-1-the-comeback-the-great-chain-and-the-eleven-commandments-of-the-dweb
Interesting side blow with the choice of wording
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R16:54:55 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Cloakcoin_Fast_Proven_Private
I mean fav specifically, but a few others. The SEC has found no fraud on the part of Jared, fyi
so all of the arisebank assets have been returned then?
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Once Uponatime16:57:15 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
so all of the arisebank assets have been returned then? That's great, must have been a lot of BTS & that bank too, great news mate 👍
Are you being deliberately obtuse? Or just having a bad day.
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R16:57:31 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
onceponatime
Are you being deliberately obtuse? Or just having a bad day.
He's saying that's all made up fud?
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Once Uponatime16:59:40 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
It was FUD spread to the authorities by known and unknown parties that got him raided by the FBI and the SEC. Absolutely nothing has held up under scrutiny.
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Once Uponatime17:01:29 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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Once Uponatime17:01:33 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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Once Uponatime17:01:34 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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Once Uponatime17:01:35 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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M17:01:41 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
so all of the arisebank assets have been returned then? That's great, must have been a lot of BTS & that bank too, great news mate 👍
No they haven't been returned, but that's because the SEC is also engaged in fraud with the receiver. The lawsuit against those members will lay it out for everyone adversely affected by those who fucked us bitshares holders who also invested in arisebank. Fav, aka Mathias will be seeing a lawsuit soon enough and there will be plenty of us going class action on him and other complicit fudsters.
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fav17:03:03 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
please keep the shit in your channels, thanks.
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fav17:03:22 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
no need to attrackt the flies every time :')
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Stefan Schießl17:04:16 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Fascinated by the side blow with the choice of wording...
... for me this looks like a a continuation of the unnecessary tension. Merely the fact of the structure (not the content) of the article makes it look unprofessional und makes me sadly loose interest in reading it
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Stefan Schießl17:04:47 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
no need to attract the flies every time :')
Please do allow a link to the article
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fav17:04:57 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
nope
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Once Uponatime17:06:10 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
... for me this looks like a a continuation of the unnecessary tension. Merely the fact of the structure (not the content) of the article makes it look unprofessional und makes me sadly loose interest in reading it
The UNNECESSARY tension wasn't Jared Rice with guns pointed at his head in the early morning hours? You have got to be kidding me.
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Once Uponatime17:06:38 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
We are NOW into the necessary tension.\
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Stefan Schießl17:07:06 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
onceponatime
The UNNECESSARY tension wasn't Jared Rice with guns pointed at his head in the early morning hours? You have got to be kidding me.
That is in the past and has been addressed multitude of times. Not meant as talking that down
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R17:07:43 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
onceponatime
It was FUD spread to the authorities by known and unknown parties that got him raided by the FBI and the SEC. Absolutely nothing has held up under scrutiny.
FUD or not, there was sufficient evidence to uphold a cease and decist which was not appealed - are there any public updates to back up your claims that nothing has held up under scrutiny? Last docs I can find were in jan?
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IFTTT17:08:02 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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Wani17:08:02 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
/connect_group@IFTTT
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Stefan Schießl17:08:06 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I merely stated what it looks like to me as someone who's was not involved and would be interested in any project going in that is Bitshares related
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R17:08:10 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Cloakcoin_Fast_Proven_Private
I mean fav specifically, but a few others. The SEC has found no fraud on the part of Jared, fyi
https://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2018/compa24088.pdf They directly name him as a defendant though ..
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Wani17:08:40 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Who wants a free ecp token?
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Sunil Sage17:08:48 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
hey all
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Binuaral Beats17:13:23 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
nope
Can we get any explanation as to why a bitshares related article can not be posted here?🤔
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fav17:13:38 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I do not support fraudsters
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Binuaral Beats17:14:08 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Even if they proven the opposite?
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R17:14:23 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
chiraagnd
Can we get any explanation as to why a bitshares related article can not be posted here?🤔
many anti-spam bots
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Taconator17:20:52 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
https://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2018/compa24088.pdf They directly name him as a defendant though ..
I heard that nothing came of it
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R17:24:58 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Taconator
I heard that nothing came of it
http://arisebankreceiver.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/086-2018-08-14-086-Order-granting-extension-of-time-for-Defendant-J.-Rice-to....pdf 2 days till final complaint response deadline - guess we'll know more in a couple days time? 🤷‍♂️ Anyways, back to BTS chat 👍
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fav17:28:00 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
glad we found out that the case is still on-going and nothing came of it yet
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Abdul Latif17:32:52 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
can i stake this coin?
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R17:33:56 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
battosai1
can i stake this coin?
no
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Daisuke@OKEx17:34:29 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Japanese group?
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fav17:36:59 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
DICE_COLD
Japanese group?
there's none I guess
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Stefan Schießl18:09:09 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
glad we found out that the case is still on-going and nothing came of it yet
You did call him fraudster above, which fuels the discussion even more
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fav18:17:07 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
so does the united states of america in a court ruling
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Stefan Schießl18:17:43 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
so does the united states of america in a court ruling
Is there already a conviction?
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fav18:17:51 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
yup, way before crypto
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Natalie Brooks18:20:35 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hello everyone
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funkit18:23:59 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
😂
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Once Uponatime18:36:04 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
You did call him fraudster above, which fuels the discussion even more
Jedi Masteradmin U want to know something funny They only get mad because they know they’re wrong And they know they treated me wrong man I delivered Case closed Apologize to me and move on It’s really that simple
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Inspector Gadget18:36:40 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
onceponatime
Jedi Masteradmin U want to know something funny They only get mad because they know they’re wrong And they know they treated me wrong man I delivered Case closed Apologize to me and move on It’s really that simple
Delivered what ? Bullshit ? Lmao.
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Inspector Gadget18:36:53 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Casebook isnt closed.
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Stefan Schießl18:37:24 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
yup, way before crypto
Is that publicly available?
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fav18:40:28 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
yes
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Ricardo V19:06:23 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Goddamn that shitstory again. So tired of this soap. Daily bts drama isnt even a meme anymore
JM
J.T. Marlin19:08:35 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hi any admins here that can help with a couple of tx's ?
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funkit19:52:40 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
JT_Marlin
Hi any admins here that can help with a couple of tx's ?
What's the problem?
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B21:35:20 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hi
JM
John mcguire21:35:32 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
hi
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B21:35:33 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
New hairdrop incoming
JM
John mcguire21:35:42 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
can i share my ta image?
JM
John mcguire21:35:50 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
it says im restricted
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B21:35:51 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Sure
B
B21:36:11 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I got some good TA over here also brah
B
B21:36:39 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
/connect_channel@IFTTT
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IFTTT21:36:40 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Please use this button if you'd like to connect one of your Telegram channels to IFTTT.
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B21:36:49 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Dude
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B21:36:57 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Cant post my ta
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Andrew21:37:23 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hi
B
B21:39:52 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hi brah
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Andrew21:41:22 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
What's good
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Andrew21:41:32 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hello do you know is possible now to earn $3,700 in just five days with minimum investment of $500 if you are interested message me directly for more info
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da Lexx a.k.a. Cody Marx Bailey21:41:50 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
fibonacci011235
Cant post my ta
better so
DL
da Lexx a.k.a. Cody Marx Bailey21:41:59 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
no one want to see ot here
DL
da Lexx a.k.a. Cody Marx Bailey21:42:08 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Andrew1969
Hello do you know is possible now to earn $3,700 in just five days with minimum investment of $500 if you are interested message me directly for more info
stop this shit
DL
da Lexx a.k.a. Cody Marx Bailey21:42:35 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
you catching the wrong channel. try dodgecoin telegram
JM
John mcguire21:44:32 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
gzuz_342
stop this shit
why cant we post TA?
JM
John mcguire21:44:44 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Andrew1969
Hello do you know is possible now to earn $3,700 in just five days with minimum investment of $500 if you are interested message me directly for more info
is this an MLM channel?
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funkit21:46:59 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
jjxdeezxnuts
why cant we post TA?
There are designated channels for that. This one is for Bitshares dex primarily.
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B21:49:28 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
/
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IFTTT21:49:49 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
No active command to cancel. I wasn't doing anything anyway. Zzzzz...
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John mcguire21:49:49 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
/cancel@IFTTT
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B21:49:58 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Where is the fucking TA chznnel bro
B
B21:50:06 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Need to warn people
B
B21:50:13 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
For next hairdrop
JM
John mcguire21:50:14 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
post links for ta channel please
B
B21:50:33 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Your ass is on the line dude
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funkit21:55:46 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Try here: https://t.me/Bitshares_Traders
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funkit21:56:44 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Personally I like this better. Better memes: https://t.me/cryptotradingtalk
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Cointroller22:17:08 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Oh my gosh haha, my finger hurt from deleting a lot of that lol
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Collin T22:17:16 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Inspect0r_gadget
Still drinking the Jared kool aid I see.
I think he is right when he says u prob have his name tattooed on you
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Collin T22:17:25 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
you talk bout him so much
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Collin T22:17:29 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
you in love lol
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Inspector Gadget aka cody marx bailey22:18:14 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Why look we have 2 more cult members here in the wild.
IG
Inspector Gadget aka cody marx bailey22:18:26 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I heard y’all making a movie.
IG
Inspector Gadget aka cody marx bailey22:18:39 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
20th century fox and hbo.
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nomoreheroes722:19:09 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
What happened to bringing the community back together...? 🤔
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Stefan Schießl22:20:45 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Do not spam please, and voice messages are for not appropriate in here
IG
Inspector Gadget aka cody marx bailey22:21:00 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Do not spam please, and voice messages are not appropriate in here
Okay.
IG
Inspector Gadget aka cody marx bailey22:21:36 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Do not spam please, and voice messages are not appropriate in here
I’m just having too much fun really. Sorry about that.
SD
star D23:03:32 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
1fCv5yrmVz8S8HPgVGRLVQ9qxmiGrR5xY I sent bitcoin to this wallet and I received 2bitcoins
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Inspector Gadget aka cody marx bailey23:04:57 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Official_starD
1fCv5yrmVz8S8HPgVGRLVQ9qxmiGrR5xY I sent bitcoin to this wallet and I received 2bitcoins
For realz bro ? I have some cult members that believe In This stuff. They also believe in the Easter egg bunny. They will love this shit.
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funkit23:19:49 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
It's been taken care of
CT
Collin T23:44:54 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
what has been taken care of
CT
Collin T23:44:56 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
im confused
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Collin T23:45:39 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
nomoreheroes7
What happened to bringing the community back together...? 🤔
I'm just waiting on someone to fork the chain. This typically happens at all chains at some point.
CT
Collin T23:45:45 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
This community just can't get a long and I have only been here few weeks
CT
Collin T23:45:55 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
then i get called a cult member
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Collin T23:47:42 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
just a BTS supporter wanting to stick to BTS instead of this Jared guy or infighting. While they say his article is unprofessional, what do you call this? @funkit you are a leader here so what do you think? I am in many other communities and you don't see it this badly. I'm just curious what your plan is for BTS or what BTS leadership plan is to clean up the community
CT
Collin T23:48:05 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
you just deleted my response that was a question about state of community
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funkit23:52:17 - 22 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Collin T
what has been taken care of
Spam.
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funkit00:03:25 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I'm careful not to think too loudly. Keep in mind there are no management as you are used to in bitshares. So if you stumble upon a claim that "bitshares has partnered with..." or something to that effect, it's probably false. There are however businesses running their operations on bitshares that do this regularly.
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Inspector Gadget aka cody marx bailey00:05:39 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Collin T
then i get called a cult member
You in the the tragedy comedy movie also ?
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Collin T00:06:15 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
funkit
I'm careful not to think too loudly. Keep in mind there are no management as you are used to in bitshares. So if you stumble upon a claim that "bitshares has partnered with..." or something to that effect, it's probably false. There are however businesses running their operations on bitshares that do this.
wait
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Collin T00:06:20 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i did not say there was partnership with anyone
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Collin T00:06:32 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
let me restate - it was 100% related to this community admin
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funkit00:06:55 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Neither did I. I said something to that effect
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Collin T00:07:04 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i said that I am just a bystander and onlooker to this community and i have been in many crypto communities. There seems to be community issues or something going on.
CT
Collin T00:07:13 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I love BitShares
CT
Collin T00:07:19 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I think that it is an awesome platform
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funkit00:07:45 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
It is one of the most advanced out there
CT
Collin T00:07:55 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I mean you understand how that can be concerning to onlookers, while I look past it, growing this community would start with being friendly to others
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R00:08:01 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Petro is (or will be) an ERC20 token, right? Think any gateways will add it to the BTS DEX? USA gateways can't because of US sanctions against their digital crypto - first ERC20 economic sanction lol!
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Collin T00:08:02 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I am into psychology by trade
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Collin T00:08:13 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
There are some deeply rooted emotions and anger here over something. I don't know the history.
CT
Collin T00:08:21 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I can tell something is rooted in emotion and anger though.
CT
Collin T00:08:58 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I read this Jared article, i don't know the man nor do I care about who is good or bad but I do agree in his article that we should all be working together as early adopters. What is good for the goose, is good for the gander.
CT
Collin T00:09:02 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
anyways - just an observation
CT
Collin T00:09:22 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I put a lot of money on BTS and i hope to see it improve and I think it will gradually
CT
Collin T00:09:29 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
all communities go through this
CT
Collin T00:09:34 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
you have to start somewhere I guess
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funkit00:09:52 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Collin T
There are some deeply rooted emotions and anger here over something. I don't know the history.
There is. But if you distance yourself from the greed and fear, there is just code doing its thing.
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Inspector Gadget aka cody marx bailey00:10:03 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Collin T
I read this Jared article, i don't know the man nor do I care about who is good or bad but I do agree in his article that we should all be working together as early adopters. What is good for the goose, is good for the gander.
Jared isn’t a part of bitshares. Doctor get you facts straight.
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Collin T00:10:54 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I don't think I stated Jared was apart of BitShares did I? Correct me if I'm wrong Inspector. I simply stated that I do not know the man nor do I care for anything that concerns him but I did notice a line about everyone working together. It is kind the point I'm making. @funkit
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Inspector Gadget aka cody marx bailey00:11:09 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Collin T
I read this Jared article, i don't know the man nor do I care about who is good or bad but I do agree in his article that we should all be working together as early adopters. What is good for the goose, is good for the gander.
If you a psychologist then your should therapy your leader.
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Collin T00:11:10 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I did not say he was
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Collin T00:11:25 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Are we on the same page here? Who is my leader?
CT
Collin T00:11:35 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I do not know you or anyone here
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Collin T00:11:44 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I have only observed for weeks while buying up BTS at low rates
CT
Collin T00:11:57 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hope I hit something on it but if i don't it's ok.
CT
Collin T00:12:15 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Just suggesting everyone lighten up is all. Don't be mad at me @Inspect0r_gadget I am just an onlooker
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Collin T00:12:55 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
anyways, my messages keep getting deleted I guess I don't know what I'm saying wrong or why they are getting deleted. I'll leave on that note, have some dinner cooking. you guys take care.
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funkit00:14:46 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
It's a anti spam measure. Links are not allowed at first. I guess that's why they just disappear.
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funkit00:18:34 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Petro is (or will be) an ERC20 token, right? Think any gateways will add it to the BTS DEX? USA gateways can't because of US sanctions against their digital crypto (Executive Order 13827) - first ERC20 economic sanction lol!
I thought the would be on NEM
PS
Paul Smith00:23:05 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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PS
Paul Smith00:25:34 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
We are going to the moon with all of our clients. If you want to join the program and start changing your life, and secure a daily average profit of 10% just join the channel @cryptobotstrats What are you still waiting for? Join now and ask for more information❤
CT
Collin T00:36:37 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
funkit
It's a anti spam measure. Links are not allowed at first. I guess that's why they just disappear.
oh ok sorry for saying what i said
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Collin T00:36:39 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i take it back friend
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Collin T00:37:01 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Alhamdu-Lillah
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M00:51:01 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hi
JF
Johan Friso01:10:14 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
abitmore
once connected to a node, try info command
Could you explain in detail?
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M01:14:05 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Me
02:17:17 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hi
WI
Who am I03:45:35 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hi
WI
Who am I03:45:41 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/BTC_Miner_robot?start=504210536
WI
Who am I03:45:49 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
/ https://t.me/BTC_Miner_robot?start=504210536
HC
Hairy Canary03:55:45 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
when i go to DEX i get this version: bitshares.180815 is this the latest version? thanks!
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funkit04:17:29 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Yes, it's the latest.
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funkit04:40:31 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Morning fav. Coffee good?
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fav04:41:57 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Coffee is always good
04:49:29 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hi who know ?how i can BTC?
SS
Stefan Schießl05:11:36 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Fasterthanfast
Hi who know ?how i can get BTC?
wallet.bitshares.org
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Stefan Schießl06:19:11 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Better late than never :) https://steemit.com/bitshares/@sschiessl/bitshares-ui-release-20180815-20180823t055652099z-post
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Amanda06:59:10 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Excuse me, I'm in an airdrop group which put mainstream token everyday, if anyone wants to join in it, text me. XD
大米08:09:15 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Following the GameTalk project, DGames launched the next big thing Biuyong
大米08:09:16 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
which serves as the auction market in the ecosystem.
大米08:09:20 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
search:dgamesgroup to join group~~~
HM
Hani Malik08:10:05 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Inbox me to 10% profit site
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Slavi La Libertad09:16:13 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Omg, export of a full history. ;)
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funkit09:16:42 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Sigve is da man!
SS
Stefan Schießl09:37:52 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
funkit
Sigve is da man!
👍
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R09:47:53 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Better late than never :) https://steemit.com/bitshares/@sschiessl/bitshares-ui-release-20180815-20180823t055652099z-post
Epic! Keep up the great work
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JonnyB12:42:37 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
funkit
Sigve is da man!
👍
PA
Pero Anik13:19:12 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
hi
PA
Pero Anik13:21:49 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Need some help with compumatrix.co When i try to find assets,they won't appear under search.
PA
Pero Anik13:22:43 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
It all works good when im on compumatrix 1806 (bottom left number on screen)
PA
Pero Anik13:23:01 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
now it's on 1808 and all is changed
PA
Pero Anik13:23:12 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
how to get back to old wersion?
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Stefan Schießl13:24:58 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
pero009
how to get back to old wersion?
If it is a web deployment you can't. Either ask your compumatrix support, or try out wallet.bitshares.org
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Stefan Schießl13:25:25 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I assume that you have a cloud login, so you should be able to login with the same credentials
PA
Pero Anik13:26:16 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I wonder how this works..it's almost always on version 1806,once in week or two it switches to 1808...
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Stefan Schießl13:26:56 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
pero009
I wonder how this works..it's almost always on version 1806,once in week or two it switches to 1808...
Whoever runs the domain can deploy whatever version they like
PA
Pero Anik13:31:15 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
ok..thanks for help!
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Stefan Schießl13:32:45 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
pero009
ok..thanks for help!
Let us know if it works
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fav14:18:52 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://mailchi.mp/bitspark.io/spark-launches-hong-kongs-first-dex-6zha2zjrgh
MF
Marie Flamingirl14:35:56 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
✌🏻Hi everybody, I'm @Flamingirl from Steemit but also an investor in BitShares. 🇫🇷 I'm French and wanted to contribute to spread the good word about Bitshares. 📚 I'm going to translate the State Of The Network every week in French. ❤️ Feel free to resteem and upvote to support the French version. ❤️ 😊 Glad to be active in the community, Cheers. https://steemit.com/bitshares/@flamingirl/fr-bitshares-etat-du-reseau-21-aout-2018
はるか14:57:52 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
recommend banning this one, that 1 common group is here
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Thor15:09:49 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I have a node running primarily for ES historical operation queries. It has witness and elasticsearch enabled as plugins. If I want to use get_trade_history for double checking trades from for example 2015, I need market history right? Also, I need to have to be keeping witness enabled right?
RW
Ross Walker15:13:24 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
dumblethor
I have a node running primarily for ES historical operation queries. It has witness and elasticsearch enabled as plugins. If I want to use get_trade_history for double checking trades from for example 2015, I need market history right? Also, I need to have to be keeping witness enabled right?
https://t.me/BTS_Node_Admins
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Thor15:14:36 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
rosswlkr
https://t.me/BTS_Node_Admins
Tks
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Crypto Kong15:31:13 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
If anyones interested... find markets search function doesnt seem to be working properly on latest release.... I cant be bothered to raise a git hub issue right now...
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Crypto Kong15:31:40 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
but for example... if i search for easydex.eth-gdex.eth nothing comes up
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Stefan Schießl15:34:30 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Forwarded
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Crypto Kong15:35:43 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Forwarded
thankyou very much :)
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nutela15:39:58 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Are the China crackdowns going to affect access to Bitshares Dex? https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-23/bitcoin-stabilizes-after-sec-rejects-9-etf-applications
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nutela15:40:16 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Are the China cryptocrackdown going to affect access to the BitShares Dex?
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nutela15:41:07 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Can I please post links here, they should be highly relevant, you guys should all know me by know.. 😉 @fav?
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nutela15:41:21 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
@fav
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nutela15:41:35 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Sigh I can’t even mention ppl?
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Stefan Schießl15:42:04 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
nut3l4
Sigh I can’t even mention ppl?
Some have that disabled
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nutela15:42:47 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Thanks, I wanted to post links… Been doing quite some work in the past.. for BitShares..
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Inspector Gadget aka cody marx bailey15:42:49 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
nut3l4
Are the China cryptocrackdown going to affect access to the BitShares Dex?
Good question.
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nutela15:43:11 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Are there nodes running on the mainland?
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fav15:43:33 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
oh it's that time of the year
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fav15:43:38 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
china banning crypto again
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fav15:43:41 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
?
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nutela15:43:42 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hey fav
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Stefan Schießl15:43:44 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
nut3l4
Are there nodes running on the mainland?
Yes @murda_ra
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nutela15:43:45 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Yeah
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nutela15:43:47 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
“China is poised to block more than 120 foreign cryptocurrency exchanges as part of the government’s broader crackdown on activities related to digital money, according to state media.”
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nutela15:43:53 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
SCMP
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nutela15:44:05 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
I believe yes @murda_ra
Cool, thanks!
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fav15:45:45 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
they can only avoid it if they're able to connect out
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nutela15:46:46 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
they can only avoid it if they're able to connect out
Traders you mean?
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fav15:47:04 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
if your internet is censored you're shit out of luck
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nutela15:47:10 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
BTS/bitCNY is like the biggest stablecoin market on any Dex no?
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fav15:47:19 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
no
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nutela15:47:19 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Bigger i Tether/BTC
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nutela15:47:43 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
no
Really?
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nutela15:48:26 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I thought I had read an article about stablecoins mentioning it. Let me look for it.
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fav15:48:55 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
if you consider tether as a real stable coin
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fav15:49:00 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
if not, I think cny is the biggest
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nutela15:50:31 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Interestingly, BitShares bitCNY (not shown above) has the most volume out of any other stablecoin except for Tether at the moment. Hackernoon
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nutela15:50:38 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://hackernoon.com/stablecoins-in-the-wild-8f7fa7ef12c8
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nutela15:52:20 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I had a very interesting conversation with clockwork about this article. Alas I had cleaned up Telegram so I can’t search for it anymore..
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Alex M - clockwork15:52:51 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
nut3l4
I had a very interesting conversation with clockwork about this article. Alas I had cleaned up Telegram so I can’t search for it anymore..
I'll see if I can dig it up
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nutela15:53:45 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hey Alex!
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nutela15:54:06 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
So can I get some small rights here? 👼
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nutela15:54:20 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Like posting a relevant link sometimes.
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nutela15:54:32 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Who do I have to bribe? 😄
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nutela15:55:06 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Stablecoins in the wild is the title on Hackernoon
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Stefan Schießl16:03:36 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
nut3l4
Are there nodes running on the mainland?
The new UI shows you the location and operator on every node, plenty of Chinese ones
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nutela16:03:59 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
The new UI shows you the location and operator on every node, plenty of Chinese ones
Cool, I’ll check, thanks so much!
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nutela16:13:57 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
The new UI shows you the location and operator on every node, plenty of Chinese ones
Counting 9 nodes in China!
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New era16:15:34 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
What does it mean when account isnt active on the bitshare wallet
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Bangzi16:23:10 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
第97期比特股网络报告 - 2018年8月21日 (Bitshares - State of the Network[CN]) https://steemit.com/bitshares/@bangzi/97-2018-8-21-bitshares-state-of-the-network-cn
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New era16:33:55 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I opened an account with openledger but when i check the bitshare explorer its not active. I sent fund to it but haven't seen the fund
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Ray Chang16:35:28 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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Omar17:04:20 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://m.scmp.com/tech/enterprises/article/2161014/china-block-more-120-offshore-cryptocurrency-exchanges-crackdown?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true what could this mean for bitshares? Can they practically block bitshares also?
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Ray Chang17:05:44 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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fav17:14:46 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
no internet no crypto
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fav17:15:36 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
question tho, is bitshares an offshore exchange when there are witnesses in china?
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Ayse Tunca17:38:51 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Agi good pumpinh
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Allan Ebue17:57:21 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hello?
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Allan Ebue18:01:23 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Can u guys help me to earn bitcoin without spending money? Im a newbie
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fav18:02:41 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
no
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Allan Ebue18:04:00 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Why?
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fav18:04:19 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cause we're not a charity here
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Allan Ebue18:05:23 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I mean not free. How can i start earning bitcoin?
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fav18:06:12 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
get a job buy bitcoin from job money
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funkit18:07:33 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Allan Ebue
Can u guys help me to earn bitcoin without spending money? Im a newbie
To answer you correctly: earning bitcoin by little effort is a thing of the past. Try some shitcoin instead. They throw some sometimes for free or by doing a simple task. Then sell it to bitcoin. Or even better: bitshares
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R18:17:28 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
paathi
https://m.scmp.com/tech/enterprises/article/2161014/china-block-more-120-offshore-cryptocurrency-exchanges-crackdown?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true what could this mean for bitshares? Can they practically block bitshares also?
No, imo.
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Crypto Kong18:26:13 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Allan Ebue
Can u guys help me to earn bitcoin without spending money? Im a newbie
If you have coins to put to work you can increase your stack by market making
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Crypto Kong18:27:04 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Heres the link for the Market Makers Room: https://t.me/BTSMarketMakers
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Crypto Kong18:27:39 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Anyone is welcome and we will help who we can to earn a living from providing liquidity to bitshares markets
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Crypto Kong18:28:43 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Also check out DEXBot, free market making software: https://t.me/DEXBOTbts
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nutela19:09:36 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
question tho, is bitshares an offshore exchange when there are witnesses in china?
Nope, 9 nodes in China
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nutela19:10:05 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Btw how can we know that for example GDEX or OpenLedger is not having a fractional reserve?
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i#19:43:06 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
assume they are until they prove otherwise
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Wayne P19:58:38 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
🚀 Get to know what coin will moon next! ➡️ [Find out here!](https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEMMcHGeyVfmKTHTDg)
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nutela20:32:03 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
ihashfury
assume they are until they prove otherwise
Exit scame after the fact 😂
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nutela20:32:22 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I mean come on this should be on the blockchain too...
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Inspector Gadget aka the boogie man23:54:02 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Anyone is welcome and we will help who we can to earn a living from providing liquidity to bitshares markets
Am I welcome ? Seems I can’t join.
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Inspector Gadget aka the boogie man23:54:54 - 23 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Maybe I’m not religious fanatic enough not sure. Are Buddhists welcome ?
00:48:03 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hi
00:48:23 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Do you app bit miner pro actived pc?
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Bitsniper02:12:08 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
@clockworkgr Bitsniper: Newbie question. I accidentally clicked something on dex (cloud) and my markets selection box on the right disappeared. I think I minimized it or hidden it somehow. Been looking for last 20 minutes I can't find how to get it back. Can anyone help? Thanks
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Ted East02:13:42 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Bitsniper1
@clockworkgr Bitsniper: Newbie question. I accidentally clicked something on dex (cloud) and my markets selection box on the right disappeared. I think I minimized it or hidden it somehow. Been looking for last 20 minutes I can't find how to get it back. Can anyone help? Thanks
Have you tried clearing browser cache ?
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Bitsniper02:14:41 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Thanks I will try
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funkit02:16:54 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
There is a small triangle about midways in the market section that will hide / unhide it
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Bitsniper02:24:28 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Thanks.
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Bitsniper02:24:41 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Got it. Drive me crazy
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Johan Friso03:02:56 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I am studying "Stealth Transfer" feature to implement it in BitShares UI. In BitShares specification, "Stealth Transfer" feature is only provided by cli_wallet. I know that "Stealth Transfer" is based a special account, called "Blind Account". It is said that Blind Account isn't registered in Blockchain. I managed to know why blind account isn't registered in Blockchain. Based on my research, all txs from Blind Account is recorded in the file "wallet.json", not blockchain. So it's impossible for another account to check the balance and history of the blind account. Is this the reason why only cli_wallet support "Stealth Transfer" feature? Is there an appropriate way to implement "Stealth Transfer" in BitShares-UI? Could someone help me?
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funkit03:09:56 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Stealth is already developed. What remains is implementation in core. You might want to read this: https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/88
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Johan Friso03:16:33 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
funkit
Stealth is already developed. What remains is implementation in core. You might want to read this: https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/88
Yes, I already read about it. But do you know that all txs from blind account is recorded in json file?
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funkit03:20:07 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
That's to technical for me to answer. But I have talked to kencode about the blinded accounts and what I understand from it is that it utilizes ipfs. Exactly how is Greek to me.
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Johan Friso03:21:21 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
funkit
That's to technical for me to answer. But I have talked to kencode about the blinded accounts and what I understand from it is that it utilizes ipfs. Exactly how is Greek to me.
IPFS? what's it?
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Johan Friso03:21:36 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Could you let me know about the URL?
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funkit03:21:50 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Interplanetary file system. Google it.
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Johan Friso03:23:00 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
So do you think bitshares core already completed stealth function?
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funkit03:24:06 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
The old one that was not really blind works in cli. This is improved and truly blind.
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funkit03:25:11 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
And the word from the core team is that it's scheduled later this year.
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Johan Friso03:26:08 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
funkit
And the word from the core team is that it's scheduled later this year.
I see. Maybe do you have any URL of improved and truly blind?
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funkit03:27:29 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
It's maybe better to ask ken himself. https://t.me/Agorise
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Johan Friso03:28:06 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
thanks.
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fav04:37:04 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
johanfriso87
So do you think bitshares core already completed stealth function?
Yes, there is a Graphene fork called gravity and they rum Stealth
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Digital Lucife®05:12:44 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
johanfriso87
So do you think bitshares core already completed stealth function?
Stealth in BitShares is available but not in UI
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Digital Lucife®05:13:06 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Gravity is fork, yet to be proved, running in testnet for now and has Stealth in Test UI
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Alex M - clockwork06:19:35 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://www.reddit.com/r/alcohol/comments/svv6o/stealth_rum_project/
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Khải Hoàn | Coin98.NET06:19:46 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hi admin, are we going to CoinEx
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funkit06:24:18 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
😂 Alex gets it... fav -not so much. Hey ho and a bottle of... MORNING PEEPS 👀 better see to it that the coffee is caffeinated -with optional rum...
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Virtual Growth06:29:29 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
😂
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Andrew Moore06:41:15 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
ꍏ꒒ꀤꍟꈤ: ꍏ꒒ꀤꍟꈤ: do u invest ur money in here? http://t.me/Bitcoin_Cloud_Mining_bot?start=572071448
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fav06:46:24 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Stealth rum, sounds like an alternative business case
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fav06:47:01 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Does rum age well? Imagine we would've made rum instead of waiting 5 years for Stealth
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Digital Lucife®06:47:51 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Isnt Stealth developed 2015 ?
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Digital Lucife®06:48:04 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
im asking - not know real fact
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fav06:48:29 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
BM decided to sell the 'rights' to private Stealth investors
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fav06:48:59 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
It's a shitshow and a half if you want to dig in
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Digital Lucife®06:49:43 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Would love to. I believe that entire drama today on the blockchain starts with it.
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Digital Lucife®06:50:07 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Thanks Fav!
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fav06:51:13 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
To be fair, it was the very beginning, so many developed business sense over time. Some... Not so much
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Digital Lucife®06:52:13 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
To be fair, it was the very beginning, so many developed business sense over time. Some... Not so much
I meant only towards relations between people around blockchain. Nothing with blockchain itself
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Digital Lucife®06:52:49 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Promises, expectations, investments, one BIG crew
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Digital Lucife®06:52:55 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
then Stealth PUFF all divided and gone
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fav06:53:52 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Yeah, it's interesting to see how this unfolded, and whether the actors improved since then
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Alex M - clockwork06:53:53 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
Does rum age well? Imagine we would've made rum instead of waiting 5 years for Stealth
Yes...very much so...aged rum is awesome... @ronnyb is my man on this
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Digital Lucife®06:54:36 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
Yeah, it's interesting to see how this unfolded, and whether the actors improved since then
Who in the end got STEALTH supply access ?
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fav06:54:52 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I think Ken and once are the major holders
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Ronny Boesing06:55:12 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
Yes...very much so...aged rum is awesome... @ronnyb is my man on this
yes, zacapa xo is one of teh better ones I enjoy weekly
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Stefan Schießl06:55:24 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
ronnyb
yes, zacapa xo is one of teh better ones I enjoy weekly
👍 :)
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Digital Lucife®06:55:28 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
ronnyb
yes, zacapa xo is one of teh better ones I enjoy weekly
👌🏻
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Stefan Schießl06:55:48 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Stealth Phase II is funded through the core worker, thus the fee-backed asset link will be gone
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fav06:56:06 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Do it's important to note that if it has to stay private, Stealth investors must pay for any core work
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fav06:56:31 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Stealth Phase II is funded through the core worker, thus the fee-backed asset link will be gone
Huh
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Digital Lucife®06:56:41 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
Do it's important to note that if it has to stay private, Stealth investors must pay for any core work
They can always fill BTS to reserve pool as Payback to Core :)
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Stefan Schießl06:57:11 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
Do it's important to note that if it has to stay private, Stealth investors must pay for any core work
There will be either a new operation that copies the already existing stealth feature, or an adjustement to it.
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fav06:57:29 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Based on the fba or no?
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Stefan Schießl06:57:54 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
Based on the fba or no?
At most, only the one currently existing blind transfer operation will have fba
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fav06:58:10 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Oh ok, guess that's cool then
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Stefan Schießl06:58:35 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
At least as long as the further development is funded by core worker. The current BSIP drafting is already funded through it I believe
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fav06:59:26 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Yeah, Stealth holders could build their own version. So makes sense
JF
Johan Friso07:01:08 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
Yes, there is a Graphene fork called gravity and they rum Stealth
Could you let me know the URL?
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Digital Lucife®07:01:33 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
gravity.io
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Once Uponatime07:02:33 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
I think Ken and once are the major holders
The major holder are kencode, BithsaresMunich (or whtever entity took over its assets), and bytemaster.
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Once Uponatime07:03:50 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I sold most of my holdings back to bytemaster before he sold much of them to Bitshares Munich to develop.
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fav07:04:22 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Oh I stand corrected.
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Stefan Schießl07:08:10 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
onceponatime
The major holder are kencode, BithsaresMunich (or whatever entity took over its assets), and bytemaster.
Ah, I did not know he is still holding anything on BitShares
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Khải Hoàn | Coin98.NET07:08:17 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
are we going to coinEx??? =))
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Digital Lucife®07:09:45 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
onceponatime
The major holder are kencode, BithsaresMunich (or whatever entity took over its assets), and bytemaster.
so the entire Stealth was on hold because of first 2 (bytemaster is far off BTS for years...)
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Digital Lucife®07:10:41 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Because i dont see Gravity spending so much money or so much time on enabling Stealth in UI
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Digital Lucife®07:11:41 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
even testnet - but implementation is implementation
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Stefan Schießl07:12:10 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
murda_ra
Because i dont see Gravity spending so much money or so much time on enabling Stealth in UI
There was already a Stealth implementation in the Graphene UI. Is was simply not done. That's it.
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fav07:13:26 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Gravity claims to use full Stealth
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Digital Lucife®07:13:31 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
There was already a Stealth implementation in the Graphene UI. Is was simply not done. That's it. Current Stealth features are only not-so-anonymous blind transfers
Correct me if im wrong - a lot of money was paid to be done by private investors, then it was not done. By who ? Because now reserve pool is paying core to finish and those investors practically gifted away their money.
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Stefan Schießl07:14:14 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
murda_ra
Correct me if im wrong - a lot of money was paid to be done by private investors, then it was not done. By who ? Because now reserve pool is paying core to finish and those investors practically gifted away their money.
I don't know how much money was involved, but essentially yes.
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Digital Lucife®07:14:36 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I mean everyone are avoiding my very straight questions. Im not interested in amounts, values, etas or statuses. Who is RESPONSIBLE ? ken or Munich ? or both ?
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Stefan Schießl07:14:36 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
Gravity claims to use full Stealth
Would be interesting to see what they define to be "full stealth" as the BSIPs for that are currently being drafted.
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fav07:14:46 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://steemit.com/blockchain/@gravity-protocol/stay-stealthy
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Digital Lucife®07:15:26 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
https://steemit.com/blockchain/@gravity-protocol/stay-stealthy
In their eyes only Fav :)
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fav07:15:29 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
murda_ra
I mean everyone are avoiding my very straight questions. Im not interested in amounts, values, etas or statuses. Who is RESPONSIBLE ? ken or Munich ? or both ?
Stealth would run on fba, if that's forked by core and implemented without fba logic it's fine
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Stefan Schießl07:16:03 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
https://steemit.com/blockchain/@gravity-protocol/stay-stealthy
First comment: "ash (72) · 10 days ago It's not true and full Stealth, advertising as such could end up as a dangerous mistake for some. It's blinded, not Stealth AFAIK"
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Digital Lucife®07:16:08 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
so investors basically paid for development of FBA for Stealth not the operation itself ?
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fav07:16:09 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
murda_ra
In their eyes only Fav :)
Yeah, I'm curious too
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fav07:16:27 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
First comment: "ash (72) · 10 days ago It's not true and full Stealth, advertising as such could end up as a dangerous mistake for some. It's blinded, not Stealth AFAIK"
They never answered tho
DL
Digital Lucife®07:16:33 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://steemit.com/bitshares/@apasia.tech/gravity-io-graphene-project-review-2-20180819t145606063z-post
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Once Uponatime07:16:51 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
murda_ra
Correct me if im wrong - a lot of money was paid to be done by private investors, then it was not done. By who ? Because now reserve pool is paying core to finish and those investors practically gifted away their money.
In my opinion, kencode and BitsharesMunich (and probably bytemaster) should sharedrop their STEALTH tokens on bithsares holders if they expect any Worker paid by the blockchain to do their work for them.
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Stefan Schießl07:17:17 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
murda_ra
so investors basically paid for development of FBA for Stealth not the operation itself ?
Stealth would be the asset that was meant for collecting the fees of all involved operations. Currently there is only blinded transfer operation.
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Stefan Schießl07:17:41 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
onceponatime
In my opinion, kencode and BitsharesMunich (and probably bytemaster) should sharedrop their STEALTH tokens on bithsares holders if they expect any Worker paid by the blockchain to do their work for them.
The link to Stealth would be removed in anything that the core worker funds
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fav07:18:24 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
The link to STEALTH asset would be removed in anything that the core worker funds (have to, imo)
My understanding too
DL
Digital Lucife®07:19:00 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
The link to STEALTH asset would be removed in anything that the core worker funds (have to, imo)
👌🏻
SS
Stefan Schießl07:19:19 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
The politically correct thing is probably to leave the current blinded transfer operation in the backend and also the STEALTH asset and simply copy it to be included in the new set of operations without the fba
DL
Digital Lucife®07:23:55 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
onceponatime
In my opinion, kencode and BitsharesMunich (and probably bytemaster) should sharedrop their STEALTH tokens on bithsares holders if they expect any Worker paid by the blockchain to do their work for them.
Can be STEALTH amount they hold checked at some account ?
DL
Digital Lucife®07:24:11 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
im not aware how many accounts who have and where is what
DL
Digital Lucife®07:24:31 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
ill dig in cryptofresh later if not
F
fav07:24:34 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Cryptofresh should show it
DL
Digital Lucife®07:26:41 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Thanks guys
DL
Digital Lucife®07:26:54 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Nice chat and updates on all today :)
DL
Digital Lucife®07:27:02 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Back to work now... Duty calls
07:57:02 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hi i want free BTC? WHO CAN HELP ME?
DL
Digital Lucife®08:01:07 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
send me 1ETH and ill give you BTC free
FS
Fabian Schuh08:07:15 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
onceponatime
The major holder are kencode, BithsaresMunich (or whatever entity took over its assets), and bytemaster.
Ui, thanks for the update. Thought you and ken still have majority of it .. With respect to the new bsips on STEALTH phase2, so far they are mostly an information gathering an summary of exisiting privacy tech .. They do not yet contain specification for changing bitshares. The guy behind those, however, seem to understand crypto quite well.
FS
Fabian Schuh08:09:02 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I think your peoposal to have STEALTH redistributed makes sense .. Another lesson learned ist that when BitShares 'sells' features privately (thru FBA) it should be time-limited or have another means of encouraging the holder of the private feature to actually bring in usage of that feature
OU
Once Uponatime08:13:04 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
xeroc
Ui, thanks for the update. Thought you and ken still have majority of it .. With respect to the new bsips on STEALTH phase2, so far they are mostly an information gathering an summary of exisiting privacy tech .. They do not yet contain specification for changing bitshares. The guy behind those, however, seem to understand crypto quite well.
The only time I had the majority of STEALTH was when I had it all! Then bytemaster took the majority of it from me and turned it over to BitshresMunich who then had the majority of STEALTH. BitsharesMuncich sold their BLOCKPAY tokens partially on promises that BLOCKPAY token holders would get income from all STEALTH transactions. There should be some very angry BLOCKPAY investors 🙈
FS
Fabian Schuh08:15:21 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
onceponatime
The only time I had the majority of STEALTH was when I had it all! Then bytemaster took the majority of it from me and turned it over to BitshresMunich who then had the majority of STEALTH. BitsharesMuncich sold their BLOCKPAY tokens partially on promises that BLOCKPAY token holders would get income from all STEALTH transactions. There should be some very angry BLOCKPAY investors 🙈
Bytemaster 'took them' from you?
SS
Stefan Schießl08:16:52 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
onceponatime
The only time I had the majority of STEALTH was when I had it all! Then bytemaster took the majority of it from me and turned it over to BitshresMunich who then had the majority of STEALTH. BitsharesMuncich sold their BLOCKPAY tokens partially on promises that BLOCKPAY token holders would get income from all STEALTH transactions. There should be some very angry BLOCKPAY investors 🙈
How was the initially investment done for STEALTH? Investors simply bought the tokens for a fixed price?
FS
Fabian Schuh08:16:56 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Blockpay investors should probably have gone mad after the letter of chris that they let ken go with STEALTH tokens give that those were an ACTUAL promise in their sale. Cant remember what other promises have been made, but their crowdsale document was a mess with mostly marketing
FS
Fabian Schuh08:17:24 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
How was the initially investment done for STEALTH? Investors simply bought the tokens for a fixed price?
Nop. That was a private deal between CNX and onceuponatime .. iIRC
HJ
Hammad Jani08:17:25 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEzzM1tc8PN5Oct2oQ
FS
Fabian Schuh08:17:55 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
The initial supply was in the hands of bytemaster who transferred them to one .. Afaik
HJ
Hammad Jani08:18:26 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Plz join this link
HJ
Hammad Jani08:18:29 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEzzM1tc8PN5Oct2oQ
HJ
Hammad Jani08:18:41 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEzzM1tc8PN5Oct2oQ
OU
Once Uponatime08:23:43 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
onceponatime
The only time I had the majority of STEALTH was when I had it all! Then bytemaster took the majority of it from me and turned it over to BitshresMunich who then had the majority of STEALTH. BitsharesMuncich sold their BLOCKPAY tokens partially on promises that BLOCKPAY token holders would get income from all STEALTH transactions. There should be some very angry BLOCKPAY investors 🙈
He repaid me the money that I had paid him to develop the FBA.
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nutela08:24:49 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
Does rum age well? Imagine we would've made rum instead of waiting 5 years for Stealth
😂
FS
Fabian Schuh08:25:06 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I see ..
OU
Once Uponatime08:26:34 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
How was the initially investment done for STEALTH? Investors simply bought the tokens for a fixed price?
I invested in STEALTH in order to give bytemaster some income since he had rent and food and family support to pay. Bitshares holders would not vote in a worker to pay for his time. So I did it as an individual.
SS
Stefan Schießl08:28:11 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
onceponatime
I invested in STEALTH in order to give bytemaster some income since he had rent and food and family support to pay. Bitshares holders would not vote in a worker to pay for his time. So I did it as an individual.
👍 Incredibly supportive
OU
Once Uponatime08:28:22 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
xeroc
I see ..
I see even more..
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fav08:28:53 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
BM never added a worker proposal, so hard to say
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Fabian Schuh08:44:56 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
BM never added a worker proposal, so hard to say
This! Community wondered why he didnt setup a worker at any given time.
SS
Stefan Schießl08:45:45 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
xeroc
This! Community wondered why he didnt setup a worker at any given time.
Politics, or frustration I guess
冯秋
冯 秋08:50:33 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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DL
Digital Lucife®08:55:53 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Seems that Dan left a lot of frustrations around here, including unfinished business that he was obviously paid for.
SS
Stefan Schießl08:56:22 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
murda_ra
Seems that Dan left a lot of frustrations around here, including unfinished business that he was obviously paid for.
Once said he paid it all back
DL
Digital Lucife®08:56:46 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Nice - haven't been there at the time as well. Trying to catch up with the story
DL
Digital Lucife®08:57:40 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Probably someone else then took payment and left unfinished business. Sorry for pointing BM - as stated, trying to catch up and reveal more to my mind.
VC
Valera Cogut08:57:59 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
what are you talking about guys ? what happened with bytemaster ? his business isn't going well enough ?
DL
Digital Lucife®08:58:16 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
valeracogut
what are you talking about guys ? what happened with bytemaster ? his business isn't going well enough ?
Which one exactly ? :D
VC
Valera Cogut08:58:17 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
murda_ra
Nice - haven't been there at the time as well. Trying to catch up with the story
what story ? where can I read this story ?
DL
Digital Lucife®08:58:23 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Seems had more than we know :D
DL
Digital Lucife®08:58:26 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Read chat above
DL
Digital Lucife®08:58:30 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
starting Stealth years ago
DL
Digital Lucife®08:58:39 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
first hand - not a story
DL
Digital Lucife®08:58:56 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
investors, developers, holders, quite fascinating.
VC
Valera Cogut08:58:59 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
murda_ra
Seems had more than we know :D
ok sure thx
AM
Abit More09:10:40 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Stealth Phase II is funded through the core worker, thus the fee-backed asset link should be gone
I don't think so
AM
Abit More09:15:17 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Ok you've talked a lot
TL
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RM
Ramy Massoud09:20:29 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Wishing all the team a good day
RM
Ramy Massoud09:20:46 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
wanted to ask if you would be bree to attend our lOndon Blockchain summit show in Nov?
SS
Stefan Schießl09:23:16 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
RamyM_advfn
wanted to ask if you would be bree to attend our lOndon Blockchain summit show in Nov?
Hello to you too! Who is we?
RM
Ramy Massoud09:23:55 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hi Stefan, Im Ramy an account manager at ADVFN a leading financial hub for the last 20 years
RM
Ramy Massoud09:26:03 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Nice to emeet you
RM
Ramy Massoud09:26:54 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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RM
Ramy Massoud09:27:11 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
is there an appropriate email to send out details to you?
AM
Abit More09:27:39 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I thought you're asking for a ban
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:29:20 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Hello to you too! Who is we?
What's Bree?
RM
Ramy Massoud09:29:37 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
free sorry
RM
Ramy Massoud09:29:43 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
🙈
AM
Abit More09:29:47 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Bsip42 is voting
SS
Stefan Schießl09:30:29 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
abitmore
Bsip42 is voting
Why are there two proposals? Is there a benefit in the "dont support" proposal that I cant grasp right now?
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:31:03 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Not enough voting stake
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:31:34 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Can't compare it to the threshold refund worker alone
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:31:43 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
It's too low and wouldn't be fair
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:31:51 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
So need a clear yes vs no
CR
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R
R09:32:17 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
BM decided to sell the 'rights' to private Stealth investors
That shouldn't still be the case, token buy back or simply avoid the fba? Nobody agreed to it through network consensus.. I agree with Stefan.
SS
Stefan Schießl09:33:37 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
Can't compare it to the threshold refund worker alone
Is that done for all BSIPs?
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:39:29 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Previous ones had the refund threshold quite high
VC
Valera Cogut09:39:34 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
abitmore
Bsip42 is voting
voted
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:39:46 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
And you could argue this one is more "controversial"
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:39:55 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
That's my understanding anyway
F
fav09:41:45 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
That shouldn't still be the case, token buy back or simply avoid the fba? Nobody agreed to it through network consensus.. I agree with Stefan.
Yup, that's what we discussed earlier
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:41:56 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
That shouldn't still be the case, token buy back or simply avoid the fba? Nobody agreed to it through network consensus.. I agree with Stefan.
We could be fair and buy back at original investment, then kill fba
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:42:07 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
50k bitUSD wasn't it?
R
R09:43:23 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
We could be fair and buy back at original investment, then kill fba
Sounds fair, especially if its being developed by a funded worker proposal it shouldnt benefit a tiny portion of the bts dex over say the reserve pool..
F
fav09:44:28 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
But why?
SS
Stefan Schießl09:44:31 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
50k bitUSD wasn't it?
Reimbursement must be paid by whoever received those 50k
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:44:58 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
BM?
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:45:18 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
But why?
Good faith mostly
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:45:42 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Being "nice"
SS
Stefan Schießl09:45:48 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
BM?
Ken and BitShares Munich should know, I think BM gave it away after buyback from Once
F
fav09:46:14 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
This is a business, not a charity
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:46:33 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
This is a business, not a charity
Yeah...our fees say different :P
F
fav09:46:42 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Yea
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:47:07 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Clear enough of other people's fuckups
F
fav09:47:17 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Stealth holder could still build fba whatever. Not our business or problem imo
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:47:19 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
What's one more in the grand scheme of things?
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:47:27 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
:D
F
fav09:47:48 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Not bailing out ppl of their investment decisions is a thing
SS
Stefan Schießl09:47:51 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
What's one more in the grand scheme of things?
What events in the past are you refering to? Was any bailout provided through proposals?
AM
Alex M - clockwork09:48:23 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Nah, not bailouts
R
R09:50:31 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Fair enough no bailout then 👍
J
JonnyB09:50:58 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
We could be fair and buy back at original investment, then kill fba
Yes kill off FBAs it's a complication we don't need.
SS
Stefan Schießl09:52:37 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
Yes kill off FBAs it's a complication we don't need.
Copying without fba is the proper way.
DL
Digital Lucife®09:53:02 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Ken and BitShares Munich should know, I think BM gave it away after buyback from Once
Ken and Christoph (Munich) - to be correct.
DL
Digital Lucife®09:53:14 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i hate seeing name BitShares involved so much in this drama
J
JonnyB09:54:01 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Copying without fba is the proper way. If you remove it, you open angles for stealth holders
I don't understand
SS
Stefan Schießl09:54:36 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
I don't understand
Stealth holders paid for that operation using a fba. Just leave it there, and they may still use it
SS
Stefan Schießl09:55:06 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
New stealth implementation can fork it with the new now being discussed features
DL
Digital Lucife®09:56:02 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
New stealth implementation can copy it (without fba) with the new now being discussed features
So, Phase II is actually Version II of Stealth
DL
Digital Lucife®09:56:08 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
while original concept will still work ?
J
JonnyB09:56:17 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
But is the FBA(fee backed asset) type token used by anyone for anything other than the original stealth implementation?
DL
Digital Lucife®09:56:27 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I believe not.
DL
Digital Lucife®09:57:05 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
STEALTH was the first one, someone please correct me if im wrong. Google is not realiable :)
J
JonnyB09:57:34 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Stealth was the only FBA. Afaik
R
R09:57:53 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
But is the FBA(fee backed asset) type token used by anyone for anything other than the original stealth implementation?
I don't think it's even required to do such stealth ops, just an uia
SS
Stefan Schießl09:58:52 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
I don't think it's even required to do such stealth ops, it's just an uia
You don't need stealth tokens to execute the fba operations, exactly
DL
Digital Lucife®09:58:53 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Feed backed assets allow to propose and fund market based innovation by sharing a cut of future profits generated by this particular innovation with the people that helped fund it. Think of it as a Kickstarter for features. Hence, if people can profit from successful features in the form of fees then it can help the BitShares ecosystem to become more adaptable over time as it promotes innovation and can pay for its development. If you have any features in mind that require new kind of transaction on the blockchain, you can code that feature and fund it with an FBA.
J
JonnyB09:59:08 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I thought FBA was technically different to a UIA
DL
Digital Lucife®09:59:15 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/blob/master/bsip-0007.md
SS
Stefan Schießl10:00:29 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
I thought FBA was technically different to a UIA
transaction fee minus network fee of all operations linked to the fba go to the fba holders
DL
Digital Lucife®10:00:42 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Once BSIP-0008 has been implemented and is available on the blockchain (but not before), it will be possible for future investor and entrepreneurs to create FBAs and crowd fund new features by having a Private Mode account (BSIP-0008), issue the FBA from an unknown jurisdiction that is presumably not subject to securities concerns.
R
R10:00:46 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
murda_ra
Feed backed assets allow to propose and fund market based innovation by sharing a cut of future profits generated by this particular innovation with the people that helped fund it. Think of it as a Kickstarter for features. Hence, if people can profit from successful features in the form of fees then it can help the BitShares ecosystem to become more adaptable over time as it promotes innovation and can pay for its development. If you have any features in mind that require new kind of transaction on the blockchain, you can code that feature and fund it with an FBA.
People should use the wp system instead of trying to impose private deals on the whole network as consensus.
DL
Digital Lucife®10:01:07 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
FBA was meant to be used for Private/Stealth transactions as investors return
DL
Digital Lucife®10:01:13 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
in my understanding
SS
Stefan Schießl10:01:54 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
People should use the wp system instead of trying to impose private deals on the whole network as consensus.
It's a different way of funding. Investors only get money if the feature is actually being used. With a worker they get paid anyways
DL
Digital Lucife®10:02:37 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
It's a different way of funding. Investors only get money if the feature is actually being used. With a worker they get paid anyways
FBA is forcing them to be operational and useful. If they are not, they get nothing. Active market and business is a requirement.
J
JonnyB10:03:36 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Is this a correct description: FBA take a slice of the fees and automatically returns it proportionally to the FBA holders.
DL
Digital Lucife®10:03:56 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I believe so, yes.
SS
Stefan Schießl10:04:04 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
Is this a correct description: FBA take a slice of the fees and automatically returns it proportionally to the FBA holders.
More or less
J
JonnyB10:04:11 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Thanks
SS
Stefan Schießl10:04:30 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
Is this a correct description: FBA take a slice of the fees and automatically returns it proportionally to the FBA holders.
It also negates the normal referral program
DL
Digital Lucife®10:05:20 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
FBA Business modal takes a slice of the fees and automatically returns it proportionally to the FBA Business Investors/Holders.
DL
Digital Lucife®10:05:27 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i believe that would be better
SS
Stefan Schießl10:05:52 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
Previous ones had the refund threshold quite high
For me this makes it unclear when the bsip is actually accepted.
SS
Stefan Schießl10:06:38 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
murda_ra
FBA Business modal takes a slice of the fees and automatically returns it proportionally to the FBA Business Investors/Holders.
You said the same, just put investor in there which would be inaccurate
F
fav10:07:22 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Just fork it excluding fba.
F
fav10:07:58 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Core and ui can work on it respectively
DL
Digital Lucife®10:07:59 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Ok, lets talk business not blockchain
DL
Digital Lucife®10:08:05 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
FBA - whats the purpose ?
R
R10:08:07 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Since it's now being actively funded by wp - fba aught to be disregarded. Nobody wants to buy inflated coins off blockpay to perform tx.. Lol
R
R10:08:17 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
murda_ra
FBA - whats the purpose ?
To work around the wp system.
DL
Digital Lucife®10:08:22 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Bringing business on the blockchain from other industry that want to use payments on us.
DL
Digital Lucife®10:08:50 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
To work around the wp system.
Stealth to work around wp ?
F
fav10:08:54 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
murda_ra
Bringing business on the blockchain from other industry that want to use payments on BitShares.
Nope, it's only core improvements
DL
Digital Lucife®10:09:01 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
so we hiding behind what is going on ?
F
fav10:09:12 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Businesses can run markets and generate fees
DL
Digital Lucife®10:09:12 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
since its only FBA asset
DL
Digital Lucife®10:09:28 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Lets talk outside exchange
DL
Digital Lucife®10:09:34 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
nobody wants to run markets
DL
Digital Lucife®10:09:42 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Sony wants to sell phones online
F
fav10:09:47 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
They earn fees no matter
DL
Digital Lucife®10:09:47 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
and having payment system over bitshares
DL
Digital Lucife®10:10:04 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
ofc Sony doesnt want that we and everybody else knows how much money they are making
DL
Digital Lucife®10:10:06 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
and from who
DL
Digital Lucife®10:10:14 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
so FBA would be logical solution to them
R
R10:10:16 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
murda_ra
Stealth to work around wp ?
If stealth holders want to continue making their own fba backed stealth that's fine, buy core wp should be for the benefit of everyone not a tiny private party.
F
fav10:10:29 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
If stealth holders want to continue making their own fba backed stealth that's fine, buy core wp should be for the benefit of everyone not a tiny private party.
👍
DL
Digital Lucife®10:10:52 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
If stealth holders want to continue making their own fba backed stealth that's fine, buy core wp should be for the benefit of everyone not a tiny private party.
That i agree with. Here im discussing FBA general usage
SS
Stefan Schießl10:10:58 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Fba: incentivize anyone to create useful features for Bitshares and benefit from it. Doesn't have to be a payment system
DL
Digital Lucife®10:11:13 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Fba: incentivize anyone to create useful features for Bitshares and benefit from it. Doesn't have to be a payment system
exactly, it was just e.g.
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JonnyB10:11:15 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I would: Pay off Stealth holders a small amount to destroy all the stealth tokens. And they open source all the code they have. And we can move on to a normal worker proposal.
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Stefan Schießl10:11:17 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
murda_ra
so FBA would be logical solution to them
Fba does not hide the fees, everyone could still look it up
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Digital Lucife®10:11:35 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
FBA with Stealth functionality would
DL
Digital Lucife®10:11:43 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
as bsip-0007 explains
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Stefan Schießl10:11:53 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
I would: Pay off Stealth holders a small amount to destroy all the stealth tokens. And they open source all the code they have. And we can move on to a normal worker proposal.
No, that would be bailout of the parties that promised the old stealth. Just let it sit
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R10:13:27 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
FBAs fail to deliver change - WP results in real deliverables 👍
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JonnyB10:14:03 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
What is the software license on the original stealth code? Are we free to use it as we please
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Stefan Schießl10:14:35 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
What is the software license on the original stealth code? Are we free to use it as we please
Anything in core is MIT
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JonnyB10:15:17 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
So stealth tokens are totally worthless then
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Stefan Schießl10:15:57 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
If the parties who promised stealth step up and do it, no one would copy.it
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JonnyB10:16:42 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
But they could copy it and remove the fee
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R10:16:51 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
So stealth tokens are totally worthless then
Pretty much, imo (not investment advice). If the wp delivers stealth without the fba functionality then it has no purpose.
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Digital Lucife®10:17:37 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Pretty much, imo (not investment advice). If the wp delivers stealth without the fba functionality then it has no purpose.
Another shitshow about to begin if that happens.
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Digital Lucife®10:18:33 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
or maybe an end of original one :D
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JonnyB10:18:54 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Even if they step up and deliver their code can be copied and implemented without the fees. So there's little incentive to develop it. So Stealth tokens are totally worthless.
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Stefan Schießl10:19:53 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
Even if they step up and deliver their code can be copied and implemented without the fees. So there's little incentive to develop it. So Stealth tokens are totally worthless.
True, but that would be a social agreement that everyone would honour. Same matter anyone can fork bitshares and do what they want
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JonnyB10:21:38 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Who controls Stealth-mgmt account?
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Stefan Schießl10:22:09 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Top n stealth holders iirc
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fav10:22:41 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
It's a commitee like acc
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fav10:22:49 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
They decide on Stealth fees
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R10:23:11 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
murda_ra
Another shitshow about to begin if that happens.
Use the wp system, not private deals between small parties when requesting new bts dex functionality. Fba social 'contact' does not have network consensus - wp on the other hand does.
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Stefan Schießl10:23:53 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Use the wp system, not private deals between small parties when requesting new bts dex functionality. Fba social 'contact' does not have network consensus - wp on the other hand does.
A fba would.only enter the core through a BSIP, also consensus present
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JonnyB10:24:02 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I'd love to see this STEALTH asset killed off as it's just a huge source of confusion for everyone.
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fav10:24:40 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
It's a business, and not ours. Don't see any confusion there
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Stefan Schießl10:25:10 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
I'd love to see this STEALTH asset killed off as it's just a huge source of confusion for everyone.
Normal bitshares users dont see stealth, just ops and their fees
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JonnyB10:25:17 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
We've been talking about it for the last few hours because it's so confusing
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Sunil Sage10:25:23 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hey all, just wanted to let the core team of this project know that you now can apply to be listed on Blockport. The easy-to-use exchange has a direct fiat gateway, high volume, and is accessable on both mobile and desktop. For everyone else, Blockport currently has zero deposit fees, so it’s a good time to try it out yourselves: https://blockport.io/future-listing-application
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Digital Lucife®10:25:35 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i would be ok to see STEALTH asset going away, but would like to see creating FBA stays as option for new business on the blockchain
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Digital Lucife®10:26:00 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
instead of creating incentive to just fork us
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Sunil Sage10:26:20 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hey all, just wanted to let the core team of this project know that you now can apply to be listed on Blockport. The easy-to-use exchange has a direct fiat gateway, high volume, and is accessable on both mobile and desktop. For everyone else, Blockport currently has zero deposit fees, so it’s a good time to try it out yourselves: https://blockport.io/future-listing-application
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R10:26:31 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
A fba would.only enter the core through a BSIP, also consensus present
Perhaps, but an active core wp is now working on stealth which negates the fba, no? If the fba approach were to work it'd have delivered by now & there would be newly proposed fba for other projects. Instead we have a healthy wp system used by many which has real deliverables.
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fav10:26:45 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Anyone can develop anything and get it merged in with consensus
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Stefan Schießl10:27:02 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Perhaps, but an active core wp is now working on stealth which negates the fba, no? If the fba approach were to work it'd have delivered by now & there would be newly proposed fba for other projects. Instead we have a healthy wp system used by many which has real deliverables.
No, nothing is being worked on. Only bsips are drafted
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R10:27:25 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
No, nothing is being worked on. Only bsips are drafted
It is in scope of the core wp though
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Stefan Schießl10:27:54 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
It is in scope of the core wp though
Certainly. The core worker could pick up any voted in bsip
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fav10:30:51 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Btw, I'd like to see a bsip filter/tab under voting. It's really clutchy
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Stefan Schießl10:32:24 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
Btw, I'd like to see a bsip filter/tab under voting. It's really clutchy
That be nice. I d love to progress more on companion and integration as well, too much customer work is flooding in this week :/
DL
Digital Lucife®10:41:22 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
That be nice. I d love to progress more on companion and integration as well, too much customer work is flooding in this week :/
Word
DL
Digital Lucife®10:42:08 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
That be nice. I d love to progress more on companion and integration as well, too much customer work is flooding in this week :/
When you are pushing WP for Custom Permissions ?
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Stefan Schießl10:43:49 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
murda_ra
When you are pushing WP for Custom Permissions ?
It's in the pipeline, already merged in the bsip repository and on visible https://www.bitshares.foundation/workers/2018-08-23-bsip40 But not onchain yet
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Digital Lucife®10:45:16 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
It's in the pipeline, already merged in the bsip repository and on https://www.bitshares.foundation/workers/2018-08-23-bsip40 But not onchain yet
👍
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Abit More11:10:46 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Anyone can help approve forum account btspai? Thanks
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Digital Lucife®11:12:57 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
@clockworkgr - if you have time, if not then @favdesu
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fav11:18:07 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Because fav has time, that lazy fuck 😒
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fav11:18:46 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Send me a pm, I got more to approve for later
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Stefan Schießl11:18:55 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
Because fav has time, that lazy fuck 😒
👍 that's what I thought
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Fabian Schuh11:24:03 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
Is this a correct description: FBA take a slice of the fees and automatically returns it proportionally to the FBA holders.
FBA actually uses an automated buyback from the DEX. The fees are used to buy STEALTH token back
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Stefan Schießl11:25:04 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
xeroc
FBA actually uses an automated buyback from the DEX. The fees are used to buy STEALTH token back
Is FBA deactivated and normal referal program activated when all STEALTH are bought up?
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Fabian Schuh11:27:18 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Ni clue
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fav11:31:50 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Xeroc is Chinese confirmed
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fav11:31:52 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Ni hao
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JonnyB11:34:33 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I love how this group has 11k members yet it's always the same 20 people in here chatting
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Mathew11:36:11 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I think we here from 100-200 max...it'd be interesting to know who the other 11k are
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Mathew11:36:18 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I guess they just muted it 😅
YD
You Dontknow11:39:12 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
😂
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nutela11:40:14 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
I love how this group has 11k members yet it's always the same 20 people in here chatting
LOL
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fav11:48:02 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Eos has 65.5k yet 30 at max active ☺️
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Jeff11:49:58 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Good morning. New release is very nice. I especially appreciate the ability to collapse markets. Great usability improvement on smaller displays!
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funkit11:50:19 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
What's Bree?
Bree is a city in Tolkien s lord of the rings.
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Sandwich11:58:04 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
quick, call the news. bitshares alive on eos
😂
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fav11:58:28 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Dude
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fav11:58:40 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Half a year old
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Sandwich11:59:21 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
2 months, was just scrolling through mentions. Was a good joke 😘
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fav11:59:30 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I know right
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Abit More12:01:32 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
Send me a pm, I got more to approve for later
PM what?
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da Lexx12:19:13 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://steemit.com/bitshares/@dalexx/bitshares-graphic-design-1-3
DL
da Lexx12:20:28 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
why can't I post links here ?
DL
da Lexx12:20:39 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
could someone enable
DL
da Lexx12:20:41 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
thx
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Abit More12:30:25 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Why have to post link?
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Abit More12:33:21 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
gzuz_342
why can't I post links here ?
Retry
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Miminooi12:53:44 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Miminooi: https://btcpool.io/16761
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Miminooi12:54:38 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Miminooi: Miminooi: https://btcpool.io/16761
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Miminooi12:54:56 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Miminooi: Miminooi: https://btcpool.io/16761
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Win13:00:57 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Bitworld center is an investment which pays 2.5% daily on your investment
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Miminooi13:01:29 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
halo
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Win13:01:31 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Those interested should PM
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Miminooi13:01:42 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Miminooi: https://btconline.io/258252 Miminooi: https://btcpool.io/16761
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Win13:01:52 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hi
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da Lexx13:03:11 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://steemit.com/bitshares/@dalexx/bitshares-graphic-design-1-3
DL
da Lexx13:03:23 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
abitmore
Retry
👍
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Miminooi13:06:18 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Miminooi: https://btconline.io/258252 Miminooi: https://btcpool.io/16761
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Mr.Zhou13:08:27 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hello, do you have a Chinese telegram group?
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Mathew13:19:41 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Mr.Zhou
Hello, do you have a Chinese telegram group?
https://t.me/BitSharesDEXcn
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John Oliver13:25:43 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Yo everyone!
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Ralph Ramirez13:39:12 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Heeey!
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John Oliver14:02:33 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
listing is when?
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Stefan Schießl14:05:59 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Of what and where?
曲忆14:08:47 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
imToken空投项目,已上交易所,机不可失。http://blog.sina.cn/dpool/blog/s/blog_18cccdb510102yigx.html?from=singlemessage
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Loly14:14:55 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
John Oliver
listing is when?
had the same question
LP
Lydia Powell14:39:59 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
John Oliver
listing is when?
list tokens on huobi/latoken
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Gene Alexander14:53:19 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
whatup everyone!
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Brandon14:59:42 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Gene Alexander
whatup everyone!
team where listing
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Connor A15:07:30 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Brandon
team where listing
hurry up with listing
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funkit15:18:07 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Right. 5 people show up and the first thing they have on their mind is listing. I don't know, but if this does not lead anywhere, please, there is the rest of the internet to play games with. Listing on the dex is normally done through 3. Parties. Unless you are alright about creating an UIA or MPA.
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scrub15:28:58 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Can someone help me with missing transaction via OPEN. STEEM? I sent steem from my open ledger account 7 hours ago and it never showed up. Is the service down?
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funkit15:36:49 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
scrubbrush
Can someone help me with missing transaction via OPEN. STEEM? I sent steem from my open ledger account 7 hours ago and it never showed up. Is the service down?
Please go here: https://openledger.freshdesk.com/support/home
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scrub15:44:41 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Thank you so much I am opening a ticket
HC
Hairy Canary15:53:25 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
scrubbrush
Can someone help me with missing transaction via OPEN. STEEM? I sent steem from my open ledger account 7 hours ago and it never showed up. Is the service down?
...par for the course...my xrp still missing for weeks...
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scrub15:53:53 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
That's horrible :(
HC
Hairy Canary15:56:21 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
scrubbrush
That's horrible :(
...it seems to happen more often with OL than any other bridge....and they can be quite rude about it...likely they will blame you for it ...rippoff...
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Hairy Canary15:57:30 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I have as little to do with OL as is possible...
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scrub15:58:43 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I see, thanks for sharing your experience
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R17:26:26 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
hairycanary
...it seems to happen more often with OL than any other bridge....and they can be quite rude about it...likely they will blame you for it ...rippoff...
They tell you to keep an eye on their blog? 🤣
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Charles Harming17:34:48 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
are there those who use the trading platform ModulTrade? just came across it, and I want to hear feedback from real users, as far as I understand there you can get ETH on referrals! is that true?
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Andreas SQ17:39:04 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
charlie1487
are there those who use the trading platform ModulTrade? just came across it, and I want to hear feedback from real users, as far as I understand there you can get ETH on referrals! is that true?
Ohh! I know it... it's a quite convenient plaform, where you can trade not only goods, but also crypto!
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Alex M - clockwork17:42:12 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
you dont say?
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Hairy Canary17:44:03 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
They tell you to keep an eye on their blog? 🤣
I just want efficient tx"s and dont need to keep an eye on a blog at the same time...
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Sharon Louise17:55:37 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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Aleksandar Mahovac22:24:21 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://steemit.com/eos/@amahovac93/eos-steem-and-bitshares-most-active-blockchains
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xu zhihao22:48:50 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Vote for BTS development. Poll-Bsip42
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R23:02:53 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
fenggelong
Vote for BTS development. Poll-Bsip42
isn't that just a price feed script policy, not bts development?
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fractalnode23:06:22 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
fenggelong
is the reason why I chose DEX the feed price curve is smoother and resistant to quick fluctuations
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R23:10:49 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
fractalnode
there is a reason why I chose DEX the feed price curve is smoother and resistant to quick fluctuations - price spikes
ah you're a fan of price feed oscillation? me too ;D
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xu zhihao23:11:35 - 24 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Foreign friends who are familiar with Chinese are welcome to join the WeChat group discussion - "BTS Reform Program Discussion Group"
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Matt-A00:46:12 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Anybody have 100 BTS they want to trade for some Steem or SBD?
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Hairy Canary00:48:02 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
matt_a
Anybody have 100 BTS they want to trade for some Steem or SBD?
go to the DEX...easy peasy make yer trade there....
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Matt-A00:48:39 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I know, I know. Just trying to P2P it :-).
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FarmerD01:03:06 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
matt_a
I know, I know. Just trying to P2P it :-).
lol😆 correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the dex P2P :-).
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Matt-A01:04:28 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
P2P as in me trading with you, no intermediary platform with names obfuscated, no order books. Just trading.
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Explorer3901:11:06 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sigvek
https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/releases/tag/2.0.180814
Hi svk, every release since 2.0.180720 is unusable for me: I just get a white loading screen. Any idea what might cause that?
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FarmerD01:17:42 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
matt_a
P2P as in me trading with you, no intermediary platform with names obfuscated, no order books. Just trading.
Unless I know you too risky, the dex is the best option imho for p2p between strangers.
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Matt-A01:19:40 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
steemit.com/@matt-a/
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Matt-A01:19:44 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Daaaz me.
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Stefan Schießl02:54:27 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Explorer39
Hi svk, every release since 2.0.180720 is unusable for me: I just get a white loading screen. Any idea what might cause that?
Does it load in incognito mode?
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FarmerD02:57:23 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
matt_a
Daaaz me.
Cool stuff Matt-A. I like your style. https://steemit.com/pwn3d/@matt-a/x-treem-defacement-mike-pence-vice-president-of-the-usa
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FarmerD02:59:04 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
@matt-a you might be interested in joining our bts bloggers group @BitSharesCommunityBloggers
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FarmerD03:03:51 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Or anyone else for that matter 😊
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rw wang04:31:23 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/TNB_Tshirt_Vote
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rw wang04:31:39 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
帮忙投个b,谢谢各位大佬
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Crypto Kong05:48:54 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
ah you're a fan of price feed oscillation? me too ;D
Really? How come you never mentioned it? Lol 😜
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Tar Mar10:18:06 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/BTC_Miner_robot?start=612124843
EC
Earl Crypto11:08:08 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://twitter.com/CryptoNerdsio/status/1033294452461322240
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Earl Crypto11:08:08 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
OMG, check this cryptotrader... over the past 5 months he made approx 400 % profit every month with his trades, total of 1800%. He has many followers that copy his trades, which makes me want to start copying his trades too. What do you guys think?
PC
Poppy Ciulla11:15:32 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Hey! I do love this group so far and i do want to share something value with y'all! I found a group called ' @HouseofAcquisition '. Basically they do share paid insider info for free, and they made more as 200% profit in only 7 weeks - they do documentate all their trades in an online profitsheet!
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Explorer3911:31:54 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Does it load in incognito mode?
I'm using the standalone bitshares wallet, I don't think you can enable incognito mode there
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Stefan Schießl11:37:50 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Explorer39
I'm using the standalone bitshares wallet, I don't think you can enable incognito mode there
Ah. Do you know how to go to developer / debug view (in the top bar menu)?
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R11:41:25 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Really? How come you never mentioned it? Lol 😜
No? Let me tell you about my crypto squiggles then... 🦑 🥨
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da Lexx11:44:50 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
They tell you to keep an eye on their blog? 🤣
LOL. Because of the permanent gateway issues on different assets at OL. I decided only to use BTS for transfers.
一徐
一航 徐11:46:35 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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R11:46:51 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
gzuz_342
LOL. Because of the permanent gateway issues on different assets at OL. I decided only to use BTS for transfers.
You can still use mpa & non broken eba 👍
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fav11:47:17 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
or just any other gateway
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da Lexx12:00:37 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Yes for sure... I personally just stopped to us others than BTS
DL
da Lexx12:01:21 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I think someone waited over a year for his steem to refund
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funkit12:21:04 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
That's poloniex
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R1978 adam12:21:47 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
3
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Crypto Kong12:55:13 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
gzuz_342
I think someone waited over a year for his steem to refund
Think DL waited a long time
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rw wang12:59:37 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/TNB_Tshirt_Vote
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rw wang12:59:52 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
麻烦大家帮忙投b方案,谢谢🙏
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Skybull Analyst13:00:25 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEr6M17PmPDITG-6Bw
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Skybull Analyst13:00:31 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEr6M17PmPDITG-6Bw
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Skybull Analyst13:00:39 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEr6M17PmPDITG-6Bw
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Thom verbaltech213:02:06 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Apparently no hangout this morning, or everyone is in stealth mode on discord. Found no crowd on any channel there.
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FarmerD13:02:38 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
ThomasFreedman
Apparently no hangout this morning, or everyone is in stealth mode on discord. Found no crowd on any channel there.
correct @sirfuzzalot did say no hangout today
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Thom verbaltech213:03:08 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
OKm got it. Thx FarmerD
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Chuyen13:23:53 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
https://newnationnews.org/business/ethereum-whale-investor-transfers-millions-eth-bitfinex-86002260
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bts13:56:13 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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bts13:57:06 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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C.P. Bentley Pixel 🇧🇪15:04:47 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Lender of last resort: If DAI becomes undercollaterized due to a black swan event or bad governance decisions, new MKR will be issued, to replace missing collateral. This of course dilutes the price of MKR. As a result, MKR holders are incentivised to take cautious governance decisions.
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C.P. Bentley Pixel 🇧🇪15:04:56 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
is it a good feature to have?
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fav15:05:18 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sounds like a huge death spiral if it ever happens
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C.P. Bentley Pixel 🇧🇪15:05:53 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
tricky yea
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Fabian Schuh15:05:59 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cpbentley
Lender of last resort: If DAI becomes undercollaterized due to a black swan event or bad governance decisions, new MKR will be issued, to replace missing collateral. This of course dilutes the price of MKR. As a result, MKR holders are incentivised to take cautious governance decisions.
Very tricky ..
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Kevin15:06:18 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
sounds like a huge death spiral if it ever happens
I agree. Let's see how it works for them first.
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Fabian Schuh15:06:45 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I can recall a discussion with dan about allowing to go short on BTS on the dex by allowing reverse bitasset .. Basically u use bitUSD as collateral for newly printed BTS ..
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Fabian Schuh15:07:04 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
However that would destroy the pronise of having limited supply of BTS .. Hence it wasnt implemented
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C.P. Bentley Pixel 🇧🇪15:08:12 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
favdesu
sounds like a huge death spiral if it ever happens
imagine this printed BTS is destroyed/ burn when price of BTS goes back up enough
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fav15:08:49 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
huh+
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Alex M - clockwork15:28:47 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Doesn't sound right
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Alex M - clockwork15:29:11 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
In theory it shouldn't work for a start
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Alex M - clockwork15:29:52 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
If an asset is undercollateralised due to low value of the backing asset
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Alex M - clockwork15:30:29 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Diluting the backing asset SHOULD mean you'd never get back to parity
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Alex M - clockwork15:30:48 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
You add more collateral but lowering it's value
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Alex M - clockwork15:31:16 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Also spreads the risk amongst all holders rather than just borrowers
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Alex M - clockwork15:32:03 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
If Black swan and losing your collateral is not enough deterrent to risky behaviour , I fail to see how this is bettet
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Alex M - clockwork15:34:31 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
xeroc
I can recall a discussion with dan about allowing to go short on BTS on the dex by allowing reverse bitasset .. Basically u use bitUSD as collateral for newly printed BTS ..
How about using bitUSD to unlock reserve pool bts? Thus keeping the supply
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Alex M - clockwork15:35:42 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
So bts is not created but taken out of reserve. Could set a daily limit like for settling bitassets
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Fabian Schuh15:42:13 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
How about using bitUSD to unlock reserve pool bts? Thus keeping the supply
My thoughts too .. However, you need reserves to pay block producers and workers ..
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Fabian Schuh15:43:02 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
For limits .. How about funding a separate fund (like witness budget or worker budget) to be available for shorter?
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Fabian Schuh15:43:27 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
However, why would we allow someone that wants to go SHORT on BTS, to use the BTS in the reserves for that?
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Explorer3916:07:29 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Ah. Do you know how to go to developer / debug view (in the top bar menu)?
Yes I've been there while exploring! What should I do there?
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Stefan Schießl16:11:32 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Explorer39
Yes I've been there while exploring! What should I do there?
Go to Application / Memory and look for entries that are called settings_v3 and settings_v4. Which one is filled?
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Matt Johnson16:19:32 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
cpbentley
Lender of last resort: If DAI becomes undercollaterized due to a black swan event or bad governance decisions, new MKR will be issued, to replace missing collateral. This of course dilutes the price of MKR. As a result, MKR holders are incentivised to take cautious governance decisions.
The Creator of maker was a big bts guy before starting that project. He actually air dropped 30 mkr on everyone that was in the beyond bitcoin webinar... Wasn't worth anything back then, but those who held (or forgot like me) ended up with a nice gift
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Explorer3916:24:53 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I can't find that parameter but I did find an error in the console
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Explorer3916:24:53 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Go to Application / Memory and look for entries that are called settings_v3 and settings_v4. Which one is filled?
bitshares console error
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Stefan Schießl16:26:42 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
On the right window, 4 spots right of Console in the header there is a little arrow. Application should be hidden there
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Explorer3916:27:35 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I've been there but there isn't a memory subsection
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Explorer3916:38:58 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
ok so in the dev mode I cleaned application data and now it works but my wallet got deleted! I have backups tho hehe
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Stefan Schießl16:51:44 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Explorer39
ok so in the dev mode I cleaned application data and now it works but my wallet got deleted! I have backups tho hehe
Yea that was the easy way :) I wanted to see if it is the error in the settings I had in my mind. Glad it works again
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Explorer3917:18:51 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Yea that was the easy way :) I wanted to see if it is the error in the settings I had in my mind. Glad it works again
Thanks for your help!
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JonnyB18:04:53 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I thought with was the sole collateral for dai at the moment
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JonnyB18:05:22 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I thought ETH was the sole collateral for dai at the moment
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R18:22:21 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
I thought ETH was the sole collateral for dai at the moment
could be easily replicated on the bts dex using a btc eba as backing for an USD pegged MPA, better yet: https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/100
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Mak Mining Co.19:00:45 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
hey bitshare ppl
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Mak Mining Co.19:00:53 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i'm trying to create a sell order but i keep getting this error: missing required active authority: Missing Active Authority 1.2.886901
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Mak Mining Co.19:01:08 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
any idea how i can fix this?
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funkit19:02:20 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Log out and in again. Or restart.
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Mak Mining Co.19:08:11 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i barely logged in
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Mak Mining Co.19:09:30 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i logged out and back in and still same error
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funkit19:10:23 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Dude, you have a multi sig setup.
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Mak Mining Co.19:12:13 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
hmmm
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funkit19:12:27 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
I'd say your setup is way to strict to be practical.
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Mak Mining Co.19:13:37 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
how do i add my account to my active permissions?
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Mak Mining Co.19:14:54 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i have 3 BTS addresses as active permissions
はるか19:14:56 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
is that 3 passwords?
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funkit19:15:00 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
As far as I can see you have already done it.
はるか19:15:54 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
do NOT add the account to it's own permissions
はるか19:16:19 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
could mean lost access forever
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funkit19:16:23 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
No, you have 4, each with 25 % weight and 100% threashold.
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Mak Mining Co.19:16:39 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i have 4 owner permissions and 3 active permissions
はるか19:16:46 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
harukaff_bot
could mean lost access forever
if done wrong
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funkit19:17:38 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Yeah right. Help this guy haruka. This is out of my territory
はるか19:18:42 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
may i know what were you trying to achieve by those permission settings?
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Mak Mining Co.19:18:54 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i'm trying to sell some funds
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Mak Mining Co.19:19:04 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Makrura
i'm trying to create a sell order but i keep getting this error: missing required active authority: Missing Active Authority 1.2.886901
but i keep getting this error
はるか19:19:55 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
just checked the permission settings
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funkit19:20:37 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
You probably get it because you don't reach the weight threshold
はるか19:20:40 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
under current settings, unfortunately you are locked yourself from using owner permission
はるか19:21:05 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
active still could work, but needs some actions
はるか19:21:46 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
are you using wallet mode or account mode to login?
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Mak Mining Co.19:22:02 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
account name
はるか19:22:32 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
if you open the permission page, currently only one key is clickable?
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Mak Mining Co.19:23:22 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
yes
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Mak Mining Co.19:23:31 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i'm using crypto-bridge
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Mak Mining Co.19:23:56 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
only account name is clickable, others are BTS addresses
はるか19:24:39 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
it seems you are not logged in at the moment from permission page
はるか19:25:04 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
try logging in then observe the permission page
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Mak Mining Co.19:25:29 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
is there another way to login besides account name?
はるか19:26:04 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
using a wallet file which includes the private keys
はるか19:26:53 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
but under current circumstances you need to recover all three corresponding private keys to regain the access to the funds
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Mak Mining Co.19:27:25 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i have the keys
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Mak Mining Co.19:27:27 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
but not the file
はるか19:27:52 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
try creating a wallet in settings, then import all the keys
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Mak Mining Co.19:28:15 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
do i add it under active permissions or owner permissions?
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funkit19:28:18 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Haruka means a local wallet
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Mak Mining Co.19:28:51 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
where can i do that?
はるか19:29:01 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
in the bed now, couldn't confirm how settings page looks like now...
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Mak Mining Co.19:29:23 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
oh okay i see it
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Mak Mining Co.19:31:39 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
okay i tried creating a new wallet
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Mak Mining Co.19:31:41 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
it logged me out
はるか19:32:04 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
it is normal
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Mak Mining Co.19:32:33 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
okay
はるか19:32:50 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
if you have the private keys (begins with number 5) then you could import those into the new wallet now
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Mak Mining Co.19:35:13 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
okay how do i import the keys
はるか19:35:48 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
i think it is in settings - restore
はるか19:36:13 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
just choose import a private key in the dropdown menu
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Mak Mining Co.19:36:22 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
says this wallet hgas already been imported
はるか19:38:11 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
were you trying to import the backup file (.bin)?
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Mak Mining Co.19:39:50 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
no i entered the private keys
はるか19:41:29 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
try importing all three keys, then see if all the keys in permission page is highlighted
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Mak Mining Co.19:42:49 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
it says this local wallet does not contain any accounts
はるか19:43:50 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
where did you get this message?
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Mak Mining Co.19:45:40 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
under "accounts"
はるか19:46:56 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
if you have the right keys imported without errors, try the permission page of the account
はるか19:47:35 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Makrura
says this wallet hgas already been imported
im not sure about this error when importing keys...
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Mak Mining Co.19:49:02 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
what if i have a brain key?
はるか19:49:42 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
try importing that in recover page if you have one
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scrub23:07:54 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
hello is there support that can help me? I encountered a bug in bitshares that caused my funds to be sent to the incorrect account during my send.
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FarmerD23:16:59 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
scrubbrush
hello is there support that can help me? I encountered a bug in bitshares that caused my funds to be sent to the incorrect account during my send.
Sorry to say seems very unlikely (if not impossible) you must have typed the wrong address. What account were you sending to and to which account did it go?
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scrub23:23:17 - 25 Aug 2018 [UTC]
FarmerD
Sorry to say seems very unlikely (if not impossible) you must have typed the wrong address. What account were you sending to and to which account did it go?
It sure does seem very unlikely, but I assure you I encountered a bug. I PM'd you.
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funkit02:24:44 - 26 Aug 2018 [UTC]
Oh my! That is a serious bug! Report it where it. Belongs: GitHub
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scrub03:50:47 - 26 Aug 2018 [UTC]
How do I report it in GitHub? I emailed bitshares... maybe GitHub is more appropriate
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scrub03:51:07 - 26 Aug 2018 [UTC]
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Digital Lucife®05:48:08 - 26 Aug 2018 [UTC]
scrubbrush
How do I report it in GitHub? I emailed bitshares... maybe GitHub is more appropriate
You go create account, login
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Digital Lucife®05:48:24 - 26 Aug 2018 [UTC]
head on to https://github.com/bitshares/
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Digital Lucife®05:48:45 - 26 Aug 2018 [UTC]
and pick repository where your issue/bug fits (core, ui, etc)
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Digital Lucife®05:48:50 - 26 Aug 2018 [UTC]
go to the repository
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Digital Lucife®05:48:53 - 26 Aug 2018 [UTC]
find issues
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Digital Lucife®05:48:55 - 26 Aug 2018 [UTC]
create new one
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Digital Lucife®05:49:30 - 26 Aug 2018 [UTC]
And for more questions - Use Google, will return more less the same, just you'll have to try harder than with me.
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/cancel@IFTTT
No active command to cancel. I wasn't doing anything anyway. Zzzzz...
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