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Thule 36901:44:18 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

murda_ra

Created New assets ?

My friend i'm part of bitshares

Thule 36901:44:29 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and i don't agree on that like many others don't

Thule 36901:45:04 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and since i'm part of bitshares i start now getting activ to change someting what i don't like

Digital Lucife®01:45:48 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

and since i'm part of bitshares i start now getting activ to change someting what i don't like

Individual changing things how he wants is not centralized and abuse of power ?

Thule 36901:46:25 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

its starts from one and hopefully we will get soon enough to make these changes happen

Digital Lucife®01:46:40 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

he placed a massiv buywall at 1.08 cny

so he buys a lot of cny ?

Digital Lucife®01:47:07 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

under the higher price than his collateral call ?

Digital Lucife®01:47:11 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

how he profits ?

Digital Lucife®01:47:22 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

he creates losses to save the margin ?

Digital Lucife®01:47:56 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

how is that damaging anyone ?

Digital Lucife®01:48:13 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

People who are selling gets happy someone has big buy wall ?

Digital Lucife®01:48:37 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

2 real life examples, that you and others probably know sh*t abotu

Thule 36901:49:49 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

First of all you are talking nonsense.Did you ever trade with bigger amounts ? Secondly for me that conversation stops here as i don't talk to stupid luciferians. Go warship your master

Digital Lucife®01:50:26 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

1) Back at the beginning of the year, certain owner of CompuMatrix who lives in Phillipines was calling margin. He nearly created black swan with it. Instead of all that to happen, through some private channels of communication, bitcrab reached out to this margin caller and saved the blockchain and collateral by buying off his debt. Thanks to bitcrab that guy didnt lost everything and guess what... he did first BitShares atm in PH not week ago.

Thule 36901:51:04 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

murda_ra

lol

Thule 36901:51:10 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

what a samaerita

Thule 36901:51:12 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

the issue

Digital Lucife®01:51:17 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

yeah he did

Digital Lucife®01:51:23 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

nobody else did

Digital Lucife®01:51:25 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

not even you

Thule 36901:51:31 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

wouldn't he buy this margin his own assets would also disapear on a black swan

Digital Lucife®01:51:34 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

or you were worried about compumatrix margin

Digital Lucife®01:52:17 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

wouldn't he buy this margin his own assets would also disapear on a black swan

Not really. Core team did update on blockchain in Dec 2017 for prevent disaster of that scope.

Thule 36901:52:27 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

lol

Thule 36901:52:33 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

stop mixing topics

Digital Lucife®01:52:40 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Im not

Thule 36901:52:41 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

he was forced to buy the margin

Digital Lucife®01:52:43 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

im saying you know shit

Thule 36901:52:48 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

else he would lose all his own assets

Digital Lucife®01:52:50 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

about bitcrab, blockchain, blackswan or workers

Thule 36901:53:08 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

you clearly have no clue what you are talking about

Digital Lucife®01:53:17 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I do, you don't.

Thule 36901:53:32 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

would bitcrab let the black swan happen all his own BTS would be gone too since it was under 1.75

Digital Lucife®01:53:36 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

What seems that bitcrab is doing now is not what you are saying for past 60 hours.

Thule 36901:53:50 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

so buying the margin he saved his own ass

Digital Lucife®01:54:36 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

When some regulation comes to this blockchain, faces like you will have to stick out with the name.

Thule 36901:54:37 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and i'm very well aware of it since i was also waiting to buy (not that amount he did) but at a cheaper price

Digital Lucife®01:54:40 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I can't wait that day to come.

Digital Lucife®01:55:01 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Since we all have here real faces and names, but for some reason you fudders are always nameless but correct.

Digital Lucife®01:55:07 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Correct and right people have nothing to hide.

Thule 36901:55:18 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

lucifer is your name ?

Thule 36901:55:24 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

the dick sucker

Thule 36901:55:41 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

go fuck goats

Digital Lucife®01:56:15 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

If you ever looked at forum for real

Digital Lucife®01:56:17 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

to read anything

Digital Lucife®01:56:20 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

would be finding my handle

Digital Lucife®01:56:25 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and in signature full details

Digital Lucife®01:56:30 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

name, address, company, tax id, etc.

Thule 36901:56:31 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

i give shit

Thule 36901:56:47 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

your name is worthless

Digital Lucife®01:56:57 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 36901:57:03 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

you don't even understand the lawfull meaning of a name

Digital Lucife®01:57:07 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Im glad we sorted out to the public your real side.

Thule 36901:57:18 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and choosing a nick with lucifer shows me what kind of goat you are

Digital Lucife®01:57:31 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Really ?

Digital Lucife®01:57:38 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Let me enlight you.

Digital Lucife®01:57:39 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

"In cryptography, Lucifer was the name given to several of the earliest civilian block ciphers, developed by Horst Feistel and his colleagues at IBM."

Thule 36901:57:52 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

LOL

Digital Lucife®01:57:57 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Since you like jumping into conclusions.

Thule 36901:58:15 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

You are aware who were the creates of these companies ?

Digital Lucife®01:58:28 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

now IBM is also the problem, yes.

Thule 36901:58:55 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

murda_ra

now IBM is also the problem, yes.

you see you are even not aware what you represent

Digital Lucife®01:59:05 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

"Thule" ? You're roof packaging of a car ?

Digital Lucife®01:59:18 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

thats why you're so static i get it now

Digital Lucife®01:59:25 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Admin, you have plenty of insults above

Digital Lucife®01:59:28 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

to remove him from group

Digital Lucife®01:59:30 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

im done ;)

Thule 36901:59:42 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

go warship your master

Thule 36901:59:55 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

or at least learn history what you represent

Thule 36902:02:15 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Also your images clearly show who you warship

Digital Lucife®02:02:36 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Worship would be correct English, mr Mba.

Digital Lucife®02:03:02 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Warship would be battle ship.

funkit02:13:19 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

however i didn't saw a single WP from bitcrab about marketing DEX or even activly voting for any project of that kind even the DEXbot

This is simply false. The Chinese are the only ones that got funds for marketing. And bitcrab was a central figure in that effort

Thule 36902:13:48 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

funkit

This is simply false. The Chinese are the only ones that got funds for marketing. And bitcrab was a central figure in that effort

show me a single international one

Digital Lucife®02:14:49 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

show me a single international one

Who ever made one ?

Thule 36902:15:08 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

murda_ra

Who ever made one ?

you are irrelevant with your nick

Digital Lucife®02:16:01 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

@funkit - Yo, please ask Mr. MBA how you can show something of similar quality but international one if nobody ever submitted one (re worker marketing) :)

Nedu02:25:47 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

you are irrelevant with your nick

Why are you disturbing the whole community just so you can buy some bts cheaper, 12 cents aint enough for you?

funkit02:26:51 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

show me a single international one

That's beside the point. The only marketing effort ever was the Chinese one. And great things came out of it like listing on several of their reformed exchanges. Also listing of cny. I'm not sure if binance and huobi is a result of this but could well be. So before you spread more disinformation here, I suggest you take it easy. And at least produce some documentation. Post it on a blog, bitshares talk or whatever for interested parties to check your claims.

Thule 36902:27:49 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

funkit

huobi is a result of crypviser

Thule 36902:27:59 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

AEX is also not a result of bitcrab

Digital Lucife®02:28:57 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

funkit

He is not doing so. Has over 30 posts of spam and constant repeating without a single doc or even screenshot to back his discussion.

Digital Lucife®02:29:03 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

its only point out finger and ram

Digital Lucife®02:29:14 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

reminds me of myself back last year

Digital Lucife®02:29:18 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Digital Lucife®02:29:28 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

When i was seriously dumb about how thing works around here.

Thule 36902:29:38 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

murda_ra

He is not doing so. Has over 30 posts of spam and constant repeating without a single doc or even screenshot to back his discussion.

i know stupid people need to be taken by hand and explained

funkit02:30:07 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

i know stupid people need to be taken by hand and explained

And who is stupid?

Digital Lucife®02:30:16 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Me and rest of bitsharestalk apparently.

Thule 36902:30:32 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

digital claiming there is no proof of claims

Thule 36902:31:04 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

i guess everyone sucked there figures out of our fingers

Digital Lucife®02:31:14 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

If there is, im sure if nobody else or abit or xeroc would be removing votes on smallest real concern (as xeroc already done one time)

Thule 36902:31:52 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

murda_ra

If there is, im sure if nobody else or abit or xeroc would be removing votes on smallest real concern (as xeroc already done one time)

you make assumption or you actually have some knowledge ?

Digital Lucife®02:32:17 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Assumption ?

Digital Lucife®02:32:24 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Do you even read that bitsharestalk.org

Digital Lucife®02:32:29 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

or you just go blind and post

Thule 36902:32:35 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Xeroc is well aware of that issue and thats why i'm dissappointed by his decission

Thule 36902:32:53 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

murda_ra

Assumption ?

i read your post some time ago

Thule 36902:32:56 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

nothing special

Digital Lucife®02:33:01 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Not mine

Digital Lucife®02:33:02 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=20792.msg320322#msg320322

Thule 36902:33:02 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

not worth reading

Digital Lucife®02:33:13 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Im talking about xeroc in this case.

Thule 36902:33:25 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and do you keep reading ?

Digital Lucife®02:33:29 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

And you're more and more looking like an angry ignorant Scandinavian.

Thule 36902:33:33 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

bitcrab got xeroc back

Digital Lucife®02:34:08 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I believe Xeroc is far more intelligent than most of us to do evaluation on bitcrab's doings, so i do believe in his decision.

Thule 36902:34:11 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

so now you make profiling based on race ?

Thule 36902:34:29 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

i don't care what you belive

Thule 36902:34:35 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

what i care are facts

Thule 36902:34:44 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

you belive in satan

funkit02:34:44 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

what i care are facts

I just caught you in lies.

Thule 36902:34:52 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

so you are clearly having an issue

Thule 36902:35:42 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

murda_ra

I believe Xeroc is far more intelligent than most of us to do evaluation on bitcrab's doings, so i do believe in his decision.

based on which facts you claim xeroc made the right decission ?

Digital Lucife®02:36:01 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Facts are : 1) You dont have a proof of bitcrab taking profits. Blockchain is transparent, please state account and block id will inspect through explorer for anything you claim is being done. 2) Market is not being manipulated, its being stabilized through community and stake-holders by being asked to do so. Against bearish market its protection of the DEX and i agree with it.

Thule 36902:36:33 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

lol

Digital Lucife®02:37:03 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and last but most important

Thule 36902:37:05 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

1) its a fact that if there would be no OMO buy wall Bitcrab would have sold his margin called BTS at a way lower price

Thule 36902:37:09 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

noone can deny it

Digital Lucife®02:37:33 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Block ID and account please.

Thule 36902:38:10 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

2.market manipulation.......cmc went thanks to the buy walll up from 29 to 24 creating such a sell pressure that his buy wall got eaten because bts price was on external exchanges lower than on dex

Digital Lucife®02:38:12 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

3) Committee fund worker is having 313,776,269 BTS in votes, it's legally there and unless its supporters remove the vote, i suggest you stop fudding, spamming and insulting everyone around.

Thule 36902:38:43 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

the consensus was not given for what bitcrab did

Thule 36902:38:58 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

he abused the RP fund

Thule 36902:39:11 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and thats a fact too

Thule 36902:39:23 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Consensus was and still is

Digital Lucife®02:39:24 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

he abused the RP fund

As i said, by your personal opinion. By its supporters, not.

Thule 36902:39:33 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

at a price under 2 CNY to have a Ratio of 4

Digital Lucife®02:39:58 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and BTC went south from 7100 to 6300

Thule 36902:40:00 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

you know if you are to stupid to read what is written in a WP and what he did than its not my fault

Digital Lucife®02:40:01 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

in less than 24 hours

Thule 36902:40:06 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

who cares

Digital Lucife®02:40:09 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

entire markets were down

Thule 36902:40:10 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

what BTC did

Digital Lucife®02:40:11 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

5-25%

Digital Lucife®02:40:24 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

dont talk nonsense, im asking you nicely for 6th time.

Thule 36902:40:24 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

would he stick to consensus there would be no issue

Digital Lucife®02:40:36 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Stick to Consensus ?

Digital Lucife®02:40:45 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Can you please define Consensus ?

Thule 36902:40:53 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

would he have a Ratio of 4 the price could even drop 50%

Digital Lucife®02:41:06 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

What Consensus has to do with ratio and the price ?

Thule 36902:41:09 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and noone would say anything

Digital Lucife®02:41:15 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

he got Worker TO MANAGE THE FUNDS

Digital Lucife®02:41:19 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and he is MANAGING THE FUNDS

Digital Lucife®02:41:24 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

what is wrong with your head ?

Thule 36902:41:43 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

you are an idiot or something like that.Talking with me about a WP and doesnt even knowing what the WP contains

Digital Lucife®02:41:45 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

If you dont like what BitCrab is doing

Digital Lucife®02:42:03 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

find your own investors as price is low so its good for them, and create a worker to compete with BitCrab

Thule 36902:42:48 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

2. operators need to take good care while operate with debt positions, as an initial rough principle, when BTS price is under 2CNY: while collateral ratio > 4, borrowing more smartcoin is allowed. while 4>collateral ratio>3, smartcoin income can be used to buy more BTS, but borrowing more smartcoin is not allowed. while 3>collateral ratio, smartcoin income need to be used to reduce debt position, buying more BTS is not allowed.

Thule 36902:42:48 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

here for people like you his WP

Digital Lucife®02:43:02 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

you are an idiot or something like that.Talking with me about a WP and doesnt even know what the WP contains

Asshole to be correct, unto ignorant ones.

Thule 36902:43:45 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

here to show people which are idiots where the definition of idiots is that these are people who are not willing to accept information

Thule 36902:43:46 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

while collateral ratio > 4, borrowing more smartcoin is allowed.

Thule 36902:43:58 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

while 3>collateral ratio, smartcoin income need to be used to reduce debt position, buying more BTS is not allowed.

Digital Lucife®02:44:10 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

here to show people which are idiots where the definition of idiots is that these are people who are not willing to accept information

Don

Thule 36902:44:18 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

so what do you don't understand from his WP ?

Thule 36902:48:28 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

murda_ra

Don't you have a mirror in the house ?

and here also for you 1.the purpose of the fund is to adjust the supply of smartcoins,

Thule 36902:48:59 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

where does it say on WP the purpose of the fund is to increase BTS price or set buy walls ?

Thule 36902:49:54 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

people agrred on that WP only because it was always mentioned to hold the high colllateral ratio

funkit02:50:00 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

where does it say on WP the purpose of the fund is to increase BTS price or set buy walls ?

I put out a couple today. Am I manipulating?

Thule 36902:50:39 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

funkit

I put out a couple today. Am I manipulating?

yes trying to manipulate the readers here

funkit02:51:07 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

That's an ad hominem attack that I disregard

Jerry Liu02:58:30 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=26914.0

Jerry Liu02:58:35 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

please check this suggestion

Digital Lucife®03:00:16 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

bitcrab

please check this suggestion

He did, and he spammed there as well.

Thule 36903:00:52 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

bitcrab needs to reduce the influence of external exchanges to make his new buy walls bullet proof LOL Keep going to manipulate in favour of the price manipulation.You will see were this ends.

Digital Lucife®03:05:35 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

bitcrab needs to reduce the influence of external exchanges to make his new buy walls bullet proof LOL Keep going to manipulate in favour of the price manipulation.You will see were this ends.

You don't even know who bitcrab is ?

Digital Lucife®03:05:54 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

What a joke. Please remove from the group.

funkit03:12:11 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

bitcrab needs to reduce the influence of external exchanges to make his new buy walls bullet proof LOL Keep going to manipulate in favour of the price manipulation.You will see were this ends.

I suggest you raise your concerns with bitcrab directly instead of smearing him here. It's much better to reach out with a constructive dialogue.

Thule 36903:13:54 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

he already posted "and in the future OMO definitely will continue to create "unnatural" price in front of you."

Thule 36903:14:23 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

so what you wanna talk me with him

Thule 36903:14:30 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

its about the buy walls

Thule 36903:14:43 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

i'm against it like majority of community

Thule 36903:14:45 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

he is pro

Thule 36903:14:54 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

so there is a conflict

Digital Lucife®03:15:39 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Have you ever heard of compromise ? If you are so skilled with trading, suggest different approach. Bitcrab will listen to reason

funkit03:18:42 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

i'm against it like majority of community

Based on the votes, no.

Thule 36903:19:21 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

more voters denied to vote than he got so based on votes too

funkit03:24:33 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

more voters denied to vote than he got so based on votes too

1 share = 1 vote. Bitcrab is skilled at gathering them. Everyone can put forward their own proposal and if it's better, it should gather more votes. Simple. Do it. Now.

Thule 36903:25:30 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

i will do it in another way

funkit03:36:37 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Whatever. I look forward to see a wp that involves not putting up buy/sell walls. If you achieve something from it, great!

FarmerD03:54:13 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

bitcrab needs to reduce the influence of external exchanges to make his new buy walls bullet proof LOL Keep going to manipulate in favour of the price manipulation.You will see were this ends.

Lol this conversation is serious hilarious 😆 you don't know who bitcrab is I'm guessing

fav04:28:18 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Mylimbsarelong

Desktop? Not the chrome extension?

Yes Desktop, works with any browser now. :)

funkit04:32:54 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Oh man. A new release every second day.

Stefan Schießl04:33:16 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

but i think we'll go back to the bot solution

With a custom active authorty, done :)

Stefan Schießl04:35:03 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

it's quite clever actually....the desktop app (an electron app...html/js/css) launches a websocket server on localhost....webpages with scatter integration that you visit in chrome simply try to connecto to localhost at specified port

Isn't that our intended design as well for your (soon to be finished, right?) app as well? 😆

Alpesh Khatri04:56:30 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Frustrating.... Please fix the chart.. dex gets disconnected often and have to reload or even if i navigate, the indicators r gone.. everytime have to set it up...if i save indicators its not available if different node connected. Now what happened was i saved it and its gone... I selected my saved one but someone overwritten on it so my saved indicators are gone again and not every node is capable of 15m 30m chart

Digital Lucife®04:57:21 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Alpeshkhatri

Settings -> Nodes -> Please select different one.

Alpesh Khatri04:57:45 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I keep selecting nodes and my saved indicators r gone everytime

Alpesh Khatri04:58:04 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

This is not happening

Digital Lucife®04:58:05 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

If any available with your requirements. If not, just run in localhost one for yourself it would be most beneficial - especially with those requirements.

Alpesh Khatri04:58:35 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

And how to run a local host?

Alpesh Khatri04:58:50 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Any link with steps?

Digital Lucife®04:59:02 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Purchase a server with specs of 128GB Ram plus, plug it in to internet

Digital Lucife®04:59:07 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and follow this tutorial

Digital Lucife®04:59:58 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-core#getting-started

Alpesh Khatri05:00:13 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Ok so if i increase a ram it shud work on laptop too.. rite?

Alpesh Khatri05:00:27 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Ok thx will check it right away

Digital Lucife®05:00:40 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

128GB + in laptop.... if possible yes.

Stefan Schießl05:22:09 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Alpeshkhatri

The connected node is less the proble, rather https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/issues/1714 https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/issues/1669

Alpesh Khatri05:30:00 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Yeah i was wondering how a change of node changes trading view chart on same dex if u noticed, different nodes have different time frames... Its not uniform across the nodes

Alpesh Khatri05:31:14 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

The save indicator template does save but its open to all anyone can overwrite your saved indicator lol shud be limited to user logged in, no?

Stefan Schießl05:31:18 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Alpeshkhatri

Yeah i was wondering how a change of node changes trading view chart on same dex if u noticed, different nodes have different time frames... Its not uniform across the nodes

Yes, the default bucket size is up to the node operator. In either case, reloading the indicators should still be supported

Stefan Schießl05:32:20 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Alpeshkhatri

The save indicator template does save but its open to all anyone can overwrite your saved indicator lol shud be limited to user logged in, no?

Aha, you seem to have good knowledge on TradingView, would you mind writing some insight to it in the issue? Does TradingView on other exchanges have a TradingView login?

Alpesh Khatri05:33:09 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Alpesh Khatri05:33:33 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Trading view doesnt hv logins on other ex

Alpesh Khatri05:34:26 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

But other exchanges do not have save template option as it saves the indicator for the user logged in.. so next time u login it loads the chart with your indicators

Alpesh Khatri05:35:09 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Try it on bitmex

Alpesh Khatri05:37:57 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

U see, bittrex is not using trading view but it does save the indicators so whenever u open u have it already no need to setup everytime..

Stefan Schießl05:38:43 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Alpeshkhatri

U see, bittrex is not using trading view but it does save the indicators so whenever u open u have it already no need to setup everytime..

I see

fav05:40:25 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

Aha, you seem to have good knowledge on TradingView, would you mind writing some insight to it in the issue? Does TradingView on other exchanges have a TradingView login?

Hello sir, do you have a minute to talk about Bsips with us?

Stefan Schießl05:40:56 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

favdesu

Hello sir, do you have a minute to talk about Bsips with us?

Always

fav05:41:19 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Bitshares witnesses

Alex M - clockwork05:41:46 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

favdesu

Bitshares witnesses

yes?

Alex M - clockwork05:42:39 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

murda_ra

Purchase a server with specs of 128GB Ram plus, plug it in to internet

DL calm down...you're going fav

Alex M - clockwork05:43:12 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

Isn't that our intended design as well for your (soon to be finished, right?) app as well? 😆

was looking at chrome add on originally...this way is much better

fav05:43:39 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

yes?

Read context

Alex M - clockwork05:44:23 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

favdesu

Read context

gotcha

Stefan Schießl05:45:12 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

favdesu

Read context

I don't get it 😱

Pramuditha05:45:19 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Hello gys

Alex M - clockwork05:45:27 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Hello sir, do you have a minute to talk about Bsips with us?

Alex M - clockwork05:46:32 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

it's a joke on jehova's witnesses

Alex M - clockwork05:47:04 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

we should do a bitshares fork called jehova

Alex M - clockwork05:47:09 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

just for the sake of that pun

funkit05:47:42 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Halleluja shares is a different room

Alpesh Khatri05:47:55 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

I see

So even if you navigate to dashboard, explorer or settings after logged in, the indicators set up is gone... Not something that a traders wud like

Stefan Schießl05:48:00 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

it's a joke on jehova's witnesses

Hm, I see ... I'm passionate about the new BSIP, blinded by focus

Stefan Schießl05:48:10 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Alpeshkhatri

So even if you navigate to dashboard, explorer or settings after logged in, the indicators set up is gone... Not something that a traders wud like

Understandable

Digital Lucife®05:48:43 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

Hm, I see ... I'm passionate about the new BSIP, blinded by focus

blinded by focus or loss of focus :D

Alex M - clockwork05:48:47 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

Understandable, the issues above should fix that

maybe storeable in localstorage?

fav05:49:25 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

funkit

Halleluja shares is a different room

Blinded by the Light

Alex M - clockwork05:50:00 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

favdesu

Blinded by the Light

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dFQ5OxV72M

funkit05:51:39 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

favdesu

Blinded by the Light

Riddle 1473: The white knight rode into the scarlet sunset unseen by the black forces of evil. Which color of socks was he wearing?

fav05:52:16 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

YELLOW

funkit05:56:06 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Damn you're sharp. New riddle tomorrow.

Pete S06:03:25 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Can someone help me with my BTS

funkit06:06:15 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Sure. What's up?

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Pramuditha08:07:13 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

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Valera Cogut08:23:22 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

guys, what do you think about #1245 issue ? do we need it ?

Valera Cogut08:24:06 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

voting not only UP or do not vote at all, but also to have possibility to vote DOWN, do we need such voting option ?

Valera Cogut08:24:16 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

what are yout thoughts ?

は

はるか08:24:51 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

didnt read #1245, but there was vote down

は

はるか08:25:06 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

removed to prevent possible abuse

R08:25:35 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Vote for refund400k if you want to vote down wp

Valera Cogut08:26:03 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

will read it now

Valera Cogut08:26:19 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

thx

は

はるか08:26:32 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cmmob

Vote for refund400k if you want to vote down wp

would lift the requirement for other unrelated and possibly supported wp

R08:27:11 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

harukaff_bot

would lift the requirement for other unrelated and possibly supported wp

Yep

Thor08:28:25 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

what is the difference between using —replay-blockchain and ommitting it when restarting a node?

Valera Cogut08:29:20 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

https://github.com/grctest/bsips/blob/master/bsip-0022.md

Alex M - clockwork08:30:00 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

dumblethor

what is the difference between using —replay-blockchain and ommitting it when restarting a node?

replay will replay entire chain from the beginnign and recalculate state...

Alex M - clockwork08:30:35 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

no replay will just use LIB or last checkpoint or something(cant remember)

Thor08:31:28 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

replay will replay entire chain from the beginnign and recalculate state...

so if you know that nothing was touched it shouldn't be a problem starting from last checkpoint i guess

Alex M - clockwork08:32:01 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Yep

Alex M - clockwork08:32:23 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Replay is usually needed when update changes consensus rules

Thor08:33:05 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Ok good to know

R08:33:32 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

valeracogut

https://github.com/grctest/bsips/blob/master/bsip-0022.md

Ah a classic 👌 - It was mentioned in the sotn report recently too

Alex M - clockwork08:34:19 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cmmob

Ah a classic 👌 - It was mentioned in the sotn report recently too

and I still insist...vote expiration will exacerbate the problem...

Alex M - clockwork08:34:35 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

only proxy assignment expiration will help

Alex M - clockwork08:35:09 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

there was a new discussion on "locking" BTS used for voting

Alex M - clockwork08:36:09 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

to ensure that not only you vote with skin in the game but with a certain mid-long term commitment as well

Alex M - clockwork08:36:14 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

which kinda makes sense

Alex M - clockwork08:36:19 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

it's in github somewhere

R08:36:22 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

and I still insist...vote expiration will exacerbate the problem...

I'm sure dictators around the world too agree with indefinite terms

は

はるか08:36:36 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

Replay is usually needed when update changes consensus rules

or when object database structure changes... or you need to change supported timeframe of market history plugin

R08:36:58 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Frankly, nobody should hold permanent votes from deceased community members.

Alex M - clockwork08:37:45 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cmmob

I'm sure dictators around the world too agree with indefinite terms (not to imply you're specifically a dictator :p)

unless you solve voter apathy, vote expiration means that the status quo will only get stronger

Alex M - clockwork08:37:55 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cmmob

Frankly, nobody should hold permanent votes from deceased community members.

doubt we have many of those :)

Alex M - clockwork08:38:23 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

proxy assignment expiration I'm fully in support of

Alex M - clockwork08:38:33 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

that alone should get us started

R08:39:08 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

unless you solve voter apathy, vote expiration means that the status quo will only get stronger

Voter apathy isn't a reason to not encourage regular voting - we don't call off political elections despite low turn out.

Digital Lucife®08:39:54 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Yeah but proxy expiry will never be fair to all the proxies.

Alex M - clockwork08:40:07 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

murda_ra

Yeah but proxy expiry will never be fair to all the proxies.

why not?

Digital Lucife®08:40:22 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

There are proxies with 5 votes that are easy to get renewed and there are proxies with organic votes that will not that easy be renewed.

Digital Lucife®08:40:39 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

We could enable a lot more centralization doing so

Digital Lucife®08:40:59 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

like this at least you have some proxy to stand for the blockchain itself.

Alex M - clockwork08:41:01 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cmmob

Voter apathy isn't a reason to not encourage regular voting - we don't call off political elections despite low turn out.

didnt say we should....we already have regular voting

R08:41:15 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

If we went for standby witness pay then I'm sure there would be less of a call for expiring votes. As it stands its incredibly difficult to become an active witness & currently active witness roles aren't at enough risk to justify tackling voter apathy

Digital Lucife®08:41:53 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cmmob

Its not that difficult if you really can earn those funds.

Digital Lucife®08:42:19 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Most recent example: Zapata

R08:42:32 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

murda_ra

Most recent example: Zapata

Is zapata active?

Digital Lucife®08:42:37 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Not yet

Alex M - clockwork08:42:44 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

he probably will be soon enough

Alex M - clockwork08:42:56 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

i really wish people's gripes with voting are not driven by a desire to become active witnesses

Digital Lucife®08:42:56 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I believe so. He got so much things done and going

Digital Lucife®08:43:39 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

he probably will be soon enough

I believe so. He got so much things done and going

Alex M - clockwork08:43:55 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

people that actually provide value have no problems becomign active

R08:44:05 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

i really wish people's gripes with voting are not driven by a desire to become active witnesses

I have no desire to become an active witness, I do however have a distaste for permanent votes which will never change.

Alex M - clockwork08:44:14 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

bangzi being a recent example

R08:45:53 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

bangzi being a recent example

Of a non active witness? :p

Valera Cogut08:46:18 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

voting system maybe much more better: more powerful, more flexible ! cool tools give more power to community itself !

Digital Lucife®08:46:45 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cmmob

I have no desire to become an active witness, I do however have a distaste for permanent votes which will never change.

I have too. Don't get me wrong - when i spend time doing research on all proxies their supporters and such through explorers i've realised that 70% of it is fabricated. 30% organic.

Digital Lucife®08:47:01 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

That organic took years - that fabricated corporate funds and 3 clicks.

Digital Lucife®08:47:26 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

If we lose proxies and those corporate accounts get more by clicks while our abbandonded network with a lot of registered and very few active accounts

Digital Lucife®08:47:32 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

we can be screwed like Hell

Alex M - clockwork08:47:46 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cmmob

Of a non active witness?

of one that quickly became active due to quality

R08:47:53 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

A 4 year max vote length would be far fairer than permanent votes. If you can't get someone to re-vote for you every 4 years then perhaps you don't deserve the vote?

Digital Lucife®08:48:16 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

How to get someone who left the network and is not coming back ?

Alex M - clockwork08:48:19 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cmmob

A 4 year max vote length would be far fairer than permanent votes. If you can't get someone to re-vote for you every 4 years then perhaps you don't deserve the vote?

fair enough...

Alex M - clockwork08:48:31 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

we still have >year to go then :D

R08:48:41 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

of one that quickly became active due to quality

Ah.. I hadn't spotted that active witnesses has increased to 27 from like 14 last year?

R08:48:59 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

murda_ra

How to get someone who left the network and is not coming back ?

How to bring someone back from the dead?

Alex M - clockwork08:49:04 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cmmob

Ah.. I hadn't spotted that active witnesses has increased to 27 from like 14 last year?

a while now...we finally got some quality ones

R08:49:30 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

a while now...we finally got some quality ones

Surprisingly quiet change, good though 👍

Alex M - clockwork08:49:34 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and yes...once there were quality candidates , they got voted in...funny how that works

R08:50:17 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

and yes...once there were quality candidates , they got voted in...funny how that works

So there is no voter apathy then?

Alex M - clockwork08:51:32 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cmmob

So there is no voter apathy then?

there is....more people need to vote

Alex M - clockwork08:52:06 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

i was just commenting on whether the current situation is as bad as made out to be at times

Alex M - clockwork08:52:18 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and if it's a "closed-circle"

funkit08:52:38 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Bangzi is a bang on delegate. I like his style.

Alex M - clockwork08:52:48 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

agreed

Crypto Kong08:55:22 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

there was a new discussion on "locking" BTS used for voting

Interesting

Crypto Kong08:55:48 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cmmob

Frankly, nobody should hold permanent votes from deceased community members.

☝☝☝

Crypto Kong08:56:14 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Proxies should be forced to actively engage with their voters and voters to stay engaged

funkit08:56:25 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

And as R, I'm concerned about the possibility of dead voters. 4 years is way to long time. I'm corporate democracies 1 year is the norm. And I think it would be good to invigorate voters and provide stability

Alex M - clockwork08:56:47 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

Proxies should be forced to actively engage with their voters and voters to stay engaged

agreed...thats why i think its the best first step

R08:56:54 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

funkit

It was an extreme example, my bsip 22 covers different time frames iirc

Crypto Kong08:57:03 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

It would sort out the binance vote issue

R08:57:15 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

agreed...thats why i think its the best first step

But it's not enforceable by bts, that's a voluntary suggestion

Crypto Kong08:57:48 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Also accounts that loose access and remain voting but leave the ecosystem

Alex M - clockwork08:57:49 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cmmob

But it's not enforceable by bts, that's a voluntary suggestion

i mean expirign proxy assignments being the first step

funkit08:58:29 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I'm sceptic to locking up capital for the sole purpose of voting. It's so not dex...

R08:59:03 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

funkit

I'm sceptic to locking up capital for the sole purpose of voting. It's so not dex...

Yeah, I'm way more apprehensive about that approach than 22..despite writing up the bsip draft for the idea, lol

fav09:00:19 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

On eos you need to refresh your vote every 2 weeks, or your proxy

Valera Cogut09:00:39 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

favdesu

On eos you need to refresh your vote every 2 weeks, or your proxy

👌

Alex M - clockwork09:01:16 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Admittedly eos has made a huge deal out of voting

Alex M - clockwork09:01:24 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

To battle apathy

fav09:01:38 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

It's not the worst idea imo

Alex M - clockwork09:01:44 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I mean in terms of educating..not just forcing

Alex M - clockwork09:01:53 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Also, you vote for bps

fav09:01:54 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Yea

Alex M - clockwork09:02:17 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Here we have workers, witnesses and committee

Fabian Schuh09:02:36 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Surely, BitShares benefits *bigtime* from eos .. on many fronts

Alex M - clockwork09:02:43 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

To put it a different way

Alex M - clockwork09:03:05 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I'd go, expiring proxy assignments first

Alex M - clockwork09:03:17 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

With UI reminders

Alex M - clockwork09:03:54 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Voting platform for education and easier voting/monitoring

fav09:04:07 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

A decent explorer..

Alex M - clockwork09:04:11 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

And then touch expring votes

Alex M - clockwork09:04:43 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Just a priorities thing...not that I disagree in peinciple

Alex M - clockwork09:06:25 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

xeroc

Surely, BitShares benefits *bigtime* from eos .. on many fronts

true...

funkit09:07:46 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

There should be a page in UI that collected all proposals and listed all different proxy/committee and possibly a discussion board too.

Crypto Kong09:11:46 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Agree with you on all that alex

Crypto Kong09:11:58 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

funkit

There should be a page in UI that collected all proposals and listed all different proxy/committee and possibly a discussion board too.

Agreed

Alex M - clockwork09:13:28 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

there was a steemit post

Alex M - clockwork09:13:39 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

for EOS

Alex M - clockwork09:13:41 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

lemme find it

Alex M - clockwork09:14:35 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

hmmm steemit seems dead

funkit09:14:55 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

And in the future voice and video conferencing.

Alex M - clockwork09:15:18 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

https://steemit.com/eos/@eostribe/bringing-it-all-together-a-user-centered-approach-to-eos-voting

Alex M - clockwork09:15:41 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

https://steemit.com/eos/@eostribe/bringing-it-all-together-a-user-centered-approach-to-eos-voting

this needs to be done on bitshares

funkit09:15:50 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Would maybe kill bandwidth but would connect a scattered crowd

Alex M - clockwork09:19:07 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

funkit

And in the future voice and video conferencing.

Committee AMA

Alex M - clockwork09:19:18 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

thunderdome on steroids :P

funkit09:21:26 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

The thunder dome is in a sorry state.

funkit09:21:56 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Should be renamed gif dome

Konstantin09:25:20 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Rossul/GL team is considering to add scatter story to new UI. Really big thing.

Alex M - clockwork09:28:35 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

We were discussing the same with @abitmore last night

funkit09:29:10 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

You need a few more votes konstantin. You already got mine.

Alex M - clockwork09:29:11 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

But regardless of UI /exchange integration, already looking at adding bts support to it

Stefan Schießl09:29:24 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cptnSolo

Rossul/GL team is considering to add scatter story to new UI. Really big thing.

Scatter Story is merely allowing a REST-call requesting a signature, isn't it? BitShares Scatter integration is the big thing

Alex M - clockwork09:29:45 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

Scatter Story is merely allowing a REST-call requesting a signature, isn't it? BitShares Scatter integration is the big thing

Is it a different thing?

Alex M - clockwork09:29:51 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Hadn't realised

Stefan Schießl09:30:20 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

Is it a different thing?

I mean for the UI to use Scatter you need to implement a REST call to get a signature

Konstantin09:30:55 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

External key manager is the thing. Scatter is an “alias” :) and has its users

Alex M - clockwork09:31:20 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

what he said...moving key management to a companion app

Stefan Schießl09:31:23 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cptnSolo

External key manager is the thing. Scatter is an “alias” :) and has its users

Exactly, for the UI it's not a big deal really

Konstantin09:32:26 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Exact implementation is to be discussed. Scatter is not that simple for general user

Stefan Schießl09:33:31 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cptnSolo

Exact implementation is to be discussed. Scatter is not that simple for general user

For the BitShares UI you would have a button "User external tool" and instead of signing itself it would do a REST call to get the signature. How the external tool works is out of scope for UI worker

Konstantin09:35:51 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

This is what i call external key management. I have no idea what will be the name for this button :)))

Stefan Schießl09:36:31 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cptnSolo

This is what i call external key management. I have no idea what will be the name for this button :)))

Yes, my point is why is that a big discussion? For the UI it is quite simple

Konstantin09:39:02 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Usability. There is no simple way to vote our proposal now without 10step instructions. If one have the ability to embed a voting button to the proposal lending page - this would be a Big thing.

Stefan Schießl09:40:03 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cptnSolo

Usability. There is no simple way to vote our proposal now without 10step instructions. If one have the ability to embed a voting button to the proposal landing page - this would be a Big thing.

Well, that is different. So you don't think Scatter integration is a big thing, but a nice integration of voting within the UI?

Stefan Schießl09:40:15 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I'm unsure due to your wording

Stefan Schießl09:40:31 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cptnSolo

Usability. There is no simple way to vote our proposal now without 10step instructions. If one have the ability to embed a voting button to the proposal landing page - this would be a Big thing.

What is the proposal landing page?

Konstantin09:40:38 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I am not tech guy. Big thing for me is one that big for the ecosystem.

Konstantin09:41:18 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

What is the proposal landing page?

bitshares.rossul.com for example

Stefan Schießl09:41:49 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cptnSolo

Rossul/GL team is considering to add scatter story to new UI. Really big thing.

Let me rephrase: This does not need to be a discussion. The second there is an external signing tool I will enable voting through my voting widget and push that the current UI supports it

Alex M - clockwork09:42:53 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

Let me rephrase: This does not need to be a discussion. The second there is an external signing tool I will enable voting through my voting widget and push that the current UI supports it. And you guys should think that too :)

I'm working on it I promise...

Stefan Schießl09:43:22 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

I'm working on it I promise...

No stress, thanks for your efforts there!

Alex M - clockwork09:43:32 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

only bad thing is I'm cherry picking stuff out of scatter and keep needing to stop myself from going out of scope

Alex M - clockwork09:43:42 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

or I'll never get done

Alex M - clockwork09:43:56 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

hard to do though cause it's so well coded

Stefan Schießl09:43:57 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

only bad thing is I'm cherry picking stuff out of scatter and keep needing to stop myself from going out of scope

😁 Are you copying plugin or desktop now?

Alex M - clockwork09:44:09 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

😁 Are you copying plugin or desktop now?

desktop...codebase is a joy

Stefan Schießl09:44:33 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

desktop...codebase is a joy

Awesome! Why not fork it completely and integrate bitshares? then strip if necessary?

Stefan Schießl09:44:51 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Or do you mean cherry-picking what to support for bitshares.js inside of Scatter?

Alex M - clockwork09:45:09 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

Awesome! Why not fork it completely and integrate bitshares? then strip if necessary?

seems harder to do to reach a working prototype that way

Alex M - clockwork09:45:28 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I did ask zapata to look at it in the meantime

Alex M - clockwork09:46:12 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

Or do you mean cherry-picking what to support for bitshares.js inside of Scatter?

i mean cherry picking code...

Stefan Schießl09:46:28 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

seems harder to do to reach a working prototype that way

But isn't the main issue to have a bitshares.js that does the same as eos.js? Do you see other issues? Scatter is still coded as multi-chain application right?

Alex M - clockwork09:46:55 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

But isn't the main issue to have a bitshares.js that does the same as eos.js? Do you see other issues? Scatter is still coded as multi-chain application right? Or is it only EOS now?

yes....multichain

Stefan Schießl09:47:26 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

yes....multichain

Then I don't understand why you need cherry-picking at all.. not meant as critic, I simply havent looked into it

Alex M - clockwork09:48:02 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

as I said....a simple companion with getAccount/ signAndBroadcast calls seems much easier to get working

Alex M - clockwork09:48:14 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

than reimplementing everythign in the scatter plugin for bitshares

Alex M - clockwork09:48:31 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

at this juncture

Alex M - clockwork09:48:54 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

problem is it's so well done it's hard to stop cherry picking :D

Alex M - clockwork09:48:57 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

for example

Alex M - clockwork09:49:15 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I wasn't planning on storing the origin of the request

Alex M - clockwork09:49:33 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

so for example...if you visit voting.bitshares.works

Stefan Schießl09:49:38 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Is making a bitshares.js that is scatter compatible the hard part that you want to avoid?

Alex M - clockwork09:49:46 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and it requests access to your account.id

Alex M - clockwork09:50:05 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

you'd have to explicitly allow it every time

Alex M - clockwork09:50:47 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

then I see the code in scatter that handles remembering/forgetting sites youve given access to

Alex M - clockwork09:50:57 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and it feels like such a shame cutting it out :P

Alex M - clockwork09:51:18 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

Is making a bitshares.js that is scatter compatible the hard part that you want to avoid?

harder then a very simple prortype yes

Alex M - clockwork09:51:38 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

as long as I manage to STICK to a simple prorotype

Stefan Schießl09:52:37 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

harder then a very simple prortype yes

I would alreay be happy to have a jsonified sign method, as the UI and my voting widget can do all the rest (building transaction and broadcast)

Alex M - clockwork09:53:11 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

I would alreay be happy to have a jsonified sign method, as the UI and my voting widget can do all the rest (building transaction and broadcast)

my point exactly...that was the plan....it's just hard to stop myself from includign such cool code parts from scatter :P

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Thor11:28:32 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

In what region are witnesses centralised at?

Stefan Schießl11:29:11 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

dumblethor

In what region are witnesses centralised at?

Quite a lot are in China iirc

Thor11:34:57 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I have a highly equipped and reliable datacentre in Malta, and considering participating

Thor11:38:24 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

With a lot of centralised exchanges like Binance, Okex, etc coming to Malta, why not get some Bitshares activity too

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I could gaurantee 99.999% uptime with multiple links, autonomous subnet, redundant power, secure facilities, etc

Stefan Schießl13:05:37 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

That sounds great, and is a strong argument. To compete with the other witnesses you might need other ways to benefit the community as well

Thor13:13:15 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

That sounds great, and is a strong argument. To compete with the other witnesses you might need other ways to benefit the community as well

Indeed. I'll need to work hard in ensuring that my presence would add value to the network and community

kai ling13:29:20 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Hello,I want to know the ROI of staking

kai ling13:29:26 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Where can I get some data?

Thor13:31:15 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

lingkai0428

Hello,I want to know the ROI of staking

Proof of stake is used in electing which nodes would be block producers. These 'witnesses' earn a fixed reward per block they're allocated to produce

Thor13:31:32 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

So there's no ROI in the way you're thinking

kai ling13:34:27 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Can I have some details about it?

kai ling13:35:11 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

For example, how can I be selected as witnesses?

Thor13:36:01 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I can't post links but search for the 'Delegated Proof-of-Stake Consensus' on bitshares[dot]org

kai ling13:36:52 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thank you very much. BTS uses DPOS?

Thor13:37:25 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

lingkai0428

Thank you very much. BTS uses DPOS?

Yes, no problem :)

kai ling13:38:16 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I thought it was just POS

kai ling13:38:23 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

😂

Valera Cogut13:40:02 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

guys what do you think about adding such simple feature in BitShares as - WEIGHT for VOTE ?

kai ling13:40:16 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

@dumblethor Where can I check the list of the current "Elected Witnesses"?

Valera Cogut13:40:36 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

do we need weights for votes ?

kai ling13:40:58 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Where can I check the list of "Elected Witnesses"?We want to be one of them.

da Lexx13:41:49 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

VOTE:https://twitter.com/BitsharesTV/status/1027865247196086272

Valera Cogut13:41:51 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

go to wallet.bitshares.org -> RIGHT UPPER corner button (MENU) -> VOTE -> WITNESSES Tab

kai ling13:43:22 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thanks

Valera Cogut13:43:44 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

welcome !

Praveen13:56:10 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

https://goo.gl/NvWMuW

Valera Cogut14:09:12 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

also active witnesses you can see here: https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/explorer/witnesses

bitcoin sir14:17:03 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

http://latestnews9ow.blogspot.com/2018/08/elaborate-bitcoin-bitconnect-scam-nets.html

Hairy Canary14:46:38 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

..where find info re "target collateral ratio" new feature... I looked in help section but don't see it... v interested in using this new feature... Thanks.

Valera Cogut14:48:48 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

read bsip 38 on github

Valera Cogut14:49:17 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/blob/master/bsip-0038.md

Hairy Canary14:53:06 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

thank you.

Valera Cogut14:53:26 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

welcome !

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Hairy Canary15:13:11 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sisedes_nonis

..in crypto?? I used to trade stock options... can get a bit wild, but not as fast pace as this crypto market..

Gabriele15:14:06 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

hairycanary

..in crypto?? I used to trade stock options... can get a bit wild, but not as fast pace as this crypto market..

No we use binary options to trade the forex market

Gabriele15:14:21 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I offer an extremely easy to follow strategy

Hairy Canary15:16:03 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

....probably need more disposable capital than I'd feel comfortable with losing rn, but yes still interested in learning... i'm retired, so I have the time...and inclination... you can pm me when you have time and start me learning..thank you.

Hairy Canary15:22:02 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

...OK kinda read through it... more what I need is the simple step by step instructions.. I'd like to target at 1.95 CR.... how do that... I am afraid to push any buttons before I am sure wht will happen!.. i'm an old dog tryin to learn new tricks... not easy for me.

Hairy Canary15:23:58 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

so.. how step by step do I set target CR to 1.95...? thank you for taking time to explian to me... its just for safety sake... this may be a whacky weekend comin up...

nomoreheroes715:25:12 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

hairycanary

so.. how step by step do I set target CR to 1.95...? thank you for taking time to explian to me... its just for safety sake... this may be a whacky weekend comin up...

Just go to the borrow USD screen, check the box at the bottom for target collateral ratio, enter 1.95, and update

Hairy Canary15:25:46 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

nomoreheroes7

Just go to the borrow USD screen, check the box at the bottom for target collateral ratio, enter 1.95, and update

sounds good... Thanks!

nomoreheroes715:26:03 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Might give you an error, in that case also move some BTS to/from collateral with the update...was a bug as of yesterday

Hairy Canary15:26:19 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Hairy Canary15:29:31 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

...twice = failed to broadcast...??

nomoreheroes715:31:04 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Hmm...that sounds more like a node issue. Not sure.

Hairy Canary15:35:44 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

...will try again... usually don't have much node issues during daytime here western canada... it starts when china wakes up and trading there ramps up... then much node out of syncs here for me...

Hairy Canary15:38:03 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

get this message: Failed to broadcast the transaction: Assert Exception: delta_collateral.amount != 0 || delta_debt.amount != 0:

nomoreheroes715:40:21 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

hairycanary

get this message: Failed to broadcast the transaction: Assert Exception: delta_collateral.amount != 0 || delta_debt.amount != 0:

Yup, that's the one I saw when I tried to set the target ratio without moving collateral at the same time. It's a bug. Try moving collateral too.

Alderich16:40:46 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cross ready

Hairy Canary17:02:16 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

nomoreheroes7

Yup, that's the one I saw when I tried to set the target ratio without moving collateral at the same time. It's a bug. Try moving collateral too.

OK... will try that...

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Hairy Canary18:43:13 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Please clarify, thank you: When I go to BitsharesOrg website and choose go to Exchange it puts me to version "bitshares.180808".. but somebody said this is not the latest version... is that so? ...what is link to the newest version, if indeed I am using an older version? ...or does that make any difference at all? ..still learning! thank you... i am a very active trader ( in bts, not much liquidity in any other on DEX) so maybe I really should be using the newest version.. Thanks for any informed replies.

Alex M - clockwork18:43:53 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

hairycanary

It is the latest

Valera Cogut18:44:57 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/releases look here all versions, the latest from top

Valera Cogut18:46:46 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

on github you can find all required info, like releases, source code, bsips, documentation, issues, discussions and much more 😉also forum is great info for you !

Hairy Canary18:47:23 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

It is the latest

perfect... thank you.

Hairy Canary18:49:29 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

valeracogut

https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/releases look here all versions, the latest from top

Great, n Thank you... I will gradually try to absorb this stuff... its A LOT for an old dog to learn...

Valera Cogut18:50:20 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

hairycanary

Great, n Thank you... I will gradually try to absorb this stuff... its A LOT for an old dog to learn...

welcome ! 👍don't be scary about that great stuff 😊 just find the answer there if you will need it later 😉

Valera Cogut18:51:36 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

here are all BSIPs https://github.com/bitshares/bsips

Valera Cogut18:53:30 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

look README , look other repositories in BitShares organization also, so it may be very helpful for you later 😉 look in each project/repo are issues tab also

Valera Cogut18:54:22 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

https://github.com/bitshares here you can see the list of all BitShares repositories/projects

Hairy Canary18:56:14 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

valeracogut

welcome ! 👍don't be scary about that great stuff 😊 just find the answer there if you will need it later 😉

...looks like full time job! ..will pick away at it.. Thanks for directing me to these answers... very helpful..

Valera Cogut18:56:37 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

hairycanary

...looks like full time job! ..will pick away at it.. Thanks for directing me to these answers... very helpful..

np 😉👍welcome !

Valera Cogut18:57:20 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

BitShares has a lot of repositories on github 😊 a lot of source code, documentation, issues and much more 😊

Valera Cogut18:58:09 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

hairycanary

...looks like full time job! ..will pick away at it.. Thanks for directing me to these answers... very helpful..

workers work every day, every hour, every minute 😊not full-time job 😊 because it is 24/24 job 😊

0x7DB 🇳🇬19:52:56 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Will the proposed bakkt exchange by Intercontinental exchange make bitshares exchange obsolete?

John Jones19:55:38 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

centralized exchange vs decentralized exchange. My Magic 8 Ball says "No".

R19:55:41 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

ageosys

Will the proposed bakkt exchange by Intercontinental exchange make bitshares exchange obsolete?

prposals don't have shit against production systems

0x7DB 🇳🇬20:01:43 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

jmjatlanta

centralized exchange vs decentralized exchange. My Magic 8 Ball says "No".

That's the biggest difference

fav20:04:26 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

lol

fav20:04:33 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

yes, bitshares is ded

fav20:05:37 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

paypal killed it :(

R20:41:57 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

favdesu

yes, bitshares is ded

Lol, somebody is holding bitusd... ;D

JonnyB22:51:49 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Time to borrow some bitusd and spend it on BTS

Louis C23:01:47 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Mylimbsarelong

Time to borrow some bitusd and spend it on BTS

I hope you’re right

Harry23:13:45 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Hairy Canary23:23:36 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Freyasmith

Hi you too

Humpty Dumpty23:30:26 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Let's play a game

Humpty Dumpty23:30:31 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

How low

Humpty Dumpty23:30:35 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Will it go

Sam Hamilton23:30:46 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Hey everyone just a heads up UNIC coin is about to have a big increase due to an atomic swap release of the new gamma. Buy some on cryptopia using btc for the best price

Humpty Dumpty23:30:48 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Humpty Dumpty23:31:04 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

How much, will it dive?

Humpty Dumpty23:31:12 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Anyone interested?

Jonny Baywatch23:46:33 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

ashcharyachakit

Anyone interested?

3600

da Lexx23:48:46 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

ashcharyachakit

Will it go

5.7k

Josh Mayer23:48:55 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

JonnyBaywatch

3600

I am

Josh Mayer23:49:05 - 10 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Text me thanks

Hairy Canary00:04:11 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

...nawww.. back up to 6200 over next hour...

funkit00:13:19 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Please move the price speculation to a designated fora. Thank you.

Chris00:45:05 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

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Grany ways02:49:34 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

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Grany ways02:52:33 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

加入我這個社區，並開始製作50％每btc是真的沒有假的沒有騙局，消息得到更新和信息

燕

燕子03:02:18 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

有中文版群吗

Grany ways03:03:42 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

燕子

有中文版群吗

是全球的

Grany ways03:09:53 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

給我發私信，以獲取群聊和註冊鏈接

Valera Cogut03:22:45 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Admin please remove scam and spam or make me admin please and I will do it))

Grany ways03:28:18 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

hmm keep thinking is scam and i know some exchange platform they are still far better of

funkit03:52:31 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

燕子

有中文版群吗

For Chinese: https://t.me/BitSharesDEXcn

Omar04:49:15 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

why can't i transfer collateral to normal account anymore? i want to sell some margin to derisk my margin position but getting following error. it was possible previously. "Assert Exception: itr->get_balance() >= -delta: Insufficient Balance: *******'s balance of 899.0857 CNY is less than required 900 CNY"

Hairy Canary04:55:23 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

paathi

you are just a little bit short of 900 cny.. sell 1 bts and boost your available cny to just above 900.. should work then...

funkit04:55:37 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Subtract 1 cny and make it 899.

Hairy Canary04:56:22 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

...that tooo would work.. looks like he short a wee bit of cny...

Omar04:57:39 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

funkit

Subtract 1 cny and make it 899.

but i want to sell collateral to convert it into more CNYs and decrease my debt. it was how i was used to do it before last update came to the DEX.

funkit04:58:52 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Well you have to release the collateral before you can sell it.

Omar04:59:13 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

that is what i am trying to do.

Omar04:59:28 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

or maybe i am doing it the wrong way.

funkit05:00:10 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

No you just tried to pay back more debt than you had available in cny

Omar05:01:25 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

okei. i think i got it now.

funkit05:03:59 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

There is a helpful little command in that dialogue called pay max debt. It's useful when there is many decimals

kevin dolgopups08:10:00 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Привет, как долго ждать открытия депозита XDNA?

kevin dolgopups08:10:44 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Hi, how long wait open deposit XDNA?

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Stefan Schießl09:07:02 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

kevin dolgopups

Hi, how long wait open deposit XDNA?

Please ask the respective gateways

kevin dolgopups09:15:29 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

How i can make it?

fav09:29:30 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

https://steemit.com/bitshares/@mrkt.cash/dynamic-exchange-rates-on-mrkt-cash

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Wole Babayeju - EOS Go10:07:54 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

anyone here?

Crypto Kong10:08:14 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

anything i can help with? whats your problem?

Wole Babayeju - EOS Go10:17:34 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

i seem to have some bts missing

Wole Babayeju - EOS Go10:23:24 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

did u say u can help?

R10:49:30 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Wole_Babayeju

did u say u can help?

you're responsible for your own account & there's no centralized role to reverse actions on the dex (unless uia are involved potentially)

Alessio Rastani11:02:17 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

What is the problem wole?

Crypto Kong11:03:30 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

ive spoken to him, not a happy end ending lets leave it at that :(

Alessio Rastani11:05:00 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

What wrong?

Crypto Kong11:05:57 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

scam coins claimed another victim

Stefan Schießl11:16:11 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

scam coins claimed another victim

Details?

Crypto Kong11:19:42 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

Details?

Ill pm you

Antony Antony11:32:53 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

buying 2 btc

Aeron Martyn11:54:12 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

scam coins claimed another victim

We're all responsible for our actions

Crypto Kong11:55:33 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I agree but these coins scare people away from the ecosystem and lower usage of the blockchain :(

Golden fx11:56:26 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

is it possible btc going 500-0??or bankcrup??

Christoph11:59:43 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

How can i hide the burn button?

Crypto Kong12:05:48 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

close the dex lol

Crypto Kong12:06:04 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

turn monitor off?

Crypto Kong12:06:10 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

go for a walk?

Crypto Kong12:06:13 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

lol

Christoph12:12:47 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thx. That worked out.

Crypto Kong12:13:41 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

😁

Christoph12:21:15 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

The best button for the new GUI.

Stefan Schießl12:25:10 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

christophzzz

The best button for the new GUI.

What are the things that annoy you?

승이

승민 이12:27:33 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Where is bottom?

Humpty Dumpty12:36:37 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

There's is no bottom

Crypto Kong12:39:42 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

What are the things that annoy you?

With the new customisable tabs you have to select an asset. I wouod like to be able to create more custom tabs like "other" where i can add any pairings

Stefan Schießl12:51:14 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

With the new customisable tabs you have to select an asset. I would like to be able to create more custom tabs like "other" where i can add any pairings and id like to be able to rename the tabs

You mean in my Markets?

Crypto Kong12:55:37 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

You mean in my Markets?

Yeah on the exchange page

Useraddr15:14:24 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Hello

Lucky Smith15:47:34 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Agboola Olawumi17:40:33 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Hello

Thule 36918:18:57 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

US Commitee account was today at 1.82

Crypto Kong18:20:30 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

it should never have had such a small ratio

Crypto Kong18:21:07 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

it should have had a fixed call price that was discussed and agreed on, my suggestion was 1 cent but i would have been ok with anything under 5 cents

Thule 36918:21:16 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cny trader account was at 1.89

Fabian Schuh18:23:52 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Funding to fix that is on the way ..

Thule 36918:24:40 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and what consequences for the people who lead to that ?

Thule 36918:24:49 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

bitcrab,jademont and ebit ?

Thule 36918:24:55 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

any changes at all

Thule 36918:25:52 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

or do they have a free ticket to do what they prefer themself ?

Thule 36918:26:12 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

i still see there no info

Thule 36918:26:25 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

how it will go on

Thule 36918:26:36 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

no transparancy no info no clear rules no nothing

Thule 36918:27:25 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

always silence when this question appear

Inspector Gadget18:28:27 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Usual shitshow again. When will ppl ever learn.

Inspector Gadget18:28:48 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I warned the usd and cny accounts will one day be misused. Also mismanaged.

Inspector Gadget18:28:56 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Great job committee.

Inspector Gadget18:29:05 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I feel great I shorted bts.

Inspector Gadget18:29:24 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Shows a lot of confidence in bts

Inspector Gadget18:30:50 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

The western side of bts has no influence on bts price anyways. So I guess. Whatever gets done or said here doesn’t really matter anyways.

Thule 36918:31:24 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

commitee compremised themself too.Didn't controled ratio and now they keep silent without informing about anything what will be done and which rules for trading accounts are actually up to date. Just big silence with a comment it will be handled behind closed doors...... Thats what a decentralised community do

Inspector Gadget18:32:22 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

The committee trading accounts are a form of market manipulation and benefits a the committee and insiders with info before going g to committee

Thule 36918:32:35 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

biggest disapointment is xeroc who is making everything possible for bitcrab and not giving any comment

Inspector Gadget18:33:06 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I just want to congratulate the committee on a another job well done.

Hairy Canary18:34:06 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

..harr deee harrr harr.. lol.. yepper, Sir.

Crypto Kong18:35:25 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

xeroc

Funding to fix that is on the way ..

sounds like a bailout

Thule 36918:36:06 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

xeroc

Funding to fix that is on the way ..

more wasting of funds for that stupid buy wall ....... What a waste of resources and the next steps from bitcrab are already been advertised at the forum. Maybe someone can explain to me why bitcrab doesn't want to give the cny trader account away like it was proposed by abit who btw seems to be the only commitee who tries to fix it for the community

Crypto Kong18:38:04 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

bitcrab can be removed from the USD account easily and should be. that would be a start.

Thule 36918:38:36 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

sounds like a bailout, how many more will be needed?

bailout ?What ?Bitcrab is talking already about next buywalls at 0.75 CNY .......Oh wait it was broken today.......

VIKTOR18:38:53 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

3btc available

Crypto Kong18:39:27 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Then it should be managed properly with a low call price instead of setting fixed ratios. It should be managed by people without the appearance of a confilct of interest.

Crypto Kong18:40:14 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

bailout ?What ?Bitcrab is talking already about next buywalls at 0.75 CNY .......Oh wait it was broken today.......

Its badly managed I agree

VIKTOR18:43:48 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

3btc available

Crypto Kong18:43:51 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

If the commitee dont feel confident in managing the USD account there are other members of the community they can consult with and we could even vote on decisions and make them public. Might sound crazy but your not alone. We are a community and many are willing to help out.

Thule 36918:44:34 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

Then it should be managed properly with a low fixed call price instead of setting target ratios. It should be managed by people without the appearance of a confilct of interest.

you won't see ever that bitcrab will admit that he fucked up. Now he tries to make shorterns on external exchanges responsible . I guess today they were also responsible that he was margin called even the BTS price on DEX was always way lower than on external exchanges. Would love to see him if we would now add the price of DEX to the feed price based on volume. He would instantly protest no more claiming we make most volume

Crypto Kong18:45:28 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

It doesnt have to be bitcrabs way or nothing, it is obvious many commitee members are not keen on how this fund is being managed. So why not discuss other options, engage with the community. Do whats right and try and show the chinese how it should be done by doing right by the USD account.

Crypto Kong18:47:02 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

you won't see ever that bitcrab will admit that he fucked up. Now he tries to make shorteners on external exchanges responsible . I guess today they were also responsible that he was margin called even the BTS price on DEX was always way lower than on external exchanges. Would love to see him if we would now add the price of DEX to the feed price based on volume. He would instantly protest and instantly stop claiming we make most volume

I dont care if he admits fault or not. He can be removed easily from USD multi sig. He should be removed. The account should be managed by other people. It should be managed properly and we should be showing how it should be done, rather than his reckless gambling.

Thule 36918:48:10 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

there is no commitee member who would accept these accounts

Thule 36918:49:19 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and bitcrab not willing to give away the cny trader account based on his chinese posts when google translated t correctly

John Robert18:51:07 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

Agree

Crypto Kong18:51:20 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

there is no commitee member who would accept these accounts

This is why i suggest engaging with us, the community. Realising their weakneses if this is not something they specialise in. We are here to help.

Thule 36918:51:43 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

they would need to start communicating

Thule 36918:51:56 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

you see here any communication about that topic ?

Crypto Kong18:51:59 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Theyre not all as bad as you make out lol

Crypto Kong18:52:10 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

no but im hopeful things can change lol

Thule 36918:52:32 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

majority of commitee are against the way bitcrab is handling it

Crypto Kong18:52:42 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

well actually... xeroc abit and alex have all been involved in this conversation in this room to be fair

Thule 36918:52:46 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

but still there is no communication from them

Thule 36918:52:57 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and key member in my opinion is xeroc

Thule 36918:53:34 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

xeroc and alex defending bitcrab

Thule 36918:53:43 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

abit not happy about the situation

Crypto Kong18:54:49 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

as far as i have seen they have defended against accusations of manipulation. which is fair enough. I still think he should be removed to avoid this appearance of conflict of interest. As for mismanagement of the fund it seems to me there are a few who agree

Inspector Gadget18:54:52 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Lol. You guys are the bees gang. They don’t consider you or me part of the community.

Inspector Gadget18:54:55 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Wake up ppl.

Inspector Gadget18:55:03 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Your barking means nothing.

Thule 36918:55:44 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

also ebit and jademont who approved as commitee these low ratio

Thule 36918:55:54 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

what do they get for breaking the consenus?

Thule 36918:56:24 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

here a post from ebit to abit Do not agree to substitution. Although Cancer is very aggressive, there are many risks. However, as Cancer said, it is not known that the public funds and spring are not a family. keeping defending to remove bitcrab

Crypto Kong18:56:36 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Unfortunatly its down to the community to vote them out as commitee members.

Thule 36918:57:19 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

shouldn't the other inform the community about it ? There is such a big silence on that topic

funkit18:57:41 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

Unfortunatly its down to the community to vote them out as commitee members or end support for the worker

You mean fortunately I assume

Crypto Kong18:58:18 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

No i mean unfortunatly because the voting system is no good

funkit18:58:39 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Make a bsip to fix it

Crypto Kong18:59:12 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I believe its already being adresses, alex mentioned it the other day about decaying votes

Crypto Kong19:00:08 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I think decaying proxy votes would be really good for bitshares

funkit19:00:20 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

It's been on the agenda over a year. Don't remember the number but @cmmob wrote it

Crypto Kong19:00:42 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Yeah nothing happens quickly unfortunatly

R19:00:54 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/blob/master/bsip-0022.md

funkit19:02:11 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I'm actually optimistic it will be implemented when I see the number of bsips being pulled lately

Crypto Kong19:02:32 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cmmob

https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/blob/master/bsip-0022.md

cool thanks

Crypto Kong19:03:04 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

funkit

I'm actually optimistic it will be implemented when I see the number of bsips being pulled lately

i hope so it would force proxies wanting to maintain their weight to engage more

funkit19:04:18 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

The best is a engaged community.

Crypto Kong19:04:45 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

imagine all the arguments we could have if we were all properly engaged lol

Thule 36919:05:20 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

here what xeroc posted to bitcrab a month ago "I had to refuse that because that is not how BBF deals with the workers and undermines the high standards and transparency there" " however, I would like to see if we can find a solution where another independent party deals with OMO."

Thule 36919:05:29 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

what has changed during a month ?

Thule 36919:05:31 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

nothing

Thule 36919:05:49 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and am also asking where is the high standard of transarency

funkit19:06:41 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

what has changed during a month ?

Well you got an answer from xeroc further up.

Stefan Schießl19:08:05 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

funkit

I'm actually optimistic it will be implemented when I see the number of bsips being pulled lately

BSIPs require just like proposals heavy iteration and attention. I'm currently writing a new BSIP for custom active authorities and it's quite demanding but also worthwhile

Crypto Kong19:08:48 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

BSIPs require just like proposals heavy iteration and attention. I'm currently writing a new BSIP for custom active authorities and it's quite demanding but also worthwhile

sounds interesting, care to explain a bit more?

funkit19:08:53 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cool, Stefan. I look forward to read it

Thule 36919:09:33 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

funkit

Well you got an answer from xeroc further up.

you mean that funding is on its way ?

funkit19:09:52 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Yes. That one

Thule 36919:10:33 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

that has nothing to do with transparency or a soltution that somebody else controls the OMO

Stefan Schießl19:10:52 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

funkit

Cool, Stefan. I look forward to read it

https://github.com/sschiessl-bcp/bsips/blob/patch-1/bsip-0040.md Here is the version, discussion is in pull request. I think we will be able to merge that soon and polish it

fav19:14:03 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

What the actual fuck. The committee shouldve never dealt with money. Instead of blaming the role (we're janitors), start voting for better fits

Mr. Shobi19:14:24 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

When was this product ann on social media and is that y bts went to .23

Mr. Shobi19:15:23 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Wrong place

Alex M - clockwork19:17:06 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

sounds interesting, care to explain a bit more?

it's so so SO good...no other chain has anything close to similar

Crypto Kong19:17:21 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

reading now!

Thule 36919:17:40 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

favdesu

What the actual fuck. The committee shouldve never dealt with money. Instead of blaming the role (we're janitors), start voting for better fits

I asked xeroc to cancel his vote for OMO or get another party to control it who is not related to bitcrab....... But he keeps silent and defends bitcrab

Crypto Kong19:21:03 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

https://github.com/sschiessl-bcp/bsips/blob/patch-1/bsip-0040.md Here is the draft version, discussion is in pull request. I think we will be able to merge that soon and polish it

very interesting

fav19:21:24 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

I asked xeroc to cancel his vote for OMO or get another party to control it who is not related to bitcrab....... But he keeps silent and defends bitcrab and refusing to cancel his vote

Individuals don't make the committee

funkit19:22:08 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

it's so so SO good...no other chain has anything close to similar

I believe nem is about to launch something in this vein. But this seems more comprehensive

Thule 36919:22:32 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

but if i'm not mistaken his voting power could instantly stop OMO

Alex M - clockwork19:22:46 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

funkit

I believe nem is about to launch something in this vein. But this seems more comprehensive

i hate nem

Crypto Kong19:23:00 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

For account security/ key customisation to really have an affect on the greater security. The whole process would need to be made a lot easier and noob friendly though but it certainly opens up a lot of options

Alex M - clockwork19:23:00 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

price mmanipulated to hell

Alex M - clockwork19:23:22 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

meh..the bsip discussion is for core....

Alex M - clockwork19:23:33 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

UI discussion about it will start if acccepted/voted in

Crypto Kong19:23:45 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

good point

Alex M - clockwork19:24:39 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

very interesting

also this: https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-core/issues/1182 ...much more raw/preliminary...but some potential there too

Thule 36919:25:08 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

but if i'm not mistaken his voting power could instantly stop OMO

and voting for that OMO makes him also responsible that its handled well

Fabian Schuh19:25:45 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

what has changed during a month ?

A week != a month In fact, gregorian calendar has 4(!) weeks in a month

Crypto Kong19:26:05 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

also this: https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-core/issues/1182 ...much more raw/preliminary...but some potential there too

yeah thats cool i like that idea

Thule 36919:26:47 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

xeroc

A week != a month In fact, gregorian calendar has 4(!) weeks in a month

all you have to say about that topic ?

Fabian Schuh19:27:06 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

all you have to say about that topic ?

All I have to say to you

Thule 36919:27:33 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

i haven't seen you wrote to any community member about it in public

Thule 36919:27:59 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

your comment its handled behind closed doors

Thule 36919:28:14 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

thats transparency

Fabian Schuh19:28:46 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thats an assumption .. As like 80% of what you say here

Thule 36919:29:02 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

you can proof me wrong showing a link

Thule 36919:29:13 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and i stop that topic

Fabian Schuh19:29:39 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

You wanted to stop yesterday and write a blogpost about it .. Where is that?

Thule 36919:30:44 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

its on its way... a proof reader is working currently on it since english is not my nativ language and i don't like posting something public with a lot of mistakes

Thule 36919:30:59 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

but as i said you can proof me wrong and i will instantly stop

Fabian Schuh19:31:43 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Well then, why keep ranting here? Feels like waste of your precious time

Thule 36919:32:07 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

why don't you show me a single link and the topic is closed?

Carsten19:36:11 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

https://github.com/sschiessl-bcp/bsips/blob/patch-1/bsip-0040.md Here is the draft version, discussion is in pull request. I think we will be able to merge that soon and polish it

isn’t that asked too much? i mean expecting users to configure and handle lots of keys properly? wouldn’t there be a way instead to refactor the web wallets that transactions are signed offline/in-browser, and no key is sent to server?

Alex M - clockwork19:36:44 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

carstennn

no key is sent to server as it is now

Carsten19:36:56 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

no key is sent to server as it is now

then why is there an issue?

Thule 36919:37:06 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

xeroc

Well then, why keep ranting here? Feels like waste of your precious time

giving you the opportunity to make me look bad and closing that topic....

Carsten19:37:07 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and what was the ol issue then

Alex M - clockwork19:37:11 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

this is to add flexibility...and again...the BSIP is about the core implementation

Alex M - clockwork19:37:24 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

not the UX/UI of it

Carsten19:37:30 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

it says because of hacked web wallets

Alex M - clockwork19:38:18 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

carstennn

it says because of hacked web wallets

because it increases security overall

Alex M - clockwork19:38:32 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

amongst other things

Carsten19:39:05 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sounds more like obscurity

Alex M - clockwork19:39:14 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

carstennn

sounds more like obscurity

nah

Alex M - clockwork19:39:40 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

you could for example have your main key in cold storage somewhere, nowhere near a computer

Alex M - clockwork19:40:03 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and use a key with the wallet that only allows trading on certain markets up to a certain amount

Crypto Kong19:40:17 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

i really like that idea

Carsten19:40:23 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

mhk

Alex M - clockwork19:40:41 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

it really opens up a lot of possible use cases

Crypto Kong19:40:49 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and i was about to say its all very well having a trading key but if the hacker can create an asset and buy it its pointless, the ability to restrict to certain market i like a lot

Carsten19:40:59 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

still it requires users to understand that... and those that handle keys properly, usually don’t have issues

Fabian Schuh19:41:06 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

and use a key with the wallet that only allows trading on certain markets up to a certain amount

There is more to it

Alex M - clockwork19:41:16 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

as i said

Alex M - clockwork19:41:18 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

for example

Crypto Kong19:41:19 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

carstennn

still it requires users to understand that... and those that handle keys properly, usually don’t have issues

alex already mentioned this is a core issue

Crypto Kong19:41:30 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

the ui stuff will be discussed if it passes

Fabian Schuh19:41:31 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

For instance, the bbf cam use the new feature to ensure it can use zransger only to escrow (from worker account)

Crypto Kong19:41:46 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

but i agree, needs to be user friendly, more so than at the moment

Fabian Schuh19:41:52 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

That enables worker management ro have keys online without fear of being hacked

Alex M - clockwork19:42:21 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

its good for witnesses too

Alex M - clockwork19:42:28 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

special key for pricefeeds only...

Fabian Schuh19:42:32 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Alao gateways!

Alex M - clockwork19:42:40 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

many many cases

Crypto Kong19:42:48 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

i guess it allows for better account management and delegation of tasks to other users with peace of mind they will not over step boundaries

Alex M - clockwork19:42:58 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

i guess it allows for better account management and delegation of tasks to other users with peace of mind they will not over step boundaries

yes...

Crypto Kong19:43:08 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

its a really cool idea, i like it a lot

Alex M - clockwork19:43:10 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

combine it with my scripting idea and it gets very interesting :)

Alex M - clockwork19:43:25 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

(blatantly campaigning for support :P )

Crypto Kong19:43:26 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

oh yeah forgot bout that one

Crypto Kong19:43:30 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

lol

Crypto Kong19:44:10 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

so give us an example or two of how your scripting idea would be put to good use on its own and in combination with the keys idea

Crypto Kong19:44:24 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

if you want our support 😜

Thule 36919:45:15 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

giving you the opportunity to make me look bad and closing that topic....

so i guess you want me to keep being arround 😄

Fabian Schuh19:45:16 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

... And put those examples into the bsip :)

Alex M - clockwork19:45:28 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

it's mostly useful for delegation like you said

Alex M - clockwork19:45:47 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

if you read towards the end of that issue

Alex M - clockwork19:46:07 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I mention how various script functions can be called by the script owner

Carsten19:46:16 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

good we discussed that and distracted from the outrage

Alex M - clockwork19:46:53 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

since those functions are parameters to a call_script_method op they can be used as asserts in a custom auth...

Alex M - clockwork19:47:13 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

so , same script...but different accounts can access/use different methods

Carsten19:48:06 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

complexity in security has always proven to be best way to go :)

Alex M - clockwork19:48:16 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

carstennn

complexity in security has always proven to be best way to go :)

hah

Crypto Kong19:48:24 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

i think i dont know enough about scripts to see the bigger picture here, its my understanding that scripts are written in order to automate things

Alex M - clockwork19:48:36 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

i think i dont know enough about scripts to see the bigger picture here, its my understanding that scripts are written in order to automate things

exactly...

Alex M - clockwork19:48:59 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

this is on-chain though

Crypto Kong19:49:23 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

ok cool so you could potentially setup a regular payment system or something

Alex M - clockwork19:49:40 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

that too yes

Crypto Kong19:49:47 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

or like a regular buy BTS at 10 cents

Alex M - clockwork19:50:19 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

if you go back to the original concepts of bitshares as a platform for dacs

Alex M - clockwork19:50:24 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

it gets very interesting

Alex M - clockwork19:50:32 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

you have one account

Alex M - clockwork19:50:50 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

from which salaries are paid out, different teams can have different budgets

Alex M - clockwork19:51:03 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

different accounts controlling different variables

Carsten19:51:10 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

where can i subscribe?

Carsten19:51:17 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

i want a budget

Crypto Kong19:51:27 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

yeah very interesting

Alex M - clockwork19:51:50 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

so say the CEO accoutn can increase the amount a department can withdraw monthly , other accounts have other permissions etc.

Alex M - clockwork19:52:20 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

if (balance>target) Distribute_bonuses() etc.

Alex M - clockwork19:52:32 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

loads of stuff you can do

Crypto Kong19:52:39 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

so my next question... how do we get more people into bitshares to build all this stuff lol

Alex M - clockwork19:53:02 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

so my next question... how do we get more people into bitshares to build all this stuff lol

dev portal :)

Crypto Kong19:53:33 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

i have no idea what a dev portal is lol

Thule 36919:54:10 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

dev portal :)

Do you maybe know if fees paid for external assets are also counted by DEX?

Stefan Schießl19:55:27 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

carstennn

complexity in security has always proven to be best way to go :)

The backend should be flexible, not necessairily complex. In either case, the UI needs to provide noob-friendly button to set those custom authorities up, and I do my best to ensure that happens (if voted :) )

Alex M - clockwork19:55:31 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

i have no idea what a dev portal is lol

https://www.stellar.org/developers/

Alex M - clockwork19:55:50 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

Do you maybe know if fees paid for external assets are also counted by DEX?

not quite sure I understand what you mean

Alex M - clockwork19:56:14 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

gateway assets? like open.BTC ? and counted in what way?

Thule 36919:56:43 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

DEX is showing lifetime fees spend so it must count the fee's you are paying when you trade.I would like to know if DEX also counts fee's for external assets which are collected by gateways like OL or gdex

Crypto Kong19:56:51 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

https://www.stellar.org/developers/

oh i see, so we could do with a worker proposal to create one of these for bitshares?

Alex M - clockwork19:57:06 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

this too: https://www.stellar.org/how-it-works/powered-by-stellar/

Alex M - clockwork19:57:31 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

oh i see, so we could do with a worker proposal to create one of these for bitshares?

its already funded/worked on

Crypto Kong19:57:41 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

good stuff

Alex M - clockwork19:57:52 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

design/domain etc is presentation worker

Alex M - clockwork19:58:02 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

content is documentation worker

Alex M - clockwork19:58:22 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and a bit of tooling input by core worker as well as community submissions

Crypto Kong19:58:59 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

ok cool nice ill have a quick look at some of them

Crypto Kong19:59:17 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thanks for all the info, interesting stuff

Alex M - clockwork19:59:20 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

no...lifeteem fees paid as a statistic refers to network fees only i think

Carsten19:59:55 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

no worries, just joking :)

Stefan Schießl20:01:29 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

carstennn

no worries, just joking :)

It's important and needs to be addressed. I feel confident in it, also because two of the main core devs have already reviewed and have signaled a go

Hairy Canary20:03:57 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Inspect0r_gadget

Lol. You guys are the bees gang. They don’t consider you or me part of the community.

Here, here..yep.

Carsten20:08:30 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

It's important and needs to be addressed. I feel confident in it, also because two of the main core devs have already reviewed and have signaled a go

that’s true... but my complexity was also more referring to alex’s adding scripting on top

Alex M - clockwork20:09:42 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

carstennn

that’s true... but my complexity was also more referring to alex’s adding scripting on top

thats totally different...just mentioned how they could work together

Alex M - clockwork20:09:51 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

but its not security related

Hairy Canary20:09:58 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

i really like that idea

...me too... like..

Carsten20:11:56 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

thats totally different...just mentioned how they could work together

goddamnit guys :) i was joking

Alex M - clockwork20:12:04 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sorry :P

Carsten20:12:52 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

anyway sounds good

Crypto Kong20:13:08 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

lol

JonnyB22:57:57 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cryptokong123

Then it should be managed properly with a low fixed call price instead of setting target ratios. It should be managed by people without the appearance of a confilct of interest.

Omo (open market operations) while needed for liquidity should be transparent with exact rules of how they operate. Otherwise there will always be a conflict of interests with the party operating them.

JonnyB23:37:27 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Also, it makes no sense that bitcny force settlement offset is 5% when bitusd is 1%

Hairy Canary23:38:45 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

funkit

its puff puf pass dude... not puff relight puff relight...

Hairy Canary23:39:17 - 11 Aug 2018 [UTC]

...looks like he learned from Bill Clinton (' ..

David01:49:23 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Hi guys , i have a question, what is CryptoBridge?

David01:54:18 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Opengislab

Hi guys , i have a question, what is CryptoBridge?

because, whe i open CryptoBridge, appear Update available beta 0.9.4 and when I click on the ad, it opens the bitshare page, and I already have updated bitshare to its latest version

funkit02:11:16 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Cryptobridge is an alternative front end to the bitshares network. You can use their client or the reference client, it is almost the same. The reference gives a wider selection of assets.

Kishan Suthar05:39:02 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Hello

Kishan Suthar05:39:11 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

https://casinoroyale.bet/ref/cfbfc3031

Rased08:37:02 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

hello everyone

Rased08:37:02 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Rased08:37:07 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

how are you all

Rased08:37:08 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Rased08:38:13 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

can anyone tell me how to build a DEX ? like : https://openledger.io or https://market.rudex.org i know both is bitshares platform based

R08:42:21 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

himel2018

can anyone tell me how to build a DEX ? like : https://openledger.io or https://market.rudex.org i know both is bitshares platform based

There's relevant exchange / gateway setup guides in the bitshares docs

Rased08:48:11 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

if possible pls share with me right doc link..

R08:53:13 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

himel2018

if possible pls share with me right doc link..

A quick Google away : http://docs.bitshares.org/integration/exchanges/ https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/wiki/Gateway-Integration-Requirements

Ronny Boesing09:42:30 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

himel2018

can anyone tell me how to build a DEX ? like : https://openledger.io or https://market.rudex.org i know both is bitshares platform based

I suggest a white label solution https://dex.openledger.io/white-label-solution/

Rased09:48:08 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

ok thanks

Thule 36909:54:27 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

ronnyb

I suggest a white label solution https://dex.openledger.io/white-label-solution/

80% of bitshares fee what about fee's from external assets like OL or gdex ?

Ronny Boesing09:56:25 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

80% of bitshares fee what about fee's from external assets like OL or gdex ?

It depends on customized solution

You should probably read this for yourself first before listening to excuses: http://telegra.ph/HAT-EXCHANGE-Formely-HawalaToday-HAT-07-2510:12:25 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Mak | BlackHeart11:45:04 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Hello. Can I talk with a Admin in DM ? I have a Proposal that you might find interesting :)

Sara12:26:43 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thinking about investing in market coins, but it is wrong to invest in coins on the market because all the coins fall due to each other. invest in new coinlere right.

fav12:27:34 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Bangzi12:32:03 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

favdesu

1. Can you approve BitsharesTalk account "guoan"? 2. Is that possible to give ripplexiaoshan (aka committee member Jademont) , the board moderator in Chinese sub forum the right to approve new account registration and so the Chinese can contact him for account approval?

Thule 36913:12:11 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

got a question somebody created a bitasset (based on a currency) with very low max supply. It is possible to increase that max supply without knowing that person ?

Alex M - clockwork13:12:53 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

got a question somebody created a bitasset (based on a currency) with very low max supply. It is possible to increase that max supply without knowing that person ?

no...has to be done by asset owner

Thule 36913:17:33 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

somebody maybe knows who yip is or how to contact him

Stefan Schießl13:19:09 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

somebody maybe knows who yip is or how to contact him

That account likes to create scamcoins iirc

Alex M - clockwork13:19:25 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

hahha

Alex M - clockwork13:19:26 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

yeah

Alex M - clockwork13:19:29 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

yip is a scammer

Thule 36913:19:48 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

so bitasset bitrupee will be forever taken by this scammer/

Alex M - clockwork13:19:49 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

or at best

Alex M - clockwork13:19:53 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

a namescammer

Alex M - clockwork13:19:56 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

namesquatter

Alex M - clockwork13:20:00 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Alex M - clockwork13:20:12 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

bitassets dont have the bit prefix

Alex M - clockwork13:20:23 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

i mean committee tones

Alex M - clockwork13:20:27 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

ones *

Alex M - clockwork13:20:46 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

it's added in front iff an asset is committee owned

Thule 36913:21:21 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

So is it possible to create the bitasset Ruppe is this is already taken by yip ? https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/asset/RUPEE

Alex M - clockwork13:21:38 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

the correct one woudl be IDR

Alex M - clockwork13:21:41 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

bitIDR

Alex M - clockwork13:22:02 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thule 369

So is it possible to create the bitasset Ruppe ifthis is already taken by yip ? https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/asset/RUPEE

ah no...i thought he'd registered bitrupee

Alex M - clockwork13:22:47 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

also registered by yip

Thule 36913:23:10 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

IDR has been also registered by him

Crypto Cartii18:38:38 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Is there someone named Michael Taggart involved?

Stefan Schießl18:46:32 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cryptocartii

Is there someone named Michael Taggart involved?

Involved where?

Crypto Cartii18:48:44 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

This project

Stefan Schießl18:50:21 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

cryptocartii

This project

Yes, he is involved, mostly with Quintric right now @quintric

Techno Comanche19:39:04 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

HEyHeyHey HEY!

Techno Comanche19:39:14 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Wassa WassUP?

Techno Comanche19:39:25 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

How to deposit BCC???

Valera Cogut19:40:43 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

this channel is only for BitShares DEX discussion !

Valera Cogut19:40:59 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

look title, rules, ...

Hairy Canary19:42:12 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

%%%$$$***I think a phony Digital Lucifer has just tried to pm me... no user name, no murda_ra

Techno Comanche19:42:25 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I wanna deposit BCC on bitshares DEx

Hairy Canary19:42:44 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

%%%$$$***I think a phony Digital Lucifer has just tried to pm me... no user name, no murda_ra

Techno Comanche19:42:50 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/asset/BCC

Hairy Canary19:44:16 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

and when I tried to post a warning here about an imposter DL..it was immediately deleted!!

Hairy Canary19:44:22 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

%%%$$$***I think a phony Digital Lucifer has just tried to pm me... no user name, no murda_ra

Hairy Canary19:44:47 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

happened again!

Valera Cogut19:45:06 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

hairycanary

and when I tried to post a warning here about an imposter DL..it was immediately deleted!!

because you don't have permissions to post links, images, etc

Hairy Canary19:45:06 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

watch this:

Valera Cogut19:45:10 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

you're not admin

Valera Cogut19:45:23 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

you cannot post everything you want here

Valera Cogut19:45:34 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

you need to have permissions for those actions from your side

Hairy Canary19:45:48 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I know but what i am sayin is an imposter DL has contacted me...

Digital Lucife®19:46:24 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Hello

Hairy Canary19:46:24 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Yes?

Digital Lucife®19:46:25 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Admin from bitshares you can make up to 50% of your investment with us

Hairy Canary19:46:25 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

How?

Digital Lucife®19:46:26 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

We have a new platform form BTC

Stefan Schießl19:46:41 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

hairycanary

I know but what i am sayin is an imposter DL has contacted me...

You can't add a link to a member here? That's strange

Hairy Canary19:46:54 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

i reported it as spam...

Valera Cogut19:47:12 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

hairycanary

i reported it as spam...

👍

Hairy Canary19:47:18 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Iwill forward to you Steffan the short pm

Stefan Schießl19:47:28 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Ok good, that should take care of it. Happens quite regularly depending how active you are

Valera Cogut19:47:35 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

link to a member is also link, bot removes such links immediately too

Hairy Canary19:48:37 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

i pm you the short convo.... offering me a way to get BTC...starts with I am admin...etc

Stefan Schießl19:48:56 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

@valeracogut it does?

Stefan Schießl19:49:09 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

I guess I'm already allowed 😁

Hairy Canary19:49:19 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

K...but i havesucceded in pm steffan the thread with the fake DL...

Valera Cogut19:49:21 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

you have permissions @sschiessl 😊

Valera Cogut19:49:59 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

for example I cannot post links to members too in another channel like RuDEX for example 😊

Harvey Z20:46:29 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

With BitShares your trades execute in seconds, just like any centralized website interface. Unlike centralized exchanges there can be no high frequency trading, front running, or hidden orders. This puts all traders on a level playing field. On Wall Street traders go to great length to get as physically close to the exchange as possible because their trading bots are making decisions so fast that the speed of light becomes a real limitation. A decentralized exchange is location neutral and gives everyone equal opportunity.

Harvey Z20:46:35 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

BM said this

Harvey Z20:46:58 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

but why Bitshare has no front running, high frequency trading and hidden orders?

Harvey Z20:47:10 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

you can not use quantum trading?

杰项

杰项20:48:39 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

🤣

Imking20:48:46 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Hey guys

杰项

杰项20:49:04 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

😀

Imking20:49:20 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Are there any mangers on hand that wills start to promote our platform ?

Imking20:49:43 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Is there a management team in place to promote BTS ?

Imking20:49:57 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Or am I missing a point ?

Stefan Schießl20:54:43 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

harveyzhou2525

but why Bitshare has no front running, high frequency trading and hidden orders?

Blocks are every 3 seconds, all incoming operations in that frame get processed, whereas the order of processing is not fixed. If you control a block producer you could implement front running in that 3 second window

Alex M - clockwork21:02:04 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

actually processing order is consensus based too i think

Stefan Schießl21:04:38 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

clockworkgr

actually processing order is consensus based too i think

Order is arbitraty and could be manipulated. With the p2p you also wouldn't know who actually sent first. Only who arrived at witness first

Alex M - clockwork21:05:12 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

sschiessl

Order is arbitraty and could be manipulated. With the p2p you also wouldn't know who actually sent first. Only who arrived at witness first

hmmm...i remember reading there were some rules

Alex M - clockwork21:05:17 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

maybe im wrong

Harvey Z21:21:12 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Thank You for the answer

Harvey Z21:21:51 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

So as a summary, you need to wait 3 seconds, and hence you cannot do high frequency trading

Harvey Z21:22:35 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

And block is generated based on consensus, and hence you cannot have hidden orders

funkit21:22:44 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Imking

Are there any mangers on hand that wills start to promote our platform ?

No managers, only elected public spokespersons, workers and delegates.

funkit21:24:52 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

TechnoComanche

How to deposit BCC???

I don't think that's possible.

Tyszkiewicz21:32:56 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

funkit

I don't think that's possible.

Open.bcc wet dream

funkit21:35:08 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

There is a name spoof bcc. Not a very wet one. Still a dream.

Grace Tracy22:01:25 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

funkit

I don't think that's possible.

Possible

Imking22:24:48 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

funkit

No managers, only elected public spokespersons, workers and delegates.

Thank u

Imking22:26:57 - 12 Aug 2018 [UTC]

What is up with this block.one? 1 Billion USD is allot of coin

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JakeThePanda03:16:26 - 13 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Just bought back all the Bitshares I sold back in 2014. Glad to be back.

bemnie🥀03:16:56 - 13 Aug 2018 [UTC]

Chgji

عع

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