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rektkid11:37:57 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Use the legacy option
thanks!
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Salsabilla11:38:30 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Hello everyone
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Christian Olsen12:06:24 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
we need to add REAL value to BTS so it can function better as collateral
Could we make it so that BTS can only be bought or sold with Quint?
But that would probably make listing BTS on other exchanges more diffecult
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Christian Olsen12:13:00 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
as I said....vicious cycle....BTS needs to have value OUTSIDE the stablecoin function in order to be valid as collateral....can't really say BTS is valid collateral simply because it is used as collateral....
Agree
Speculation on speculation
Get really volatile
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Crypto Kong12:13:51 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Christian Olsen
Could we make it so that BTS can only be bought or sold with Quint?
But that would probably make listing BTS on other exchanges more diffecult
You cant stop people from buying or selling an asset for another asset...
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Alex M - clockwork12:14:09 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
You cant stop people from buying or selling an asset for another asset...
well you can
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Alex M - clockwork12:14:14 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
blacklists/whitelists
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Alex M - clockwork12:14:19 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
but probably not a good idea
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Crypto Kong12:14:36 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
You still cant stop me from selling the account to my freind
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Christian Olsen12:14:39 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Not even with a worker for it
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Christian Olsen12:15:00 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
blacklists/whitelists
Thats the biggest issue i see
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R12:15:05 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
You still cant stop me from selling the account to my friend
Can't stop me from wrapping it in an mpa to evade blacklists ;D
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Crypto Kong12:15:10 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
But yeah... not a good idea
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Crypto Kong12:15:17 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Can't stop me from wrapping it in an mpa to evade blacklists ;D
Lol
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Christian Olsen12:15:22 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
But u have the ultimate collateral
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Crypto Kong12:15:27 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
YOU WILL NOT STOP US
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Crypto Kong12:15:31 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Haha
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Crypto Kong12:15:50 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Christian Olsen
But u have the ultimate collateral
In your opinion
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R12:15:56 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Christian Olsen
But u have the ultimate collateral
Yeah, if you don't mind running a fractional reserve by reissuing the same asset again
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Christian Olsen12:16:02 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Yes 🙂
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Crypto Kong12:16:03 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Im a fan of quint but others might not agree
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Christian Olsen12:16:21 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Ur right
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Crypto Kong12:17:33 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
To add real value to BTS means increasing demand which means finding more use cases
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Christian Olsen12:17:42 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
But its traded World wide so thats easier to sell to noobie
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Christian Olsen12:17:55 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Ok
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Crypto Kong12:18:11 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
People need more reasons to buy BTS
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Stefan12:18:22 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Would be also interesting to see how much the worker proposals have diluted the actively traded part of BTS supply
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Crypto Kong12:18:50 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Well they certainly suppress the price to an extent
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Alex M - clockwork12:18:59 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Would be also interesting to see how much the worker proposals have diluted the actively traded part of BTS supply
meh
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Stefan12:19:02 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Well they certainly suppress the price to an extent
Yes, but I like numbers :)
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Alex M - clockwork12:19:07 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
we started at 2.6b
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Crypto Kong12:19:14 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
😁
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Alex M - clockwork12:19:19 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
we are at 2.677 after like 3 years
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Alex M - clockwork12:19:37 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
not seriosu inflation imho
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Stefan12:19:41 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
we started at 2.6b
Yes. And how much is actually in circulation?
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Stefan12:20:05 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Worker Proposal payout get actively traded. A long term hodler of BTS doesn't influence the price (e.g. Fabian)
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Christian Olsen12:20:19 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Thats the Main thing i keep running into is people dont believe its Worth its just code
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Alex M - clockwork12:20:31 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Worker Proposal payout get actively traded. A long term hodler of BTS doesn't influence the price (e.g. Fabian)
yeah but that doesnt relaly matter
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Alex M - clockwork12:20:38 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
its a perception thing
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Alex M - clockwork12:20:51 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
and bts infflation has been 3% over 3 years
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Alex M - clockwork12:21:03 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
its minimal
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Alex M - clockwork12:21:19 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
even ignoring long term holders
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Stefan12:21:26 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Hm. Need an ES query how much supply hasn't moved the last year
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Alex M - clockwork12:21:35 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
well
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R12:21:39 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Pretty much negligible at 1‰/yr
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Alex M - clockwork12:21:39 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
will be less than 3%
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R12:21:45 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
/yr
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Alex M - clockwork12:21:47 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
if we add those
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Alex M - clockwork12:21:50 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
hell
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Alex M - clockwork12:22:03 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
there's probably a lot of supply in genesis accounts that havent been claimed
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R12:22:40 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
there's probably a lot of supply in genesis accounts that havent been claimed
Mandatory update to block their claim now? 😆
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Alex M - clockwork12:22:41 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
that might raise it a bit
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Stefan12:23:19 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
You can talk about 2.6b all you want, but the actively traded supply is the one that influences the price. I'm very much pro worker proposals, but the numbers would be interesting nevertheless
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R12:24:07 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Wp are massively beneficial, if we want to offset their output then we aught to increase the fees to reflect the lower bts price
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R12:24:36 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Attract btc whales with a fee market lol
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Stefan12:24:36 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Wp are massively beneficial, if we want to offset their output then we aught to increase the fees to reflect the lower bts price
Not suggesting any changes, wanna-be data kraken :)
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Alex M - clockwork12:27:11 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Wp are massively beneficial, if we want to offset their output then we aught to increase the fees to reflect the lower bts price
soon (tm)
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Alex M - clockwork12:27:27 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Wp are massively beneficial, if we want to offset their output then we aught to increase the fees to reflect the lower bts price
did you seen my proposal yet?
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Alex M - clockwork12:27:58 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://github.com/bitshares/committee-tools/pull/1
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Permie12:32:13 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
Not suggesting any changes, wanna-be data kraken with curiousity :)
More data is always a good thing
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R12:47:34 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
https://github.com/bitshares/committee-tools/pull/1
They look good, except 3 char long assets are cheaper than 4? :S
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Stefan12:49:20 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
https://github.com/bitshares/committee-tools/pull/1
My 2 cents given
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R12:50:43 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
It's funny that looking back, when we've increased the fees it's been followed by a rise in bts price, and when we decrease fees the opposite. If after the fees increase bts rises we've got correlation, baby! Woo fee market! :P
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Alex M - clockwork12:52:19 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
lol
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Thule14:20:51 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
essentially you are suggesting we treat bitAssets as algorithmic stablecoins (their valued based only on supply/demand)
Agree on that.Another point which is increasing that problem are the big bitasset holders which take massivly liquidity away from market which you feel in bigger downtrends
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Alex M - clockwork14:22:31 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
They look good, except 3 char long assets are cheaper than 4? :S
has been fixed
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R14:27:22 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
has been fixed
Nice one 👍
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Mathew14:51:01 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Also discussing how a properly managed market operation could unpeg BTS price from BTC
Agree with this - would it need to be coordinated across exchanges or would doing it on the DEX be enough to drag everything else up...?
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RØÇKY14:52:50 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
can anybody help me
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RØÇKY14:52:58 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
i am new to group
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RØÇKY14:53:07 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
i need these shares
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Stefan14:53:31 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
rocky5135
i need these shares
wallet.bitshares.org
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Crypto Kong14:55:21 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
matle85
Agree with this - would it need to be coordinated across exchanges or would doing it on the DEX be enough to drag everything else up...?
Dex would be best place really
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RØÇKY14:55:46 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
i had 350xmd is anything helpful
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RØÇKY14:55:54 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
how can i use
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Mathew15:00:31 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Dex would be best place really
Agree it's the best place - is it enough on its own do you think?
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Crypto Kong15:02:56 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
If enough people with enough funds get involved yes
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Crypto Kong15:04:16 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
The trick is providing profitable strategies that everyone wants to get involved in
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Crypto Kong15:04:31 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Not as easy as it sounds
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RØÇKY15:04:50 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
anybody help me i had 350xmd and 100krc
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RØÇKY15:05:02 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
i dont know how to use
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R15:09:16 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
rocky5135
anybody help me i had 350xmd and 100krc
Are either assets on the BTS DEX?
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RØÇKY15:09:43 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
how to use them
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RØÇKY15:09:53 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
how to check
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R15:18:11 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
rocky5135
how to use them
google it, doesn't sound like a Bitshares related thing?
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Andrea Kovačić15:21:07 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
Not as easy as it sounds
Gotta admit that the dex looks like it was left behind in the second world war
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JonnyB15:24:27 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
anyone been using rudex tradebot?
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R15:25:09 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Andrea Kovačić
Gotta admit that the dex looks like it was left behind in the second world war
Mate, if you've got constructive criticism take it to github
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Thule15:30:40 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
According to Alexa 7.8% of bitshares.org traffic comes from nigeria.
Any idea why that number is so high from that country and if its even realistic?
AK
Andrea Kovačić15:32:17 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
Mate, if you've got constructive criticism take it to github
Right, im not constru tive thats why im learning python
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Andrea Kovačić15:32:42 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Dnt get offended 😃
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Alex M - clockwork15:37:39 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
thuleeee
According to Alexa 7.8% of bitshares.org traffic comes from nigeria.
Any idea why that number is so high from that country and if its even realistic?
Yensesa maybe? @johnr
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Thule15:39:38 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
Yensesa maybe? @john_robert
could be the reason
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Alex M - clockwork15:40:02 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I know they do a lot...but no idea what the adoption is like
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Alex M - clockwork15:40:10 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
john knows more probably
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RØÇKY15:47:28 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://www.coinbase.com/join/5c0a95403c714614a6e93a3f
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RØÇKY15:48:31 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://www.coinbase.com/join/5c0a95403c714614a6e93a3f
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Crypto Kong17:16:37 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
thuleeee
According to Alexa 7.8% of bitshares.org traffic comes from nigeria.
Any idea why that number is so high from that country and if its even realistic?
bitshares is the exchange of choice for nigerian princes
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Crypto Kong17:17:09 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I know this because one emailed me offering to invest some of my money for me with good return, it was hard to turn down
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Crypto Kong17:24:18 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://www.theblockcrypto.com/tiny/youtube-drives-the-most-traffic-to-cryptocurrency-exchanges/
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Techno Comanche18:46:16 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://twitter.com/KingofAtroPix/status/1071036716293742592
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Fuzzy19:09:47 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
I know this because one emailed me offering to invest some of my money for me with good return, it was hard to turn down
😂
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Christian Olsen19:10:30 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Cryptokong123
I know this because one emailed me offering to invest some of my money for me with good return, it was hard to turn down
Lol
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Gustav Olly08:38:33 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Did anybody see that collateral bid orders executed?
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Stefan08:40:40 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Crypto_owwn
Did anybody see that collateral bid orders executed?
Only on revival
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Daniel Schwarz (liondani)08:55:39 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
On the gui for bitCNY we should change the "Feed Price" >>> "Fixed Price" 😂
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Stefan08:56:28 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
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On the gui for bitCNY we should change the "Feed Price" >>> "Fixed Price" 😂
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JonnyB11:22:21 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
liondani
On the gui for bitCNY we should change the "Feed Price" >>> "Fixed Price" 😂
Well that is the truth
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JonnyB11:24:50 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
New version of Microsoft edge to be based on Chromium. Good news for bitshares as our GUI is only designed for Chrome.
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Alex M - clockwork11:40:33 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
And ffox
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Alex M - clockwork11:40:48 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
And edge when edge is not being weird
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Alex M - clockwork11:41:03 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Although admittedly safari is a worse offender these days
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Stefan11:42:50 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
We are working on edge compatibility, and it's horrible. I suppose we can stop that now..
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JonnyB11:44:28 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
clockworkgr
And ffox
Ffox based on Chromium?
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JonnyB11:45:18 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
We are working on edge compatibility, and it's horrible. I suppose we can stop that now..
Yeah stop it. They only 5% of the browser market anyway
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JonnyB11:46:08 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Hopefully safari becomes Chromium based aswell
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JonnyB11:46:41 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Chrome on iPad and Android is completely different though I believe
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Alex M - clockwork11:48:22 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Mylimbsarelong
Ffox based on Chromium?
Continuing on "only designed for..."
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George (Bitspark)12:08:38 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Brave is based on chromium now and its my daily ride, working fine with Bitshares-UI
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R12:21:47 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
sschiessl
We are working on edge compatibility, and it's horrible. I suppose we can stop that now..
Isn't edge migrating to chromium soon?
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George Wu12:28:10 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Hello everyone Proposal project BitsharesMobileApp Android v1.2 released. GooglePlay address: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.btspp.app Welcome experience.
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Daniel Schwarz (liondani)12:29:22 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
George_Bitspark
Brave is based on chromium now and its my daily ride, working fine with Bitshares-UI
me2, best browser so far and soon paid with BAT tokens for watching ads if youi remove the integrated "adblocker" ;)
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George Wu12:29:56 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.btspp.app
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Daniel Schwarz (liondani)12:33:08 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
For crypto enthusiast, brave should be the only option.
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R12:39:00 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
liondani
For crypto enthusiast, brave should be the only option.
yeah no, I'll take zero adverts thanks 👍
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Daniel Schwarz (liondani)12:42:28 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
yeah no, I'll take zero adverts thanks 👍
That's default for brave. Still your best option and TOR suppport etc.
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R12:42:44 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
liondani
That's default for brave. Still your best option and TOR suppport etc.
Thanks but no thanks
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Daniel Schwarz (liondani)12:42:59 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
What are you using?
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Daniel Schwarz (liondani)12:43:28 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
must be something that comes from future
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George (Bitspark)12:54:49 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
cmmob
yeah no, I'll take zero adverts thanks 👍
Thats the whole point of brave, all scripts and ads are blocked by default, even better than adblocker extensions
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Daniel Schwarz (liondani)13:02:59 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
George_Bitspark
Thats the whole point of brave, all scripts and ads are blocked by default, even better than adblocker extensions
I bet 1000 bts you will not convince him. But I am glad he tried bts in past 😄
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R13:04:11 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
could have sworn this was the BTS channel not brave spam 🤦♂️
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Daniel Schwarz (liondani)13:06:52 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
lol
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Daniel Schwarz (liondani)13:07:18 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
sorry
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Daniel Schwarz (liondani)13:08:53 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
good one ^^^
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fav14:07:45 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Edgy conversation here
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fav14:07:53 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
😏
TF
Thomas Freedman14:53:00 - 08 Dec 2018 [UTC]
George_Bitspark
Thats the whole point of brave, all scripts and ads are blocked by default, even better than adblocker extensions
I tried brave a couple of months ago and found it horrible.
How can bitshares gui work with brave if it disables scripts, which to ne says disables javascript? Is there some kind of distinction between react, node etc which uses js as basis VS code from